freerange chicken

[icelandicbreadthief]

its freerange so automatically people think it's had a good life. but has it? im just curious to know what people know about it. do theyre beaks still get burnt and clipped?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...2964130308142#

id watch this. its a documentary on the reliance we have on animals

[katralla]

Not really that bothered whether what I eat is freerange or not, it's price I go on.

[icelandicbreadthief]

do you say that after watching that documentary or is it just a view which youv taken without actually looking what goes on??

[katralla]

I don't need to watch a documentary about chickens to know that I don't care about the conditions they live or die in compared to the hole that buying one might make in my pocket.

[icelandicbreadthief]

its not just about chickens..its about the reliance on animals in general. i think its ignorant for people to not care about where their meat/clothes come from regardless of the fact you may not change the way you shop.

[greenday88]

I always by free range eggs, meat I am slightly more guilty of maybe not buying free range, but on a student budget I do what I can afford. When I get a job I'll definately get free range 100% of the time.

You mean to say that pictures and the reality of chickens sitting in cages/barns and ill from sitting in their own crap and not being able to walk is less important than price? kind of a shame...

[Hellfire]

Don't give a shit where it is from just as long as I can feed my family.

[kangoo]

People who purchase eggs/meat on price rather than animal welfare make me fucking sick

[Amira]

Originally Posted by kangoo

People who purchase eggs/meat on price rather than animal welfare make me fucking sick

Not everyone has the luxury of being able to care, compared to most people here...we are fairly well off, but i still cant justify spending £10+ on a chicken (which is what free range costs here)! I try to buy as much organic/free range/ fair trade as i can, but to be brutally honest, if i had to buy either free range or fair trade i would go for the fair trade a million times. I'd prefer making a human life better before an animals.

[kangoo]

Originally Posted by Amira

Not everyone has the luxury of being able to care, compared to most people here...we are fairly well off, but i still cant justify spending £10+ on a chicken (which is what free range costs here)! I try to buy as much organic/free range/ fair trade as i can, but to be brutally honest, if i had to buy either free range or fair trade i would go for the fair trade a million times. I'd prefer making a human life better before an animals.

Actually I was a student with an income of less than £4k a year and I never stooped so low as to buy battery farm eggs. Then I was working earning less than minimum wage, if I couldn't afford free range then I didn't buy.

Now I earn £15k which is hardly a massive income, and I still consider eggs to be a luxury not a right.

You can't justify £10 on a chicken, I can't justify animal cruelty.

[Amira]

But this is where the food industry needs to change, people on higher income brackets need to start using their money to force the industry to change. Free range, organic and fair trade to me should be a standard and battery chickens/eggs/non organic produce should be budget items for people who really can't afford anything else. Unfortunnately because people aren't exercising the right to influence, prices are still high and will continue to remain high until there is more education about the harmful effects of hormones, pesticides, chemicals added to food and until people really begin to care about millions of people being exploited and animals being mistreated.

But unfortunately, people care more about how little they spend on food rather than its effects on their bodies or how it affects others.

[kangoo]

Originally Posted by Amira

But this is where the food industry needs to change, people on higher income brackets need to start using their money to force the industry to change. Free range, organic and fair trade to me should be a standard and battery chickens/eggs/non organic produce should be budget items for people who really can't afford anything else. Unfortunnately because people aren't exercising the right to influence, prices are still high and will continue to remain high until there is more education about the harmful effects of hormones, pesticides, chemicals added to food and until people really begin to care about millions of people being exploited and animals being mistreated.

But unfortunately, people care more about how little they spend on food rather than its effects on their bodies or how it affects others.

Yep, as shown by this thread there are some nasty people who don't give a fuck about animal welfare and are quite happy to support what I can only describe as disgusting practices to save a couple of quid on their shopping, probably so they can afford the luxury of throwing away a third of their food shopping (a truly appauling statistic).

While people continue to be ignorant about the cruelty and suffering that allows prices to be driven down, then cheap eggs and meat will remain a 'right' which I think is wrong.

I don't think it is people on higher income brackets to make the change (although what their excuse for buying battery chickens and eggs is I would love to know), I think everybody who has a conscience need to stand up and say this isn't right, vote with your wallets and do your bit to say no to battery farming.

Even at my lowest income of less than £100 per week with no benefits (rent was £68 pw ffs) I would never buy battery eggs, I would forfit something else and make them last. I'm hardly standing here from my palace preaching at other people to change, we hardly have 2 pennies to rub together yet I am not prepared to support cruelty to animals for my own personal greed.

I have absolutley NO respect for people who buy battery chickens and eggs knowing full well the life they have had, with the option of spending a few more pennies and helping to make a difference. Even worse, people like hellfire and katralla who out and out don't give a shit about animal cruelty, I don't believe that you could have a heart. Disgusting.

[Amira]

I'm totally agree with you, but at the same time i think people with famillies have other priorities. Take me as an example, last month we had about 40pounds to last us (a family of four) two weeks, for petrol, baby milk/food, nappies and food for ourselves. At that point i really didn't care what type of eggs we bought.

[katralla]

I have a heart, for PEOPLE who I love. I buy about 50 eggs a week at the moment as they're cheap energy and quick and easy to cook for any meal at any time. I have a conscience but chickens and eggs don't enter into to, we just draw the line in a different place, I'm sure you don't care what kind of life your grass has when you mow your lawn?

[greenday88]

Originally Posted by katralla

I have a conscience but chickens and eggs don't enter into to, we just draw the line in a different place, I'm sure you don't care what kind of life your grass has when you mow your lawn?

Yeah but grass doesn't have a consience and feelings so it really doesn't matter about that... chickens do though... If plants could feel stuff, like animals, then we'd have a real problem.