I was offered this at a recent party. I've never heard of it before, and so didn't accept it before I knew what it was about. I've tried to search erowid, but not too sure how it's spelt so it's brought up various things (but the lass who offered it prenounced it as i've spelt it.)
Anybody got any information on this? They said it was a reaearch chemical, came in crystal form and she snorted a tiny amount. Said it had a very strong come up, felt very intense like your first pill for about 20 min, but then this would subside and you'ld just feel very alert (like phet or coke) and very hard to sleep on. Oh, and they bought it legally on the net. Hmm. My friend had a little and she was absalutely fucked for about half an hour then the intense comeup/'mashedness' wavered off. Said it felt like an amazing first pill.
Anybody know anything about this? Or got a chemical name for it so i can have a proper look about it? Just interested really.
Thanks very much
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22-09-2009 08:13 PM #1TheSite.org convert
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23-09-2009 05:04 AM #2
very akin to speed/mdma, crystal stuff tends to be pretty potent
treat it with caution, very moreish when sniffing, and big bombs can completely obliterate ya, ive seen some people in a state!!
comedown is pretty much non existent if you don't over do it
relatively new drug on the scene and can be dirt cheap due to it being pretty much legal, wouldn't imagine it to have much longer left tho!
google it with the correct spelling and you'll find plenty of info
05-11-2009 06:12 PM #3
i had some of this last night, its a enjoyable high, gets the blood pumping, theres some talk on bluelight.nu about how harmfull it is, i thought i took it easy last night though today i've had some minor chest pains, not nice really, same as most stimulant, best avoided really,
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12-11-2009 02:25 PM #5
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13-11-2009 02:01 PM #6
warning, severe chest pains.
16-11-2009 07:29 PM #7
yeah again i'd recommend not to underestimate this stuff, theres plenty of not so pleasant side effects if you over indulge regularly
18-11-2009 03:58 PM #8
I'm suprised to hear people say the comedowns are non-existant. Everything I've read about it (i.e. this recent article in the Observer) reports that the comedowns are the biggest turn-off about using it.
Very wise of you to think before taking - sounds like it has some nasty said effects."Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." Ernest Hemmingway
23-11-2009 08:48 PM #9
Nobody knows anything about how badly this will affect you in the long term, it's addictive, and Toxbase does not yet have any info about how to specifically treat overdose of it. I think people who say they have no comedown from it are very lucky.. it definitely can cause rough comedowns in some people, along with the standard chewed up tongue and mouth lining and loads of tooth grinding
Plenty of anecdotal info about it causing palpitations, shortness of breath and vasoconstriction leading to numb and blue limbs can be found if you have a look around the internet eg. bluelight and drugs-forum.
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02-12-2009 11:33 PM #10
bar the sore jaw/tongue etc you feel relatively fine if you don't hammer it too much
nothing compared to a proper ecstasy/mdma comedown!! or even most hangovers!
dont believe all the shite in the papers about it, ive read some plain shite in some
still be careful with it!
03-12-2009 10:26 AM #11
the chest pains put me off enough, z-'s right, if you have your mind set on taking it anyway, take as little as you can, your heart might appreciate it..
disagree on the comedown, i think they feel nasty, i would choose a pure mdma one over mephedrone anyday,
04-12-2009 05:15 PM #12
no way in hell .. id question your sources if thats the case!
04-12-2009 11:28 PM #13
Agreed with Z, part of the whole appeal is once you've got some kip you feel relatively fine again the next day!
05-12-2009 01:02 AM #14
How are young people being weaned on to industrial grade fertiliser so easily?
05-12-2009 11:17 AM #15
because its cheap and cheerful? and mdma is getting scarse?