View Full Version : Are Black People Ignored By The Media?
OoDestinyOo
27-03-2006, 06:49 PM
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LuckyStrike
27-03-2006, 06:52 PM
no, it annoys me when everything has to be turned into a race issue. apart from the obviously racially motivated ones i dont see why it has to be mentioned. its a case of one human being killing another, noone in my eyes is worth more than anyone else.
OoDestinyOo
27-03-2006, 07:15 PM
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LuckyStrike
27-03-2006, 07:17 PM
mainly because these were remarkable events, usually children brutally murdered. there are hundreds of murders every year (maybe even thousands) not all make the headlines, use some sense!
morrocan roll
27-03-2006, 07:17 PM
A group of white people who were fed up with African Americans, joined together and wished themselves away. They passed through a deep dark tunnel and emerged in sort of a twilight zone where there is an America without black people.
At first these white people breathed a sigh of relief. At last, they say, no more crime, drugs, violence and welfare. All of the blacks have gone!!
Then suddenly, reality sets in. The "NEW AMERICA" is not America at all only a barren land! There are very few crops that have flourished because the nation was built on a slave-supported system.
There are no cities with tall skyscrapers because Alexander Mils, a black man, invented the Elevator, and without it one finds great difficulty reaching high floors.
There are few if any cars because Richard Spikes, a black man, invented the Automatic Gear Shift. Joseph Gammell, also black, invented the Super Charge System for Internal Combustion Engines, and Garrett A.Morgan invented the Traffic Signals. Furthermore, one could not use the Rapid Transit System because its precursor was the electric trolley, which was invented by another black man by the name of Elbert R.Robinson.
Even if there were streets on which cars and a rapid transit system could operate, they were cluttered with paper because an African American, Charles Brooks, invented the Street Sweeper.
There were few if any newspapers, magazines and books because John Love invented the Pencil Sharpener, William Purvis invented the Fountain Pen,Lee Burridge invented the Type Writing Machine and W. A. Lovette invented the Advanced Printing Press. They were all you guessed it, black. Even if Americans could write their letters, articles and books, they would
not have been transported by mail because William Barry invented the Postmarking and Canceling Machine, William Purvis invented the Hand Stamp and Phillip Downing invented the
Letter Drop.
The lawns were brown and wilted because Joseph Smith invented the Lawn Sprinkler and John Burr the Lawn Mower. When they entered their homes, they found them to be poorly ventilated
and poorly heated. You see, Frederick Jones invented the Air Conditioner and Alice Parker the Heating Furnace.
Their homes were also dim. But of course, Lewis Latimer invented the Electric Lamp; Michael Harvey invented the Lantern and Granville T. Woods invented the Automatic Cut-off Switch. Their homes were also filthy because Thomas W. Steward invented the Mop and Lloyd P.Ray, the Dust Pan.
Their children met them at the doorbarefooted, shabby, motley and unkempt. But what could one expect? Jan E.Matzelinger invented the Shoe Lasting Machine, Walter Sammons invented the Comb,Sarah Boone invented the Ironing Board and George T. Samon invented the Clothes Dryer.
Finally, they were resigned to at least have dinner amidst all of this turmoil. But here again, the food had spoiled because another black man, John Standard, invented the refrigerator. Now, isn't that something? What would this world be like without the
contributions of Black people?
Blagsta
27-03-2006, 07:40 PM
The death of Damiola Taylor was not racially motivated........there are many reports of white victims to murder, they fill the pages of the newspapers everyday...Sally Ann Bowman, Tom ap Rhys Pryce, Milly Dowler, Richard Whelan, Holly and Jessica, Jamie Bulger etc
I can tell what your agenda is straight away
OoDestinyOo
27-03-2006, 07:45 PM
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Man Of Kent
28-03-2006, 08:14 PM
Probably worth pointing out the ethnic make up of the UK at this point FFS
Teh_Gerbil
28-03-2006, 08:38 PM
Probably worth pointing out the ethnic make up of the UK at this point FFS
:lol: A bit too late I see. I thought this topic was about to die.
Man Of Kent
28-03-2006, 08:43 PM
Well, I was busy yesterday and someone had to say it...
Namaste
29-03-2006, 12:00 AM
mainly because these were remarkable events, usually children brutally murdered. there are hundreds of murders every year (maybe even thousands) not all make the headlines, use some sense!
Or mainly because they were mostly white, middle class attractive kids.
Guest
29-03-2006, 09:20 AM
If you go in a countries were black people are in majority, do you see more black victims on TV or white victims?
OoDestinyOo
29-03-2006, 09:37 AM
http://www.blackbritain.co.uk/columnists/details.aspx?i=2144318231&c=UK&h=Police+Racism+v+Media+Racism%3F
Guest
29-03-2006, 10:20 AM
If there was not a single black people ever covered by the media then I would agree they are racist, but frankly now it feel like if the amount of black people or others is not the same amount of white people it is racism...
If you look in France, if a non-muslim guy get beat up by a band of muslim no one talks about it, but if a muslim get beat up by just one non-muslim guy, then you have people out in the street complaining and it appear in the media
At the end of the day who cares, Media are crap and will always be, I think the main goal is to have equality in real life and not on TV and others.
But now sometimes it seems more like black people and other should be threated better than white people even if the country is mainly white.
Also you based yourself on London statistics which is not England at all!
And you argue only about black people equality with white people, if you want to argue with equality then maybe you should talk as well about the chinese, japanese, arabs and others.
wheresmyplacebo
29-03-2006, 10:22 AM
muslims arent a race....
Guest
29-03-2006, 10:24 AM
muslims arent a race....
Yeah I know, my mistake, I meant arabic people or something...
SuzyCreamcheese
29-03-2006, 10:30 AM
muslims arent a race....
yeah but its still generally called racism when its a discrimination against a religious group.
Voodoo Ray
29-03-2006, 10:35 AM
There’s plenty of murders and assaults across the UK all the time – if one’s going to capture the popular imagination and become major national news, it’s got to be either especially horrific, happen on a very slow news day, or have something else unusual about it - like involve a white middle-class victim somewhere where you wouldn’t expect it.
I suppose it’s got something to do with the fact that this is largely a country of suburban, curtain-twitching Daily Mail readers who are a lot more horrified when someone like them is a victim of violent crime – I don’t think Abigail Witchalls would have been in the news much if she’d been stabbed in front of a Kwik Save in Birkenhead rather than in a leafy country lane in Surrey.
wheresmyplacebo
29-03-2006, 10:36 AM
yeah but its still generally called racism when its a discrimination against a religious group.
yeh it's racism im not allowed to practice wearing a giant plushie to work :rolleyes:
Walkindude
29-03-2006, 11:06 AM
I don't think so.
I thinkt here is equal coverage both ways. I think its the crime itself that gets the attention.
Like those 2 girls in birmingham that were shot in a drive by, I think thats coz it was a drive by rather then them being black and cases of child abudutcion and murder or mother sbign brutally stabbed and such, its coz of the crime itself, not that they are white, pretty or middle class.
Guest
29-03-2006, 11:09 AM
I thinkt here is equal coverage both ways. I think its the crime itself that gets the attention.
Yep media tend to take the juiciest story they can find and I don't tink they care much aout victims origin as long as their story is juicy.
Voodoo Ray
29-03-2006, 11:09 AM
I think that particular crime probably got the coverage it did because the victims were women and so it was relatively unusual - same as the drive-by shooting of that 14-year-old girl in Nottingham.
Walkindude
29-03-2006, 11:13 AM
yeah, it goes on the juice of the story. The type of crime combined with the age usually.
So young people as vitcims of brutal cirmes get coverage and then it depends on what else is shocking, so you will get pensioners hthat have been brutally murdered making the news or people that die defending their home from an intruder, tho that can be any age, its the criem that counts there.
Disillusioned
29-03-2006, 11:13 AM
In defence of the Daily Mail - although perhaps not its readers the paper was the first to champion the case of Stephen Lawrence, it ran a front page with the accused pictured calling them murderers and inviting them to sue if the Mail was wrong.
katchika
29-03-2006, 11:16 AM
Quite a fair amount of murders where the victim is black are young men involved in guns and drugs. There are even special police teams such as Trident set up to tackle black on black crime.
They are not intrinsically newsworthy as they are not especially unusual. However, look at the case of Letisha Shakespeare and Charlene Ellis, they were two girls caught up in gang stuff. Their murders got huge coverage in the media, because it was newsworthy, unusual, and they were innocent. One drug dealer shooting dead another one doesn’t tend to upset society too much, apart from the victim’s family.
Wha Nerisha Sharpe, a black soldier shot dead while on leave. That case was covered a lot by the press.
Also, once someone has been arrested, there are laws restricting what the media can publish about court cases.
It’s not as simple as just crying racism.
Walkindude
29-03-2006, 11:21 AM
I agree with that PussyKatty.
Blagsta
29-03-2006, 12:51 PM
There’s plenty of murders and assaults across the UK all the time – if one’s going to capture the popular imagination and become major national news, it’s got to be either especially horrific, happen on a very slow news day, or have something else unusual about it - like involve a white middle-class victim somewhere where you wouldn’t expect it.
I suppose it’s got something to do with the fact that this is largely a country of suburban, curtain-twitching Daily Mail readers who are a lot more horrified when someone like them is a victim of violent crime – I don’t think Abigail Witchalls would have been in the news much if she’d been stabbed in front of a Kwik Save in Birkenhead rather than in a leafy country lane in Surrey.
Yep, its definitely more of a class thing than a race thing.
Blagsta
29-03-2006, 12:53 PM
yeah, it goes on the juice of the story. The type of crime combined with the age usually.
So young people as vitcims of brutal cirmes get coverage and then it depends on what else is shocking, so you will get pensioners hthat have been brutally murdered making the news or people that die defending their home from an intruder, tho that can be any age, its the criem that counts there.
Shootings are a fairly regular occurence here in south London. Hardly any make national news.
OoDestinyOo
29-03-2006, 04:57 PM
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stargalaxy
29-03-2006, 05:03 PM
No, I don't accept that black people are ignored by the media. There are more blacks in more prominent jobs now for example, in the public and private sectors, and they do receive coverage. I suspect most of the media simply tries to reflect society. They don't always get it right, though.
Disillusioned
29-03-2006, 05:13 PM
Rochelle Holness was a black teenager who was cut up into pieces and left in a bag after going to a phone box to make a call ......THE DAILY MAIL did not cover this at all.........isnt this case unusual?
It would be I suppose if you weren’t talking bollocks.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=363953&in_page_id=1770
stargalaxy
29-03-2006, 05:16 PM
It would be I suppose if you weren’t talking bollocks.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=363953&in_page_id=1770 I think all the national newspapers covered this. If any of them didn't, it would definitely invite questions asking why.
OoDestinyOo
29-03-2006, 05:28 PM
http://www.blink.org.uk/pdescription.asp?key=9514&grp=55&cat=199
Voodoo Ray
29-03-2006, 05:34 PM
The Holness case got less coverage than the Bowman one for a few reasons - but I reckon an important one is that there was an arrest made just about immediately in the Holness case, whereas the Bowman killer remains on the loose.
Yerascrote
29-03-2006, 05:34 PM
sorry............my mistake it was not THE DAILY MAIL who didnT cover it, it was The Daily Telegraph,
http://www.blink.org.uk/pdescription.asp?key=9514&grp=55&cat=199
Ok...so what? What is your point? Why don't you just come out and say what you want to say.
stargalaxy
29-03-2006, 05:35 PM
sorry............my mistake it was not THE DAILY MAIL who didnT cover it, it was The Daily Telegraph,
http://www.blink.org.uk/pdescription.asp?key=9514&grp=55&cat=199 If it concerns you so much, why don't you get in touch with the Telegraph newspapers and ask them why they didn't print it?
Disillusioned
29-03-2006, 06:55 PM
sorry............my mistake it was not THE DAILY MAIL who didnT cover it, it was The Daily Telegraph,
http://www.blink.org.uk/pdescription.asp?key=9514&grp=55&cat=199
Yet more bollocks. :rolleyes:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/09/29/ubody.xml&sSheet=/portal/2005/09/29/ixportaltop.html
And for the record - the Telegraph article was from 29/09/2005 - the 'Black Information Link' on the other hand on the 6/10/2005 wrongly accused the Telegraph of not covering the Rochelle Holness story 'at all.'
You might want to use reliable sources in future...
Jim V
29-03-2006, 11:44 PM
Using private messages to send bizarre messages about board postings is truly wierd. You want to say something then either keep it public or leave destiny
stargalaxy
29-03-2006, 11:52 PM
Using private messages to send bizarre messages about board postings is truly wierd. You want to say something then either keep it public or leave destiny I forwarded one I'd received to you, from what I'm told though, I wasn't the only one who got weird PMs as a result.
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