How much do you need to live on???

[Walkindude]

I have left university now and am looking for a job, hopefully find one, a permanent one and not these short term jobs, move out and live my life right?

Well someone told me the other day that you need at least 15k a year gorss and 12,500k net to live on.

They said with tax and bills and such, int heir experience anything less and you can't afford to live basically.

Well that sucks for me. I have'nt been able to get a permanent job since leaving uni and am going for an interview on friday for a job at my old uni thats paying 11,709k to 12,335k a year.

I was hoping to move out, get a student style flat and be truelly independant and grow but what if I can't afford to do that?

Someone else told me that 11k to 12k is sa good starting salry and is fine to live on, plus there will be pay increases and such so who is right?

[budda]

It depends where you are, in London a wage of much less than about £15k if you are living by yourself is probably going to be a bit tight.

[SuzyCreamcheese]

depends how much your rent and council tax is.

[Walkindude]

Indeed.

Well good jobs in London pay over that usually, but this one I am going for is in Leeds.

I was looking at places that are 45-50 something a week. I have no idea what the council tax would be though :confused: :(

[Kermit]

Well that's utter bollocks for a start, as a couple we live on £1500 a month.

[Wyetry]

Ohh thats megga cheap for renting - you can probably live on about £12k I guess if your only paying that much in rent.

In london you'd be lucky to get anything for under £100 a week so wages tend to be higher. Though i'm sure i'd cry if i had to pay that much.

What you would need to do is work out how much you would pay a month in:

Rent
Bills
Council Tax
Getting to and from work
Going out and food etc (I budget about £250 a month for this which isn't enough for London but might be enough for leeds)
Student Loan
Anything else

Hope that helps...

[Olive]

I was looking at places that are 45-50 something a week. I have no idea what the council tax would be though :confused: :(

cheapy places tend to be band A or B. these (http://www.leeds.gov.uk/Living/Council%20tax/Council%20tax%20bands/page.aspx?style=) are the leeds rates this year, although they are said to be rising a fair bit next year :(

it cost me and mr. kaff £500 a month each to live happily. that includes everything from the mortgage payments to our dinners at work. everything we earn on top of this is disposable income.

if you are on a lower income, you can get by quite happily, you just need to budget a bit and look for ways of saving where you can. like renting a room in a shared house rather than living alone. if there's a few of you, you'll save on bills and you'll have company, but you'll still be independant.

[Walkindude]

true but I have no idea how I'd be with strnagers. Don't wanna riks losing money and stuff or have a bad time.

Kermit - how mcuh does £1500 a month come to in a year?

I can't see the link yet but wil check it out. Thanks for the advice, more welcome.

[Kermit]

Kermit - how mcuh does £1500 a month come to in a year?

About £18,000.

If you're by yourself, living with other people is the best bet. Most places will let each room out separately, so you won't be liable for other people's losses. And it makes council tax cheaper.

[Jarvey Of Suburbia]

About two gold bars...ARRRRR!! :D

[Char_Baby]

About £18,000.

If you're by yourself, living with other people is the best bet. Most places will let each room out separately, so you won't be liable for other people's losses. And it makes council tax cheaper.
Can I ask how thats divided up? need some budgeting tips!

[Walkindude]

I don't how good I'd be living with strangers though...

Not at uni anymore either so can't really go intwith the students, thats why I thought flat would be best, but a student flat like.

[Walkindude]

So you reckon 11K to 12K isn't enough to live on independantly?

[budda]

So you reckon 11K to 12K isn't enough to live on independantly?

If you are sharing a house in a relatively cheap part of the country it should be fine. You wont be rich though.

[Walkindude]

Could it be enough for a flat in Leeds, smallish, living on your own? Enough to pay bills and have some spends?

[Foxxy_Cymru]

I dont really know about this personally, but if you live somewhere that the rent is reasonably prices, and you know how to manage your money i dont see why you cant live off £12k, an still be able to have little treats.

[Kat_B]

my sister lives on around £11,000 i think. but she house shares.

[Olive]

Could it be enough for a flat in Leeds, smallish, living on your own? Enough to pay bills and have some spends?

if it's a small flat in a shitty area, then yes. but then if you live alone you'll have to shoulder all the bills yourself, which will wipe out the rest of your income. you'll get a single person discount on council tax, but it'll still be the best part of £600 a year, at least.

personally, i think if you don't share you would struggle.

[Senor Miguel]

11-12k should be more than enough to live off in leeds mate, i was living on about 950 a month in london for a while after uni (with 300 going straight on rent) and i managed fine, okay that was after tax but london's bloody expensive so i'm sure you can do it......you probably won't have to live in a ghetto either so consider yourself lucky :yes: .........shared housing is definitely the cheaper way to go though, anyways you'll get bored on your own unless you have lots of mates in the area, and i always go for places that have bills and council tax etc inclusive so i don't have to worry about all that shit......

[Kermit]

£11,000 will not be enough in a single-occupancy flat in Leeds, unless you want to live in Seacroft.

The more people who you share with, the lower the council tax as it is shared out between more people. The cheaper the rent.

To compare, a single-bed flat will cost about £350-£500pcm in rent. A 2-bed flat will cost about £450-£600pcm. You only get a 25% council tax discount for single occupancy.

Leeds, as you know, is not a cheap city to live in. You could move further out of the city, you could move to Bradford, Halifax or Huddersfield, which are all cheaper, but I doubt you'd want to do that.

[Kermit]

If you are sharing a house in a relatively cheap part of the country it should be fine.

He won't be though.

Leeds is expensive.

[Olive]

Leeds is expensive.

:yes:

and it's getting worse.

ok, so let's work this out. £12,000 a year works out about £800 a month, after tax.

for around £270 per month, you can rent a bedsit in beeston (with a shared bathroom. yummy). £300 you can get an ok flat in beeston/harehills. for about £350 you can get an ok flat in an ok area. probably the best option

so we're down to £550 of your wage left. for argument's sake, let's assume your flat is band A, and you're getting single occupancy discount. so about £50 a month. that's half your wage gone straight away.

contents insurance? well, if you've settled for the aforementioned shitty areas, your insurance will be sky high, but you'll need it, cause you'll be getting burgled approxiamately once every 18 months. let's go with £30 a month.

bills? not sure how much they'll be, but let's say £120 a month for everything (gas/leccy/water/phone/tv licence/tinternet/mobile phone). now we have £250 left.

you need to eat. we'll budget for £25 a week. another £100 a month gone.

travel? god hope you don't have a car, cause the insurance alone in shitty area is frightening, without even considering petrol, tax and maintenance. let's give you £12.50 a week for travel. And we're down to £100.

so, yeah. if you live on a tight, tight budget and make lots of compromises, you probably could get by. but consider having only £25 a week to spend on anything else you want. and that's assuming i haven't left anything out, which i probably have.

i think you need to really think this through.

edited to add: oh, and your flat probably isn't furnished.

[sophia]

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[Walkindude]

Damn..................

I was banking on getting one of those flats in that new building over the road from Leeds uni, the ones that say £54 a week rent? Scarlett, you will know it.

No, my mtaes are al home guys excpet for one and I don't him that well and he is a made rocker dude and while nice, the first thing him an dhi smates did when they moved in was trash the house... I am a fun guy but not sure I am that wild to be honest.

Very depressing.

[Lacy]

£54pw for a new flat? :eek2:

[Guest_]

Well someone told me the other day that you need at least 15k a year gorss and 12,500k net to live on.

Depends on how comfortable you want to be. Sounds about right to me, though.

[katchika]

Depends on how comfortable you want to be. Sounds about right to me, though.

That's rubbish. I get 14k, and for the last 6 months got 13K. I rent my own flat (don't share), ride a scooter, go out a few times a month and manage all right, although I don't have anything left over.

I suppose it depends where you live and how you budget. If you smoke or drink a lot, or run a car, or insist on spending £30 + on phone calls a month, then you will find it a struggle.

[Guest_]

That's rubbish.

No it isn't. It depends on how you define comfortable, and where you live.
Comfortable to me is having some left over to save.

[katchika]

yeah of course it depends on your definition of comfortable. If you've been brought up to expect plasma TVs and unlimited broadband at home, and eating out a lot and expect to save, then yes, I agree.

My definition of living comfortably is not having to constantly worry about money, not having to live somewhere horrible just because it's cheap, and be able to enjoy yourself, I can do that on my salary, I guess others couldn't.

[Walkindude]

Well I don't drive at all and don't smoke but I would wanna get like ntl cable broadband combined type thing. Buy food to eat, go out a few times a month on nights out or cinema and get a few dvds and such as well as pay my bills and rent.

Thats the aim.

[drumbeat]

im moving in with 4 3rd year students in july, and will be paying £60 a week rent (but i see that as expensive cos im paying 45 now).

if a years rent is damn near £3000, ill put £1000 aside for bills and stuff (its best to round this stuff up), and 2000 on tax, a basic salary of £10000 - £12000 will still leave me with somewhere between £4000 and £6000 to spend on food, going out, and little treats.

£4000 divided into 50 weeks gives me £80 every week to play with.

am i missing something? i could easily live off £80 for 2 weeks, 3-4 if i dont go out.

if i save up £40 every week, i will have £2000 for a trip around the world next summer.

seriously, am i missing something? i know a lot of people have a car, while i bike, but i still feel that i could save £2000 within one year.

[Olive]

ill put £1000 aside for bills and stuff (its best to round this stuff up)

am i missing something?

council tax? you'll have to pay it even if you're living with students. again, possibly with the discount, but it ain't going to be much less than £600 a year.

[Walkindude]

This question is on the home page!

Sorry, my question picked for the home page gives me a sense of pride...

anyway, so some conflicting advice it seems. All gratefully recieved though. More please.

Won't be moving anywhere if I don't get a permanent job.


Those student loan leaflets said graduates get graduate jobs stratight away after leaving earning 18k a year or more. Pff I don't know any graduates from my year that are. If I did then I wouldn't have to ask this question.

[Kermit]

That's rubbish. I get 14k, and for the last 6 months got 13K. I rent my own flat (don't share), ride a scooter, go out a few times a month and manage all right, although I don't have anything left over.

You'll need about £10,000 after tax to live comfortably. Which you do. I think saying £12,500 after tax is a little high, but not by much.

Graduates who apply for graduate jobs get graduate jobs straight after graduation. Where I currently work is full of grads who, like me, couldn't be arsed after uni.

If you want to stay in the city, sharing is by far and away your best option. ou don't have to share with 40 people, but if you don't share with at least one person, it gets expensive. Put it this way, a decent two-bed or three-bed flat is not twice or thrice the price of a decent studio.

If you're prepared to move to Bradford or Halifax, and commute into Leeds, its gets quite a bit cheaper. But a lot of people aren't prepared to.

[Walkindude]

Your right, I ain't moving to Bradford and such.

Well I wanna enquire about thisnew place that has £54 per week rent and free summer rent coz it seems a good deal, but I have a feeling its for students only :(

Well I am just saying in my expereine, no one I know form uni and kknow one they know has gotten a grad job yet.

I mean I don't know where you owrk kermit but I know there's loads of grad jobs in accounting, engineering and law but I didn't do those subjects.

[lipsy]

I mean I don't know where you owrk kermit but I know there's loads of grad jobs in accounting, engineering and law but I didn't do those subjects.
a lot of grad jobs don't require you to have studied the subject at university. i know a few people who did geography for example and are now training to be accountants with major firms.

[Walkindude]

yeah I know, but what I also meant was there are loads of jobs in accounting, enginerring and law for grads.

But you can't do law or engineering jobs without them degress and I don't wanna be an accountant.

[Guest_]

Your right, I ain't moving to Bradford

This calls for a 1996 Dom Perignon.

Well I wanna enquire about thisnew place that has £54 per week rent and free summer rent coz it seems a good deal, but I have a feeling its for students only :(



Yeah, free summer rent is usually indicative of a student place.

[katchika]

Well they're not going to know, are they?

I stayed in my student house for a few months after graduating, because it was half rent over the summer.

Look at the jobs you are interested in and see how much they generally pay.

[Walkindude]

Jobs I am interested in I can't get!!!

Though I am waiting to hear on 2 graduate schemes, although they are based in London and Cheltenham not Leeds.

Well I graduated last year, they might know??!!

[katchika]

Jobs I am interested in I can't get!!!

Though I am waiting to hear on 2 graduate schemes, although they are based in London and Cheltenham not Leeds.

Well I graduated last year, they might know??!!

Well have you got some sort of back up plan if you don't get onto a graduate scheme? There's a lot of competition for those jobs.

[Walkindude]

I have just been applying for jobs, have been since I graduated.

I was online for a grda schem ein my 3rd year but didn't get it then it all kinda went down.

I have only been able to get temp jobs so far.

[katchika]

I have just been applying for jobs, have been since I graduated.

I was online for a grda schem ein my 3rd year but didn't get it then it all kinda went down.

I have only been able to get temp jobs so far.

OK I see, well if you are managing to live on temp wages at the moment why are you so worried about the future?

Temping can be a good way in.

[Walkindude]

I'm not.

I live at home. I pay £80 a month rent, plus pay back whatever money I borrow or any expenisve phone pill I make (which I don't luckily)

I have had 4 temp josb so far. 1 last 2 days, 1 last a month, another last 3 days and this on I am on is a 3 weeks deal.


I don't pay bills or owt like that or council tax like I would if I moved out. I just pay this flat £80 a month.

Which is good coz I get my clothes washed and ironed, cooked food, a guarnteed bed, ntl cable and free internet....

but I geuss I could get too comfortable and be a sad guy that lives at home all his life and its hardly attractive to women..

So I wanna move out, grow as a person, be indpendant and yes..more attractive to women.

[budda]

You really should learn to cook/clean/iron/etc before you leave home if you havent already.

[Walkindude]

Well I can cook to a degree, I only need tolearn the seetings for washing and I can do that. I am pretty adapt and cleaning, though I don't know how to iron...

was thinking I could pay someone for that...

[budda]

Well I can cook to a degree, I only need tolearn the seetings for washing and I can do that. I am pretty adapt and cleaning, though I don't know how to iron...

was thinking I could pay someone for that...

I'd learn if I were you, £12k isnt going to get you a maid as well as your own flat.

[Walkindude]

I was thinking my nan, not a maid.

[budda]

I was thinking my nan, not a maid.

For gods sake, stand on your own feet, you're not a child.

[Walkindude]

oh fuck off. This is what I was on about to the mods, fo fucks sake.

People like you ruin message boards.

it didn't require that comment.

if I choose to learn to iron I will, if I don't I won't. I'll pay some1 or I'll not pay.

Your insults make no difference.

If your not going to give advice or at least post in a civilised manner then please stay off this thread.

[_guest]

Washing machine settings are a piece of piss. The label on the clothes clearly states the setting, you put in your powder (non-bio for general and colour washes, biological for whites and stains) and switch on. That's really not a big hurdle. :)

Let your poor nan be, she's probably been washing dirty undercrackers for decades now. Buy her a nice bunch of flowers instead!

[Walkindude]

It fills her day!! lol

Joke.

Wel she has often said she should get money for the ironing she does, why not make that wish come true?? lol

Its just an idea. Nothing is settled yet.

[_guest]

Wel she has often said she should get money for the ironing she does, why not make that wish come true?? lol

She should! You'd have to shell out for a professional ironing service otherwise. Honestly, learn to iron, it's an essential life skill imo...or learn to love creased clothes. ;)

I'm not having a go, just saying.

[Walkindude]

indeed.

I have a a bit of a fear of hot, steaming things tho. Always think I'm gonna get burned :(

If I move out, I guess I will learn.

Seems complicated though, getting it just right and creases in right places and such lol.

[_guest]

More chance of you burning your clothes than yourself...though the steam can be a bit perilous at times. :p

Hmm, there's got to be some serious money in teaching [some] men to iron.

[Little_one]

I'm so happy that my bf knows how to iron his shrits, then he can do mine as well, they are the one thing that I still find tricky to do, I suppose its because I don't have to wear them that often, so when I do my ironing I never have to worry about it.

[budda]

People like you ruin message boards.

Just a bit of an over reaction dont you think?

[katchika]

I never iron anything *shrug*
But then I don't wear cotton shirts or the type of clothes that need ironing really. I don't understand people who waste their time ironing everything, like socks, and pillow cases and T shirts.

[Walkindude]

I have been having a bad time on this baord bong, and it stems form a wider issue on here. On reflection your comment may not have been as harsh as I first thought, but my response was in relation to something earlier today.

[Walkindude]

Well if I get an office job I need my shirts ironing and trousers.

But then again, my t-shirts and shirts and jeans also get ironed.

Not my underwear or socks tho..

[Lacy]

Just a bit of an over reaction dont you think?

Have a bit of compassion for the man, can't you see hes being bullied? :p

[Walkindude]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :chin: :impissed: :chin: :impissed:

[Walkindude]

Seriously.

Any more genuine advice is welcome.

[Guest_]

There are few things simpler than ironing, which is probably why there're few things less interesting.

As for washing, clothes at 40 (unless it says different), bedclothes at 60 degrees.

[Walkindude]

indeed.

any more advice on living independantly?

[littlemissy]

Well if I get an office job I need my shirts ironing and trousers.

But then again, my t-shirts and shirts and jeans also get ironed.

Not my underwear or socks tho..

I never iron anything unless it is obviously needing it. I never iron jeans or trousers and I never iron shirts. Hubby works in an office and his shirts are never ironed. If you hang them up properly as soon as they come out of the washing machine (actually this goes for any item of clothing) then they don't need ironing.

[Walkindude]

wow..

really????

hmmm, that might come in use....

[_guest]

I actually don't mind ironing, there are other chores I find much worse. It's my thinking time, though, and I like the way my clothes look when they're ironed.

I think sock-ironing people are very few and far between, though my Grandmother always used to iron bedding. Just depends on what you think looks alright, to be honest. :)

[lucifer devil]

i wouldn't have thought ironing was something that needed to be 'learned'. you just put the item of clothing on the ironing board and iron out the creases, non?

[Kat_B]

to be honest, most household tasks arent hard, theyre just boring and far too much effort!

[lipsy]

Well I wanna enquire about thisnew place that has £54 per week rent and free summer rent coz it seems a good deal, but I have a feeling its for students only :(

some of my friends live in that building. i have a feeling that they are all shared though i.e. 4 people per flat.


have you considered sharing with young professionals rather than students? i bet they would be easier to get along with because they will have different priorities.

also, think of the benefits of sharing rather than just the worry of not getting along with them.
firstly, you would have some sort of a meeting to decide if the house is right for you and if you're right for them.
secondly, it would save you loads of money because you would share council tax, share bills and pay less rent.
thirdly, it would improve your social life because you could go out with them and meet their friends.

[Walkindude]

yeah I enquired there yesterday, its a minimum of two beds, so 2 people sharing.

That is an idea. But with how me and some pople don't get on, I mean here a case in point, I do't wanna move in with people, start out fine, then fall out an dlive in a terrible state or lose money and be forced to move out or summat. That would make me more depressed and such.

I still can't afford it anyway. I didn't get the jb I went to an interview for, tho they offered me a different one but its only for 3 months, but I am waiting for details before I say yes.

then I also discover that one of my referess gave me a bad reference.....

so thats got me down and I have to sort that out now.

I wouldn tknow where to begin finding people to move in with anyway. Plus I am always shy and quiet with new people at first. Not a great impression.

[lipsy]

you really need to be more postive. that type of what-if-the-world-ends attitude will get you nowhere.
also, don't use thesite as a basis of how well you get on with people. i don't think thesite is representative of society anyway.

[Walkindude]

Well I know myself in general what i am like and whats happened to me. It colours me and IO am sorry but it does.

maybe I do need to be more positive, sometimes my mindset colours my responses on here so.

I am just practical is all, think of all the angles and such.

I do't wana be an idiot and lose all my money or something just for some taste of independance.

[Kermit]

Hubby works in an office and his shirts are never ironed. If you hang them up properly as soon as they come out of the washing machine (actually this goes for any item of clothing) then they don't need ironing.

Oh, they do. YOu can tell the difference between a shirt that's just been hung up, and a shirt that has been properly pressed.

Ironing is a piece of cake. It takes me about 2-3 minutes to iron a shirt. I hate it, but hey, I like to look professional.

walkindude, on your wage, you cannot afford to rent by yourself. Most places have shared amenities. That is a simple fact. You can either learn to live with people, or move back in with mummy and daddy. Those are the choices.

Don't whinge about temping, temping is a good way of getting valuable experience. Your degree doesn't get you anything, it is merely a qualification. You either get onto a graduate scheme (but even then the degree is merely the pre-qualifier to be eligible) or you start lower down the tree and work your way up. Nothing lands on your plate if you don't work for it.

I've temped for two years since leaving university, and now I have some very good experience to be progressing onwards onto permanent roles. Where I work is full of graduates temping in order to get experience- they're getting the experience, and then getting the permanent roles.

[Walkindude]

Did I say I was complianing about temping???

Although uni does give you the impression you should be getting permanent josb as soon as you leave.

I live at home already. So this is where I am.

So its live at home an dbe a pariah or live with strangers and risk everything?

Some choice.

[Kermit]

Did I say I was complianing about temping???

It came across that you weren't happy doing it, that's all.

You have to start somewhere.

Although uni does give you the impression you should be getting permanent josb as soon as you leave.

Of course they do.

They have to sell themselves, 98% of all people in employment after six months? Sounds great. I was in a £5 an hour job.

I live at home already. So this is where I am.

So its live at home an dbe a pariah or live with strangers and risk everything?

Some choice.

Them's the choices, because the housing market is so offensively inflated these days.

[Walkindude]

Bugger.

Not easy is it??

Finacially I'd be way better off at home, but as a person...I don't know, doubtful.

Yeah, student loan compnay said all grads are in a grad job a year after graduating. I think thats bollocks myself. Shocking really.

Temping is ok, just get short contracts tho so takes a bit to build up the years solid of office experience to apply of permanent jobs.

[Guest_]

Living away from home will do wonders for you :)

Do it. Share a house with people.

Of course it's not always fun, but it can be, and will help you develop as a person in a way you can't do (or will find it harder to) when still living at home.

Temp jobs can be fucking shit, but they're a start and some experience. You'll fare better in the permenant job market when you have some experience working (doing owt in an office is useful), and a degree to go with it.
It can prove that you're intelligent and can work with people (assuming you can ;) ), and will therefore be useful to the company.

If living with people is really naff, you could always go back home.

[Walkindude]

yeah

I just don't wanna lose a shit load of money just to move back home lol.

Suppose, finding somewhere affordable, decent location and then impressing people will be interesting.

I wish my friends were more move out of home times. Only one of them has and he is a mad rocker type dude that wrecked his house as soon as he got in it. My other mate probably will move out soon but is gonna move straight with his gf, and they don't wanta 3rd wheel.

The other main 2 are still at home.

Oh well.

All hinges on me getting a job first.

Howdo you deal with who watches what on tv and who gets shower time and such like that though?

[lucifer devil]

get a tv in your room??

that's not to suggest you should be a hermit or anything! you'll probably just find you work around what people like. i live with 3 other girls and we tend to like the same programmes. if someones watching something i don't like in the living room i'll just go to my room.

the thing that annoys me most is people not emptying the bin/doing their dishes!! :grump:

[Walkindude]

lol!!

Well I guess girls usually have the same tastes (sorry, sexist comment, I take it back)

I know I just like a lot of specific programmes and its abd enough sharing with the family now so sharing with others will be interesting.

I can do dishes no worries and while I am untidy at home, whene I am own my own I am fairly tidy so reckon i would be if I lived with people or on my own.

What about personal stuff tho??

I mean a group of girls, one or more of you is bound to hav a bf that comes over and its not like you'd sleep in seperate beds is it?

I mean how do you handle 2 people going at it in the next room? Do you haver to keep the nosie down, do they?

What if you bring someone back they don't know like? I mean are there rules? Do you all have to vacate if one you is planning a night of passion?

[lucifer devil]

you just learn to share - though this doesn't mean you have to share anything. just be mature, logical and sensible about it.

i hate having lads over in this house. thin walls + squeaky bed + housemate in next room not appreciative of squeaky bed noises = :(

[lipsy]

What if you bring someone back they don't know like? I mean are there rules? Do you all have to vacate if one you is planning a night of passion?
i don't understand what you are asking here..


but anyway, when you move out you leanr to compromise and be mature about things. i'm totally spoilt at home but once i moved out that all changed.
i lived with 10 girls in 2nd year and this year i'm with 7 girls. we haven't had one argument, nada! just make sure you have a tv in your room so that if no-one else wants to watch your programme you can go watch it there.

when you go round to the house for the first time to meet everyone, it will be pretty obvious whether they're dickheads or not. i can tell straight away if i'm not gona like someone. also, have a few questions prepared like whether people smoke, if they take turns in cleaning etc.

[Kermit]

You seem a bit obsessed by sex, mate.

If a flatmate is going at it, you just turn the telly up. Big deal.

As I've said before, mates of mine on £30k need to flatshare. It's not that bad.

[Walkindude]

£30k a year and sharing. Are they oin pent houses or summat??

Well I have heard from some people that share a flat that if 1 is planning to bring someone back, then the othe rhas to clear out for the night or several hours at least.

Some places I have heard, don't all ow you to bring somone back, like someone they don't really well.

I am not obessed!!! Its a practical question!

yeah my own tv is a must, have to have cable or sky tho.

aww sorry to hear that lucifer :(

oh and I meant say earlier sometime, nice new avatar lipsy.

[lipsy]

oh and I meant say earlier sometime, nice new avatar lipsy.
thanks :D i took a pic of my lips and icey made it into an av for me. he's such a good boy ;)

[katralla]

yeah my own tv is a must, have to have cable or sky tho.


you may well find you'll have to cut back on a few luxuries until you're minted. I personally would rather enhance my shoe collection rather than have sky/cable, idealyy I'd have both but, until I'm minted- one of 'em has to go...

[Walkindude]

thanks :D i took a pic of my lips and icey made it into an av for me. he's such a good boy ;)


Well they are some very nice lips, lipsy ;) :thumb: :D :yes:

[Walkindude]

you may well find you'll have to cut back on a few luxuries until you're minted. I personally would rather enhance my shoe collection rather than have sky/cable, idealyy I'd have both but, until I'm minted- one of 'em has to go...

Oh no, I used to be without cable/sky for years, then we got cable a bit back...its good stuff. I just couldn't go back now. Every new series is on and they show top notch stuff, plus cool repeats as well.

I want to be minted though for sure.

You could never get bored when your rich, and those that are, just ain't trying.

I don't need to add to my sho collection, just a decent pair of trainers/shows for everyday use, on smart set of shoes and maybe some crappy trainers for mud and physical work. Thats me done :)

[katralla]

Oh no, I used to be without cable/sky for years, then we got cable a bit back...its good stuff. I just couldn't go back now. Every new series is on and they show top notch stuff, plus cool repeats as well.


are you joking? I was joking about the shoe collection Dude, kinda.

[Walkindude]

Seriously!! I couldn't do without it now.

I mean new smallville, new OC, new ER, New Bones, New 24, New cleraks aintmated series, new nip/tuck when it comes back, new hex when it comes back plus repeats of Buffy, Futurama and Angel.

Then theres random documenatries, music videos, music programmes, South Park!!

All in digital glory....

[katralla]

You could never get bored when your rich, and those that are, just ain't trying.

I was gonna pick at this, like er, why be bored when you're poor unless you're boring... etc BUT, might be taken as pick on the glum guy SO:

When ok, if I were minted I would buy a massive trampoline to go in my big ass free adventure park (michael jackson stlye- without the weird kiddy fiddlin stuff). There'd be a massive stage where I'd get up every week and perform good/rubbish stuff, and anyone can have a go, with buckets full of rotten tomatoes for the audience to throw as well as roses and free flowing booze. Hmmm, I could never be bored if I were rich...

[Walkindude]

Exactly!!!!!!

You could but anything and get that lovely materialistic glow of enjoyment at your new toy. I'd get all the dvds I want, music, books, comics. I'd get some of may fave arcade games and have an arcade room. G out out to clubs and such. Have parties. Learn to drive and get a car and drive. Swing yourself into the higher sets and celeberity areas. Met new people, ear new clothes. Go on hols, do tons of fun stuff.

And even if you truly get bored of all that, and I reckon you couldn't anyway, you could always donate some to charity, raise awreness stuff liek that.

Start a business and run it.

All sorts.

I wanna be rich.

[Walkindude]

How do you work out food then??

I mean do you get food together an dpay half each or do you buy your own food???

[lipsy]

How do you work out food then??

I mean do you get food together an dpay half each or do you buy your own food???
you each have your own cupboard and space in the fridge. in our house we mostly cook for ourselfves but sometimes we take it in turns to cook for everyone.

[Walkindude]

Nice.

I'd be wanting plenty of stuff for myself though.

Lot of drink and various food items.

what happens if you ahve bought summat for you and your housemate nicks it? How is that resolved?

[_guest]

Duel to the death?

You just do resolve it, maybe in a different way depending on the type of person you are. You're not doing yourself any favours by imagining all these scenarios, they may never arise and even if they do well...you just deal with it.

Generally I'd say that if you're non-students in a house share then initially at least you'll do your own cooking, have your own food etc. But maybe you'll become mates and all decide to club together and take turns cooking etc, maybe you won't. Your potential flatmates are the ones with the answers to these questions, I'm afraid. All flat/house shares are different and while we can advise...we don't actually know what will happen in most of these situations. :)

[Walkindude]

I suppose so.

just thinking of all the angles you know?

can't do owt till I get a permanent job anyway.

any chance of hearing about your poetry book briggi?

[Walkindude]

Well I have accepted the 3 month job at the uni, going to an interview 2moz for a job that lasts 2 years.


Hopefully this is the start of a good, long, decent work career that can allow me to have at least some of the things I want.

[lipsy]

aww congrats :)

[lucifer devil]

Well I have accepted the 3 month job at the uni, going to an interview 2moz for a job that lasts 2 years.


Hopefully this is the start of a good, long, decent work career that can allow me to have at least some of the things I want.


good luck. :)

[Walkindude]

Awww thanks you 2 :)

Got an interview today for another job up there , don't think I'll get it but leats I have this one.