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pinkvans
06-02-2006, 01:25 PM
I've done a search on it on here but didn't quite find what i was looking for. I've read the requisite articles on BMEzine, know I have to start with a 12 ga SOMETHING, but have had conflicting advice. do I put in a BCR first of all or are there 12 ga tusks available.. and what material is best to start with, acrylic or titanium or something else? and any other advice/comments welcome.

SuzyCreamcheese
06-02-2006, 01:29 PM
dunno, just keep putting in ones that are slightly bigger every few weeks, and stretch gradually. i dont know what the abbreviations you have used mean though sorry.

http://onetribe.nu/catalog/stretching.php

pinkvans
06-02-2006, 01:37 PM
12 ga - 0.8 mm jewellry
BCR - ball closure ring :)

SuzyCreamcheese
06-02-2006, 01:54 PM
oh right, well i went straight from having normal ear piercing to having a 2mm taper, which hurt for about 2 hours, but then was fine. going to keep it for a week and then go to 3mm.
I dont think there are any rules tbh, you stretch it as much or as quickly as you want to, according to how much pain you can handle.

Ilora-Danon
06-02-2006, 01:54 PM
To: Pinkvans: That's not right. 12ga is approx 2mm in gauge.

The way I did it, was just buying bigger and bigger BCR's and steel Tapers. I started of by putting a 1.6mm navel bar through, and kept that in for 5 weeks. A couple of weeks later, I changed it for a 1.6mm steel bcr - the weight helped to stretch it.
6 weeks later and I bought a 2mm taper and some KY jelly and stretched up to 2mm, and put in a 2mm BCR... 6 weeks later, 2.4mm .... and you get the idea.

Ilora x

Ilora-Danon
06-02-2006, 01:57 PM
oh right, well i went straight from having normal ear piercing to having a 2mm taper, which hurt for about 2 hours, but then was fine. going to keep it for a week and then go to 3mm.
I dont think there are any rules tbh, you stretch it as much or as quickly as you want to, according to how much pain you can handle. No! There ARE rules.

Stretching should only be done with a minimum of 5 weeks in between stretches - otherwise, you risk causing 'blowout' - where your ear will tear and bleed (this can become a real problem and need surgery to sort out).

Stretching isn't something you can do in 2 weeks. It takes months of patience to acheive a desired gauge.

And... stretching shouldn't be painful if done PROPERLY.

Ilora x

pinkvans
06-02-2006, 02:19 PM
Thanks for the help. Obviously I am a little misinformed, but everyone I've asked seems to tell me different things, thanks for clearing that up.

My ears are well healed (having been pierced for over 19 years :P) so assumedly I can begin stretching possibly with a 1.6mm BCR straight away, woohoo.. thanks again for the advice.

Ooh almost forgot, where do you shop for your stretching jewellery? I'm away from home and don't know where the best piercing place is round here :confused:

Ilora-Danon
06-02-2006, 02:22 PM
Yeah no problem!

I buy all my gear online, it's so painfully overpriced in the shops.
I recommend www.bodyjewelleryshop.com and www.tajarts.co.uk

Ilora x

SuzyCreamcheese
06-02-2006, 02:27 PM
No! There ARE rules.

Stretching should only be done with a minimum of 5 weeks in between stretches - otherwise, you risk causing 'blowout' - where your ear will tear and bleed (this can become a real problem and need surgery to sort out).

Stretching isn't something you can do in 2 weeks. It takes months of patience to acheive a desired gauge.

And... stretching shouldn't be painful if done PROPERLY.

Ilora x
tell that to nihilistic madman who stretched his to 8mm in 3 days.... although apparently it did bleed a lot and his ears swelled up.

Ilora-Danon
06-02-2006, 02:56 PM
Hahaahaha then he deserved the repercussions for doing it too fast. :lol:

Ilora x

SuzyCreamcheese
06-02-2006, 03:02 PM
some people are just impulsive :p

katralla
06-02-2006, 03:46 PM
Although I like the look of flesh tubes- does it not worry you that when you take them out you'll have wrinly old lady fannies on your ears?

SuzyCreamcheese
06-02-2006, 04:00 PM
when taken out, after a while it will just look like you have a little line on your ear. they shrink quite quickly, obviously depending on how big the ear plug was.

LadyJade
06-02-2006, 04:45 PM
Unless you reach the point of no return, when your skin fibres have stretched too far to snap back - admittedly thats a pretty big hole though.

Ilora-Danon
06-02-2006, 04:52 PM
I stretched up to 6mm before taking them out - they took about 2 months to fully shrink back and now you wouldn't tell I'd ever stretched them.
It depends on the elasticity of your skin - which is different for everyone.

Ilora x

Kimono
06-02-2006, 04:54 PM
Unless you reach the point of no return, when your skin fibres have stretched too far to snap back - admittedly thats a pretty big hole though.

Yep, that would have to be a very big hole... My better half took his out 2 years ago. They were about 12mm and shrank back to a dot after a few months.

Guest
15-05-2006, 06:14 PM
depends on your pain tolerance... otherwise you can do by 2mm and the pain will still be quite low... if you are hardcore you can strach them by 3~4mm or more... but more be prepare for some bleeding tho... did mine up to 10mm in 3 days, bleed a lot and had 2 big red ears for few days... pain wasn't so bad, but I have a good tolerance when it comes to pain...

SuzyCreamcheese
15-05-2006, 06:19 PM
i went from 2mm to 4mm to 6mm. It usually hurts for an hour or so, maybe a bit sore to sleep on the first night, so i only do one ear and then wait a day or two before the next ear. make sure your ear is properly healed before going up a size obviously. Usually a few weeks at least.

Ilora-Danon
15-05-2006, 07:36 PM
sorry for dragging this up.. started stretching mine today. just wondering if anyone could tell me do you increase the stretchings by 1mm at a time? or what? just put a 2.4mm in :D cant wait to get them bigger muahahaha. From 2.4mm, you'll need 3.2mm, then 4mm, then 5mm, then 6mm etc and it's always a 1mm increment.

Ilora x

Ilora-Danon
15-05-2006, 07:40 PM
depends on your pain tolerance... otherwise you can do by 2mm and the pain will still be quite low... if you are hardcore you can strach them by 3~4mm or more... but more be prepare for some bleeding tho... did mine up to 10mm in 3 days, bleed a lot and had 2 big red ears for few days... pain wasn't so bad, but I have a good tolerance when it comes to pain... It's fair enough if you want to permanently damage yourself, but advising others to is irresponsible. :no:

Lacy
15-05-2006, 07:41 PM
I know it's each to their own, but who in their right mind would do that?!

Lacy
15-05-2006, 07:48 PM
think there's about 5 people in thread who would/have done? :p

i think it looks cute. only small ones for me like.

Hehe your all mad then.

my name
15-05-2006, 07:50 PM
*useless*

All I have to say is ouch. I can't even wear some normal earrings because the posts are a bit thicker than others and even that hurts me too much!

Props to anybody who can do it. :thumb:

SuzyCreamcheese
15-05-2006, 08:04 PM
It's fair enough if you want to permanently damage yourself, but advising others to is irresponsible. :no:
any kind of piercing/ tattooing/ body modification is permanently damaging yourself, so im not sure what your point is?
Just because YOUR piercer told you only do it in 1mm increments, doesnt make it scientific fact that anything else is completely the wrong way to do it.
I get annoyed by how much a stickler you are for rules and thinking there is only one right way of doing anything. loosen up a bit.
If it hurts too much, then go for smaller jewellery, or maybe get one of those ear taper things so you can adjust it as often as you can bear without having to buy all seperate jewellery.

.
15-05-2006, 08:14 PM
My boyfriend had his pierced at 3mm then two weeks later changed that to 4mm then a week after that to 5 and then a week after that to 6 and he said the only one that hurt was from 3-4 and that was because the hole was still fresh and not healed properly, all the other ones went in really easily.

Randomgirl
15-05-2006, 08:31 PM
I have a friend who is a qualified body piercer (she qualified abroad as in the UK there is no particular qualification needed to become a piercer :nervous: ) and she says the recommended way to do it is 1mm at a time. But she did own own ears at 2mm at a time to save money on jewellery.

I think they look horrible tbh but that's just my conservative taste for you :)

Ilora-Danon
15-05-2006, 09:00 PM
any kind of piercing/ tattooing/ body modification is permanently damaging yourself, so im not sure what your point is?
Just because YOUR piercer told you only do it in 1mm increments, doesnt make it scientific fact that anything else is completely the wrong way to do it.
I get annoyed by how much a stickler you are for rules and thinking there is only one right way of doing anything. loosen up a bit. Have you ever had Blowout? Have you ever seen what it can do? Stretching your ears too fast can cause scar tissue to form, causing no end of problems. Sometimes blowout can need medical assistance and cosmetic surgery to fix. I've seen what it can do which is the reason why I try and advise people to stretch very very slowly.
You can talk to any piercer and they'll all recommend 1mm increments. It's not just something I believe in. It's piercing general knowledge, that I like to share with people who ask for it and believe it to be irresponsible to advise otherwise.

Ilora x

Guest
15-05-2006, 10:19 PM
Have you ever had Blowout? Have you ever seen what it can do? Stretching your ears too fast can cause scar tissue to form, causing no end of problems. Sometimes blowout can need medical assistance and cosmetic surgery to fix. I've seen what it can do which is the reason why I try and advise people to stretch very very slowly.
You can talk to any piercer and they'll all recommend 1mm increments. It's not just something I believe in. It's piercing general knowledge, that I like to share with people who ask for it and believe it to be irresponsible to advise otherwise.

Ilora x

I am a piercer, I don't practice anymore (well only on SCC and myself) cos got bored of piercing everyone and 2mm is more than safe... the only reason piercer do it as slow as possible is because they make more money this way and cos most people are woos and they can't be bothered with people coming to them ever time they feel a little pain... 2 mm is far from being a big extension at all...

some piercers even hang themself from their piercings (like the guy below) and they are fucking piercers and they don't get any blowout, they are professionals and wouldn't do it if there was a risk...

http://www.evolvedbodyart.com/gallery/dave5.jpg

The guy on this pictures extend the piercings he have by way more than 2,3 or even 4 mm and he will be perfectly fine... it might seem a crazy stuff to do, but I will repeat myself, they are professional and wouldn't do it if they didn't know it was safe...

my name
15-05-2006, 10:25 PM
Oh I've seen that before! How do they get it so it doesn't rip out? Do they pierce really deep or is there a special way to do it or something?

Guest
15-05-2006, 10:29 PM
Oh I've seen that before! How do they get it so it doesn't rip out? Do they pierce really deep or is there a special way to do it or something?

The skin is much stronger than people think... they simply go properly under the skin and not under the first few layers and use some hooks big enough so they don't cut your skin...

They can do it with thinner hoock as well, but they will need more so there is less weight per hoock and less pressure on the skin...

I never done that tho, but always wanted to give it a go and would probably if given the chance...

Also obviously this is not pan free...

But hey, no pain, no game...

Guest
15-05-2006, 10:41 PM
i cant see the pic but i really wanna!!

Will try to add it as an attachement then...

my name
15-05-2006, 10:44 PM
Have you ever seen or pierced anybody with the corset piercing? I think thats what its called, probably not. The 2 rows of rings on their back that they can weave ribbon and such thru. I've always thought those were so fun.

Guest
15-05-2006, 10:57 PM
Have you ever seen or pierced anybody with the corset piercing? I think thats what its called, probably not. The 2 rows of rings on their back that they can weave ribbon and such thru. I've always thought those were so fun.

Like that...

http://z.about.com/d/urbanlegends/1/0/r/9/pic05249.jpg

Nope never... Not hard to do tho...

Once I pass 20 needles on my side... was fun :)

Knee High Stripy Socks
15-05-2006, 11:01 PM
No Heather-hugs for you if you get that done :p

Guest
15-05-2006, 11:07 PM
that looks gorgeous i think.

Yes I looks good too as well imo...

I have seen more on the web, but they were not all pretty, that one is quite sexy...

SuzyCreamcheese
16-05-2006, 01:39 PM
I love that corset thing. Somehow dont think it would look as good on me though as it does on her.

my name
16-05-2006, 04:11 PM
What do they use to stretch ears? Are they tapered so its easier to get in? Do you just kind of shove it in when your increasing it or do it slowly? I'm quite curious about this, I went to schook with lots of boys who had this done and I never knew anything about it.

Guest
16-05-2006, 04:23 PM
You use stretching taps like those...

http://i24.ebayimg.com/05/i/06/f2/c1/a1_1.JPG

Also depending on how is the jewerly you want to put, you can do it with the jewerly...

I done mine with a pen... which isn't recommened obviously...

SuzyCreamcheese
16-05-2006, 04:45 PM
or like this
http://www.jobananas.com/acatalog/actaper-rd.jpg

so you can just put it in a little at a time. Its probably a less painful, cheaper way of doing it with less chance of damage. Tbh though, if you stay within your own pain threshold then youre unliklely to damage yourself anyway, despite what Ilora danon says.
If it fucking kills then youve probably done it a bit fast. When i went from 2 to 4 it REALLY hurt. really really fucking hurt - I cried, but it still didnt do that blowout thing, and my body usually doesnt like piercings all that much anyway, whereas when I had my navel done, I did get blowout, and that wasnt stretched, it was just a normal piercing.
When I went from 4 to 6mm it only hurt a little bit. I could sleep on it the same night.

Knee High Stripy Socks
16-05-2006, 04:55 PM
One of my ex's friends put a cork through his ear (the whole that he was stretching) while he was drunk, only it expanded and made it bleed lots. Fool!

H-face
16-05-2006, 05:03 PM
One of my ex's friends put a cork through his ear

I read that as he put a cock through his ear :rolleyes:

Knee High Stripy Socks
16-05-2006, 05:05 PM
:lol:
I think that would hurt a bit more than a cork!