Satre - Freedom and being human

[MrG]

http://www.dur.ac.uk/j.c.metheringham/Diss0.htm

have a look in here, tis my friends dissertation, might be interesting for klintock toread

[Yerascrote]

http://www.dur.ac.uk/j.c.metheringham/Diss0.htm

have a look in here, tis my friends dissertation, might be interesting for klintock toread

i did an essay on existentialism and studied a bit of sartre for it...interesting stuff indeed...

[Jim V]

Is it supposed to look left aligned word by word?

[Kentish]

There's left justified and there's one word per line. Sort it out Metheringham.

[MrG]

works fine in opera :P

[Blagsta]

Works fine in Mozilla too. Get yerselves a decent browser. :p

[Dear Wendy]

i did an essay on existentialism and studied a bit of sartre for it...interesting stuff indeed...

I love existentialism.
This whole year in litt classes we have studied texts through the existentialistic point of view - as if it wasn't my favourite class already, it then got 10 times better.

[Jim V]

Age of Reason - one of my favourite books evar

[MrG]

ok, the error in html code has been found, whenever she gets chance to get to a uni computer she will change it

[Rich Kid]

I love existentialism.
I don't, I hate it God-lessness and its self-obsession with the individual.

[The_Grapes_of_Sloth]

I don't, I hate it God-lessness and its self-obsession with the individual.

If God gave us the gift of reason and the only logical conclusion we can reach with it is that there is no God and we must bring our own reason to the world, it's hardly our fault is it?

[Dear Wendy]

I don't, I hate it God-lessness and its self-obsession with the individual.

Kierkegaard?

[Dear Wendy]

I don't, I hate it God-lessness and its self-obsession with the individual.

Btw, you're a walking contradiction.

[Rich Kid]

If God gave us the gift of reason
God also gave us the gift of Faith, some have it, others haven't. I pray for those that haven't, its part of my Christian duty.

[The_Grapes_of_Sloth]

God also gave us the gift of Faith, some have it, others haven't.

Well if he only gave it to some people, he can hardly complain when some people don't believe now can he?

[Blagsta]

God also gave us the gift of Faith, some have it, others haven't. I pray for those that haven't, its part of my Christian duty.

Patronising twat.

[Jim V]

Patronising it may be, but calm down on the insult, though after an hour of digital / analogue sounds I'm almost swearing at people in the office ;)

[Blagsta]

Sorry, but I find it fairly insulting that some idiot thinks I need my soul saved. I don't, thanks.

[Jim V]

You know the rules, it's fine to be pissed off and it's fine to express it, but try not to throw in teh personal insults

[Yerascrote]

Kierkegaard?

:yes: there's a whole christain branch coming out of existentialism...i'd be more into nietzsche myself though...

[droid42]

God also gave us the gift of Faith, some have it, others haven't. I pray for those that haven't, its part of my Christian duty.

Nah, the gift of faith was given to people by a combination of a 2000+ yr-old compilation of heavily stylised and metaphorical accounts, and the telling of an ancient fairy-tale by their parents. The enlightened people lacking faith tend to get on fine through life without needing to believe in things for which there is zero objective evidence :p

Ian.

[Rich Kid]

Well if he only gave it to some people, he can hardly complain when some people don't believe now can he?
Some choose to ignore the gift, others grasp it with both hands, a bit like Life really.

blagsta: Patronising twat.
Oh blagsta, why are you so offensive? Never mind, as a Christian I forgive you.
I'll pray for your soul.

[Blagsta]

What you write is offensive to me.

[freethepeeps]

Oh blagsta, why are you so offensive? Never mind, as a Christian I forgive you.
I'll pray for your soul.

Scum!!!

[Rich Kid]

Both blagsta and ftp, you are in my prayers tonight. I hope tomorrow brings you another day of fulfilment and perhaps a kinder, more Christian take on people.

[freethepeeps]

Both blagsta and ftp, you are in my prayers tonight. I hope tomorrow brings you another day of fulfilment and perhaps a kinder, more Christian take on people.

Actually I don't want or need your prayers.

I was quoting you.

[Spliffie]

I don't, I hate it God-lessness and its self-obsession with the individual.

Sartre doubted the existence of God, but also described the lack of god as "embarassing" for humanity. "Hating" philosophical works on that basis is beyond foolish.

Not that it matters, you're a wind-up anyway.

[The_Grapes_of_Sloth]

Some choose to ignore the gift, others grasp it with both hands, a bit like Life really.

Begging your pardon but that's rubbish. Either you have faith or you don't. It can't be a choice. I don't choose to believe that the sky is blue or the grass is green, that is merely how it appears to me.

That the biblical God doesn't exist is of the same order to me as my belief that fairies don't exist (ie they might, but nothing I experience suggests that it is so).

[morrocan roll]

self-obsession with the individual.
very thatcherite then?
and may i ask what you base your faith on?

[Rich Kid]

and may i ask what you base your faith on?
God.

[Blagsta]

What do you mean by "God"?

[Rich Kid]

What do you mean by "God"?
The Almighty. He who made heaven and earth, and all that lives on earth. To believe in God you need Faith.

[Blagsta]

You haven't answered my question. What do you mean by "The Almighty"?

[Yerascrote]

You haven't answered my question. What do you mean by "The Almighty"?

an old man with a beard in the sky obviously...

[MrG]

wasnt he on the simpsons one time?

[Yerascrote]

wasnt he on the simpsons one time?

aye...he's one of my best mates...loves his whiskey and caviar...only on a wednesdays though...

[Rich Kid]

You haven't answered my question. What do you mean by "The Almighty"?
God.

[The_Grapes_of_Sloth]

God.

What? Yahweh?

Or is He calling himself Allah these days?

[Yerascrote]

God.

what you mean by god..a physical entity? a spiritual one? please elaborate i'm genuinely interested myself...

[morrocan roll]

God.
that isn't an answer.
i believe in fairies ...why? fairies ...duh!
faith should be based on knowledge or it is blind faith.
so what knowledge of which god do you have?

[Mad Mac]

i think i'll stay out of this one.

[Blagsta]

God.

You're going round in circles.

[BlackArab]

Age of Reason - one of my favourite books evar

Jim, Ive just started looking at some of the writings from this period, whats this one about?

[Jim V]

It's the first part of a trilogy by Satre; it's about a middle aged university professor who is thinking of joining the Spanish civil war. The book spends most of the time wandering with him through Paris as tries to avoid dealing with the crisis of his own making. The whole thing is on a very intimate level but with that sense that everything being discussed applies to everyone, every second.

[BlackArab]

Cheers, I'll add it to my list of summer reading.

[wheresmyplacebo]

'we dont like exitentialists here'

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