Depression & drug use

[labrini]

I was wondering does anyone here have depression or even manic depression and is a recreational drug user?
I have manic depression and I smoke weed on a daily basis. My doc has told me that I should stay away from it totally.This is difficult for me cuz a) I like it
b)my bf does it all the time.
Basically I was just wondering if anyone here does the same? I'm also interested to hear people's experiences on how drug use has affected them, i.e.worse or better.

[judi]

I was wondering does anyone here have depression or even manic depression and is a recreational drug user?
I have manic depression and I smoke weed on a daily basis. My doc has told me that I should stay away from it totally.This is difficult for me cuz a) I like it
b)my bf does it all the time.
Basically I was just wondering if anyone here does the same? I'm also interested to hear people's experiences on how drug use has affected them, i.e.worse or better.
well it makes me feel better i think people react differently to it i kno people who go all weird and paranoid wen they smoke it!!

[labrini]

am I to assume that you have some form of depression & use weed?

[budda]

Cannabis is a hallucinogen and its not always wise to use them if you have mental health issues.

If you are going to smoke it then maybe cut down and dont so often.

If its hard because your boyfriend smokes too, then maybe you can cut down together?

[nicebutdim23]

cannabis can make depression worse and can have long-term effects in pre-exisisting vulnerability to mental illness.

i have been told to stay well clear forever because of this...thats all i know,sorry!

[Martin_Bashir]

On balance its probably best that you stay away, cannabis does exaccerbate mental health problems in those who are predisposed to it...

If you're finding it hard to cut down, try avoiding situations in which you'd usually smoke, for example staying in in front of the tele...could consider doing something active together, which also is known to help with some mild-moderate depressive conditions...

[morrocan roll]

no i don't suffer from depression but am a long term cannabis user.
i know of two people who do suffer and both smoke.
they are as different as chalk and cheese and so it would seem are the effects.
one ...smokes and sits at home being depressed ...her attitude is monged out is better than depressed ...she does nothing ...goes nowhere ...looks a mess.
the other smokes only outside the house.
she goes for long walks in the woods on the beach ...along the clifftops smoking away. she is bright and bubbly and mostly positive. she doesn't smoke on a daily basis.
i'm convinced that the one who smokes daily is doing herself no favours ...in fact she can only get worse.
the other who smokes a couple of times a week and goes walking ...i'm convinced gets therapuetic value from the smoking and the way she smokes it ...outdoors.

[LadyJade]

My question to you would be - do you like it enough to put your longer term mental health at risk? That is a decision that only you can make. There is a bit of information on young people, cannabis and mental health (http://www.drugscope.co.uk/news_item.asp?a=3&intID=1165) on the Drugscope website.

[owura]

I was wondering does anyone here have depression or even manic depression and is a recreational drug user?
I have manic depression and I smoke weed on a daily basis. My doc has told me that I should stay away from it totally.This is difficult for me cuz a) I like it
b)my bf does it all the time.
Basically I was just wondering if anyone here does the same? I'm also interested to hear people's experiences on how drug use has affected them, i.e.worse or better.

Hi there,i also have depression,i don't use drugs but i think i am capable.I don't know it is killing me softly.i sometimes lock myself up for a whloe day.I wish i could have someone to talk to. :(

[Shogun]

It wouldn't be a wise idea to smoke cannabis daily if you have mental health problems, its use could make it worse.

[labrini]

Judging from your replies I take it that no one has depression and smokes weed??? If there is I ur feedback would be greatly appreciated.....

[melodie]

I was wondering does anyone here have depression or even manic depression and is a recreational drug user?
I have manic depression and I smoke weed on a daily basis. My doc has told me that I should stay away from it totally.This is difficult for me cuz a) I like it
b)my bf does it all the time.
Basically I was just wondering if anyone here does the same? I'm also interested to hear people's experiences on how drug use has affected them, i.e.worse or better.

I suffer from depression.... I am currently taking anti d's but they are not working to well any way, about a week ago someone suggested I smoke weed so I tried it and since then, i've been chilled!! It is really helping me!!

[melodie]

At the end of the day, it has made me feel better and it is alot safer than taking some anti d's. Cannabis is not a hallucinogen. I am nearly 20, and althogh I gave up for two years, I smoked it from the age of 14........ I went thru a stage where I kept getting paranoid, hence the reason I gave up but never have I had hallucinations, nor has anyone I know!!!!

[littlemissy]

Judging from your replies I take it that no one has depression and smokes weed??? If there is I ur feedback would be greatly appreciated.....

I'm sure there are some depressed people who have smoked weed in the past. However here is an article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4305783.stm) which tells you why you shouldn't. If you want to smoke weed whilst being depressed then you obviously don't respect your mental health and don't want to get better. Simple as.

*shrugs*

[littlemissy]

At the end of the day, it has made me feel better and it is alot safer than taking some anti d's. Cannabis is not a hallucinogen. I am nearly 20, and althogh I gave up for two years, I smoked it from the age of 14........ I went thru a stage where I kept getting paranoid, hence the reason I gave up but never have I had hallucinations, nor has anyone I know!!!!

You should go back to the docs and say "these ADs aren't helping me. what are my other options" as smoking weed certainly won't make you feel better in the long term. It is jeopardizing your mental health.

Also, I wouldn't tell Bong that he is wrong. He certainly knows his stuff when it comes to drugs :|

[melodie]

You should go back to the docs and say "these ADs aren't helping me. what are my other options" as smoking weed certainly won't make you feel better in the long term. It is jeopardizing your mental health.

Also, I wouldn't tell Bong that he is wrong. He certainly knows his stuff when it comes to drugs :|

Obviously not!!!! My bfs mother has been smoking it for many years and it is alot safer than being on anti d's, it has always helped her and it helps me....... people react to things differently....... Alcohol is alot more dangerous...... yay lets ban it!!!!!

[Pan_chan_boo]

I was wondering does anyone here have depression or even manic depression and is a recreational drug user?
I have manic depression and I smoke weed on a daily basis. My doc has told me that I should stay away from it totally.This is difficult for me cuz a) I like it
b)my bf does it all the time.
Basically I was just wondering if anyone here does the same? I'm also interested to hear people's experiences on how drug use has affected them, i.e.worse or better.


Iv suffered from depression for bout 5 years, and only in the past year (when I started smoking weed) have I been any better, Its only on nights when Im stoned that I dont pick and scratch myself to bits. Cannabis helps to combat depression, just like it helps relieve migranes and nausia etc. But like others have said it can affect different people differently, personaly Id listen to my body rather than my doc if he told me that. But it also depends on what you smoke. Me, id stay away from soap or rocky, what ever you call it, and only smoke the bud or leaves. :thumb:

[littlemissy]

Obviously not!!!! My bfs mother has been smoking it for many years and it is alot safer than being on anti d's, it has always helped her and it helps me....... people react to things differently....... Alcohol is alot more dangerous...... yay lets ban it!!!!!

Do you have to use "........" all the time. It hurts my brain.

Why not search all the different articles (even here on thesite) about mental health and cannabis use. Here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4305783.stm) is one, LadyJade has told us already in this thread about 2, use Google and stuff too. You will find that SMOKING WEED IS NOT ADVISABLE TO THOSE DEPRESSED. In fact, there is even a thread in the drugs forum about it (http://vbulletin.thesite.org.uk/showthread.php?t=79780)! Ok, it is specifically about Es but it mentions cannabis too. So your boyfriend's mother is actually doing more harm than good in the long term. It may be helping in the short term, but in the long term it isn't.

Also, cannabis is definitely a hallucinogenic (sp) as shown by google. (http://www.nevdgp.org.au/geninf/adf/hdayha.htm)

EDIT: also, I never mentioned anywhere about banning cannibas or anything else. In fact, I don't think it should be banned. But that is beside the point here and now. Fact of the matter is that you should not smoke weed whilst you have mental problems. Simple as.

[melodie]

Well, as I have said, his mother has been smoking it for yrs, 25 years in fact and she is completely fine!!! Many people smoke it. It is only harmful if smoked excessivly, so I smoke a joint a day, thats just like swallowing 1 anti d a day. People who use it all the time are causing damage to their bodys but I and many others use it for medicinal use. It is used as pain relief!! I know its not an hallucinogen, I smoke it and so do most of my friends...... none of us had had any affects such as these!!!! It helps me, it may help others and some it won't work at all, it is more harmful to drink and smoke ciggarettes!! I will not back down on this one!!!

[littlemissy]

Well, as I have said, his mother has been smoking it for yrs, 25 years in fact and she is completely fine!!! Many people smoke it. It is only harmful if smoked excessivly, so I smoke a joint a day, thats just like swallowing 1 anti d a day. People who use it all the time are causing damage to their bodys but I and many others use it for medicinal use. It is used as pain relief!! I know its not an hallucinogen, I smoke it and so do most of my friends...... none of us had had any affects such as these!!!! It helps me, it may help others and some it won't work at all, it is more harmful to drink and smoke ciggarettes!! I will not back down on this one!!!

Did you even look at the links I posted? Even if you won't back down, you are still wrong. Do some fecking research ffs.


:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[Pan_chan_boo]

Well, as I have said, his mother has been smoking it for yrs, 25 years in fact and she is completely fine!!! Many people smoke it. It is only harmful if smoked excessivly, so I smoke a joint a day, thats just like swallowing 1 anti d a day. People who use it all the time are causing damage to their bodys but I and many others use it for medicinal use. It is used as pain relief!! I know its not an hallucinogen, I smoke it and so do most of my friends...... none of us had had any affects such as these!!!! It helps me, it may help others and some it won't work at all, it is more harmful to drink and smoke ciggarettes!! I will not back down on this one!!!


dont worry, im with you all the way on this one, if they can let kids of 10 smoke ciggarettes, why cant they publish the true properties of cannabis?

[melodie]

"Cannabis (marijuana): In small quantities, cannabis is a depressant drug that slows down the body's systems. Very strong cannabis preparations or larger quantities of cannabis can cause mild hallucinogenic effects. These can lead to anxiety or panic in the user."

But it is not really hallucinogenic.... the only way it could be is if other fotms of drugs are mixed in and it states 'mild'....... so the point is, this statement was not very useful!!!

[littlemissy]

"Cannabis (marijuana): In small quantities, cannabis is a depressant drug that slows down the body's systems. Very strong cannabis preparations or larger quantities of cannabis can cause mild hallucinogenic effects. These can lead to anxiety or panic in the user."

But it is not really hallucinogenic.... the only way it could be is if other fotms of drugs are mixed in and it states 'mild'....... so the point is, this statement was not very useful!!!

Surely if it causes "mild hallucinogenic effects" it is a hallucinogenic?!? :banghead:

Anyway, I am done with this thread because obviously I am talking to a complete retard who doesn't seem to get it. And doesn't even look at the links posted for her own information so that she can be more clued up about a subject before spouting off on one. You are ruining your own mental health. Oh well.

[melodie]

[quotw] dont worry, im with you all the way on this one, if they can let kids of 10 smoke ciggarettes, why cant they publish the true properties of cannabis?[quote]

Thank you, at least someone agrees......

[quote]Did you even look at the links I posted? Even if you won't back down, you are still wrong. Do some fecking research ffs. [quote]

I looked, I AM 20 YRS OLD, I HAVE SMOKED IT.... I have read up on it, listened to peoples views. only people I will listen to is people who have experienced these drugs not people who think they are know it all's because they have been told everything on the t.v or in some book...... Do u believe everything you see and read?????

[melodie]

Surely if it causes "mild hallucinogenic effects" it is a hallucinogenic?!? :banghead:

Anyway, I am done with this thread because obviously I am talking to a complete retard who doesn't seem to get it. And doesn't even look at the links posted for her own information so that she can be more clued up about a subject before spouting off on one. You are ruining your own mental health. Oh well.

roflmao...... Sorry but if you mix lsd with cannabis, then its an hallucinogen. Cannabis soley is NOT. I am certainly not a retard. I have experience of this....... I am helping my mental health!!!! It relaxes me, without it I would be a state.

[littlemissy]

Do u believe everything you see and read?????

If I did I would be believing the pile of crap you seem to be spouting off about just now. Luckily that is not the case.

And if you reseached this topic properly you will find a hundred and one different sources telling you that it isn't a good idea to do cannibas whilst mentally ill. It may provide a short term solution/fix but in the long term it is doing more damage.

Oh, and before you say anything, I have done cannibas, i know others who have too. I am not just a mousey little retard sitting behind my books on this ocassion.

Jeez Louise :banghead:

[littlemissy]

roflmao...... Sorry but if you mix lsd with cannabis, then its an hallucinogen. Cannabis soley is NOT. I am certainly not a retard. I have experience of this....... I am helping my mental health!!!! It relaxes me, without it I would be a state.

OK then. Whatever you say :yeees:

And I am certainly done with this farcical thread now. I have more important things to do that listen to this garbage. I just hope that people don't take what you say literally and do some own research of their own before deciding how important their mental health is to them.

[melodie]

OK then. Whatever you say :yeees:

And I am certainly done with this farcical thread now. I have more important things to do that listen to this garbage. I just hope that people don't take what you say literally and do some own research of their own before deciding how important their mental health is to them.

My life I am finding this all so hilarious my bf says 'U have not got a clue about what yr talking about! Do you and ur friends have mental issues because of smoking it???? Did u hallucinate????
I really cannot believe you have smoked it. Maybe you had a drag of a spliff and thought.... 'omg its bad for me, i'm seeing things' yeah, o.k hun

[littlemissy]

My life I am finding this all so hilarious my bf says 'U have not got a clue about what yr talking about!

Yes, because you on the other hand are so well informed on the issue :/


Do you and ur friends have mental issues because of smoking it???? Did u hallucinate????
I really cannot believe you have smoked it. Maybe you had a drag of a spliff and thought.... 'omg its bad for me, i'm seeing things' yeah, o.k hun

Yes dear. Don't go making assumptions on myself or my friends. You don't know me.

[morrocan roll]

cannabis is a halucinagen ...sorry but thats fact. it doesn't mean you'll see pink elephants and flying saucers though.

cannabis can be used to treat depression and emotional problems.but there are many problems with self medication ...especialy with cannabis.
it might well be the very substance person A has been searching for ...it may be the substance that tips person B over the edge.
how many of you know about dosage?
it's easy to roll a spliff and get high ...but getting high is not a good idea with depression.
i often smoke ten pence worth at a time and over a twelve hour period smoke a quids worth ...thats for controlled pain relief and slight mood enhancement.
how many of you can honestly say you would smoke such small amounts?
getting high is not relieving depression ...it is exactly the same as seeking relief from a bottle.
the root problem has been masked for a little while longer ...and still not dealt with.
getting high is a way of escaping your true feelings ...for a while.
heres where dependancy kicks in.
dosage is very difficult for medicinal purposes ...a fivers worth may well make you feel great today ...a fivers worth from the ame bag tomorrow may well make you feel very edgy and troubled.
the only safe way to self medicate with cannabis is to do it with and learn from someone very experienced.
but getting high ...is not treating depression and may well backfire.

[ruby_soho]

My life I am finding this all so hilarious my bf says 'U have not got a clue about what yr talking about!

Oh right so thats it then, Little Missy must be wrong.

[1983]

Melodie, you're an idiot.

You're spouting out all the reasons my boyfriend smoked weed and he's had a mental break down. Cannabis DOES NOT HELP. It's a quick fix, and you're taking all the help you can for granted.

It's like booze, it's a depressant. If you're already feeling crap, and you get plastered, it'll make you have a giggle but eventually bring you down.

This has happened to my boyfriend, and to see people like you who are all "OMG YAY FOR CANNABIS!" Make me fucking sick. You haven't helped my boyfriend one bit. You're such a fucking cabbage in denial. It's not going to help you in the long run, cannabis takes forever to get out your system and eventually will bring you down 890432849034 times worse than whatever you have before.

I've seen it happen in the past month happen to my boyfriend and he wishes for the life of him he could see what he sees now to straighten everything out. He doesn't know whether he's coming or going, whether he wants to be here or not. He doesn't have a fucking clue who I am half the time.

You have been given the correct prescription and you're giving two fingers up to the help that's given to you. You're an ungrateful bitch. I'd LOVE to have my boyfriend right as rain and appreciate the help he's getting but it's only been three days since he broke down.

He's dying for a joint as his paranoia and anxiety is at the highest just now, he can't sleep. He woke me up around three times last night all different attitudes to how he feels about his life. Happy, mixed, hopeless. He NEEDS help.

If you know your ADs weren't working then you should have went back to your GP and sorted your shit out rather than praising something which is illegal and completely useless in the long run.

You're so blind.

[Pan_chan_boo]

Christ how much did your bf smoke?!

Surely his condition is not JUST cannabis based?!

[1983]

Twice a week for around three years, but he already had clinical depression and that was his escape mechanism.

It's not, but it's added to it because everything has just crumbled away from him because his paranoia through his cannabis addiction didn't help. He lost his stoner mates, he's lost his job. He feels he can't trust anyone at the moment.

It's horrible to see him like this, and cannabis did NOT help. He's beyond insomnia it's unreal. He's walking around like a zombie and slurs his words all the time. He doesn't pay attention to you, and gets defensive if you say something which has nothing to do with him whatsoever, but has happened to him at some point of his life or whatever.

[littlemissy]

Christ how much did your bf smoke?!

Surely his condition is not JUST cannabis based?!

Could that come across any more insensitive. Geez.

It probably wasn't the only thing that caused his mental breakdown. There were probably underlying factors there too. However, Becky's point was that smoking cannibas did not help his situation one single little bit.

Which is the point we have been trying to drive home here, to no avail it seems.

[Pan_chan_boo]

Could that come across any more insensitive. Geez.

It probably wasn't the only thing that caused his mental breakdown. There were probably underlying factors there too. However, Becky's point was that smoking cannibas did not help his situation one single little bit.

Which is the point we have been trying to drive home here, to no avail it seems.


Im sorry that it was insensitive, but im afraid I cannot give out sympathy to someone who I dont know when I cant feel sympathy or sorrorow for those that I do know.

No, cannabis does not help in THAT situation, but it DOES help in others.
There are many things that will not help her bf, I just do not see why so much emphasis is put on cannabis considering the fact that it can help others.

Yes she has seen proof that it damages, but I have seen proof that it helps.

[1983]

Yes she has seen proof that it damages, but I have seen proof that it helps.

I'm all for cannabis when I see it helping people with MS etc, but not mental health. :|

[Pan_chan_boo]

I'm all for cannabis when I see it helping people with MS etc, but not mental health. :|

Im sorry but I have do dissagree, Its improved my mental health alot, granted I wasnt exactly someone with multiple personalities (or at least I dont think so) but at least iv stopped most of the blood shed and I can smile alot more.

[littlemissy]

Im sorry but I have do dissagree, Its improved my mental health alot, granted I wasnt exactly someone with multiple personalities (or at least I dont think so) but at least iv stopped most of the blood shed and I can smile alot more.

We'll see what your mental health is like in the future then.

More often than not it is long term damage and it can't be seen straightaway. MR used a good example. It is like hitting the bottle. At the time it may seem like a good idea, drinking your sorrows away, but (a) look at the damage it is doing to your liver that you will notice later and life and (b) it is not solving the root of the problem. In order to combat depression etc you can't just mask it up with drugs, you have to work out what is causing it.

[morrocan roll]

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[Mist]

My life I am finding this all so hilarious my bf says 'U have not got a clue about what yr talking about! Do you and ur friends have mental issues because of smoking it???? Did u hallucinate????
I really cannot believe you have smoked it. Maybe you had a drag of a spliff and thought.... 'omg its bad for me, i'm seeing things' yeah, o.k hun

Sounds to me like it's your boyfriend who has not got a clue. let's look at what he said


Do you and ur friends have mental issues because of smoking it????


Yes, it makes you less mentally active, and more of a cabbage. Still, if that's your desired outcome....


Did u hallucinate????


Occasionally. I'd say if you haven't experienced an hallucination then you've probably not smoked enough of the right stuff.

What was the point of this thread?

Someone wants to get better? use the prescribed drugs, and not the wacky backy.

[Pan_chan_boo]

We'll see what your mental health is like in the future then.

More often than not it is long term damage and it can't be seen straightaway. MR used a good example. It is like hitting the bottle. At the time it may seem like a good idea, drinking your sorrows away, but (a) look at the damage it is doing to your liver that you will notice later and life and (b) it is not solving the root of the problem. In order to combat depression etc you can't just mask it up with drugs, you have to work out what is causing it.


I think you'll find cannabis and alcohol are two very different things with very different side effects. You cannot base the future of my mental health on the drugs that I use when my environment is bound to change aswell as my social status and the actions of those around me. Like many I have seen people grow old, using cannabis throughout their life without it affecting their mental health, nor their physical health.

Personaly I prefer to live my life how I wish, and its nice to know your wishing bad health upon me. I prefer being the improved person that I am from touching cannabis, rather than the person I was who didnt appreciate her parents, nor worked hard for anything. Funnily enough cannabis has helped me settle down and fend for myself rather than relying on others to spoon feed me. Maybe you should smoke a bit and open your mind to the world around you.

Im looking forward to my future mental health, thank you very much.

[melodie]

this is how and why I smoke weed, I get thru a tenth a week, thats £5 worth.... I smoke 1 spliff before I go to sleep and I wake up the next morning feeling great...... I also suffer from ibs and it has been helping that really well, better than any medication a docter has given me.... (ibs = irriatable bowel syndrome)
I do not smoke it to get cabbaged thank u very much. I have a child to think of.

[1983]

I have a child to think of.

:yeees:

[1983]

I also suffer from ibs and it has been helping that really well, better than any medication a docter has given me.... (ibs = irriatable bowel
syndrome)

You know what you do for your IBS? You get onto a forum for fellow IBS sufferers and you relate and try and help yourself without using something illegal. Change your diet, your lifestyle, etc.

[melodie]

I do not need to change my diet as I eat heathily, and I excercise regulary.my ibs is stressed related. and the :yeees: face, did not impress me to much.My son is very important to me. and quite frankly,1 other thing i've noticed.....everyone seems to give me grief with my opinions, yet if another person backs my reply they don't get the grief!!! hmmmmm, wot is this lets give someone grief.... Oh I know,let it be melodie...... well FU

[1983]

I do not need to change my diet as I eat heathily, and I excercise regulary.my ibs is stressed related. and the :yeees: face, did not impress me to much.My son is very important to me. and quite frankly,1 other thing i've noticed.....everyone seems to give me grief with my opinions, yet if another person backs my reply they don't get the grief!!! hmmmmm, wot is this lets give someone grief.... Oh I know,let it be melodie...... well FU


I'll :yeees: all I want. That's MY opinion.

If you're stressed use the NHS accordingly, don't risk your freedom over a few spliffs here and there. Be a Mum. Set a fucking example.

[melodie]

Grow up girl. It helps me relax, I suffer from panic attacks it fucking helps!!! I am being a mum...it's a 24/7 job. Docters smoke weed, polititions smoke weed and so do police officers.Risking my freedom...... they cannot do anything for a tenth.... its for personal use and not enough to convict. And the 'thats my opinion' remark, GO AND EXPERIENCE LIFE thats my opinion.

[Mist]

Grow up girl. It helps me relax, I suffer from panic attacks it fucking helps!!! I am being a mum...it's a 24/7 job. Docters smoke weed, polititions smoke weed and so do police officers.Risking my freedom...... they cannot do anything for a tenth.... its for personal use and not enough to convict. And the 'thats my opinion' remark, GO AND EXPERIENCE LIFE thats my opinion.


You're labouring under the misunderstanding that it's only you here who has already experienced life. Comments like that just make you appear stupid and give your argument even less weight really.

If you become a stoned out druggie and start to neglect your kid, then it's you who will miss out. I'm sure noone else really cares what you do, though.


People are here attempting to answer the original question detailing what they think of drug use + depression. Surely it is not unexpected that people will a) have different opinions to you and b) will disagree that you should use recreational drugs when the doc has specifically said to stop doing so.

[melodie]

I will not and never have become a stoned out druggie. I smoke a bit at night that is all and it helps me greatly. If the girl wants to stop, then thats her choice, I do not listen to docters opinions mostly, i've met docters and counsellers who think its o.k to smoke cannabis Oh and before any 1 starts with the anti d's and that I should get counselling...... I have been on 5 different kinds of anti d's since I was 15, I have counselling once a week and have been for 6 months. You have no idea of my issues and how much of a calmer person i've been!! Everyone likes the change in me since I started smoking weed because I am calm and not stressing.

[Olive]

it might well be the very substance person A has been searching for ...it may be the substance that tips person B over the edge.
how many of you know about dosage?

it's not very often i quote mr. roll, but i believe we may have stumbled across his specialist chosen subject.

the above is very important. it might be that some people find that smoking helps them. no one's denying that. but speak to any mental health professional, and they will tell you to avoid it like the plague.

why? it's not cause it's illegal, and they have to. it's because it can be dangerous. it can dangerous because it is NOT controlled. you don't know exactly what you're smoking, you can't be sure if it contains anything it shouldn't, and you don't know how potent it is.

i'm sure there are lots of people who swear by it, and fair fucks to them, but you should NEVER recommend it to anyone. cause they could be the one who reacts badly to it. and then you have those consequences on your hands.

oh, and my 'bf' says 'listen to kaff cause she's always right'. ho ho.

[morrocan roll]

i have to come to the defence of melodie here ...it's getting out of hand.
she has stated she is not a monged out druggy and has no wish to be.
she's a mum ...cos she's a mum she gets frowned upon for using something ...quite sensivbly by the sound of things ...which should not be illegal anyway ...according to most health proffesionals and even the chief constables of the land ...oh and the liberal party.
i'm a parent and grandparent ...i believe the western world would improve massively in it's weekend behaviour if more people smoked and less people drank alcohol.

[melodie]

:D Thank u. Just getting infuriated with the fact that I am being made out to be an idiot because of my own opinion!!!

[morrocan roll]

:D Thank u. Just getting infuriated with the fact that I am being made out to be an idiot because of my own opinion!!!
wait till the mothers union crowd get here!!!!!!!!!!
you see the hypocrisy of it all is ...if your a mum your only allowed alcohol ...

[Mushy24]

I was wondering does anyone here have depression or even manic depression and is a recreational drug user?
I have manic depression and I smoke weed on a daily basis. My doc has told me that I should stay away from it totally.This is difficult for me cuz a) I like it
b)my bf does it all the time.
Basically I was just wondering if anyone here does the same? I'm also interested to hear people's experiences on how drug use has affected them, i.e.worse or better.

I have to say that I haven't used drugs in years, however, my ex used to smoke a lot of weed everyday. When we first started dating he was an occasional smoker, as time when on he increasingly smoked more and more until he was smoking a blunt about five times a day. I saw his personality change, he became very depressed, lazy and eventually turned into an emotional mess...... this is why he is now my ex. I'm not saying that this happens to all people, I only know what I saw with my own eyes. I absolutely can't smoke - it doesn't do anything good for me, personally I'd rather drink a few beers any day. But - My advise, I'd cut out the smoking for a while and see if it helps. If not try thearpy.

[spanner]

The thing about drugs is that no two people react to them in the same way. Melodie - I think the reason people are being so aggressively anti you smoking weed is because they know that it CAN lead to increased anxiety and paranoia. On the other hand, it CAN also help to relax you - as you have noticed so far. The difficulty is when one turns to the other without you realising. Just try to keep a grip on the situation - it is incredibly easy for dependency to sneak up on you.
:)

[Pan_chan_boo]

why is it that the idea of a mother using drugs instantly turns into bad parenting?

I know of parents who are drug users, parents who drink, and parents who do neither. And believe me, the drug using parent is the best damn parent iv ever seen and she has an amazing daughter who never goes without. Yes I know of terrible parents who are drug users, but to me they are just terrible parents, without drugs they would be out doing something else.

I love and hate these arguements, they are forever endless, like the arguements of science and religion. I love them for they are interesting and you can learn alot, you can really open your mind to others ideas. The bad point? Those who are ignorant, listen to no one but themselves and refuse the ideas that come from the other side. :(

[budda]

You should go back to the docs and say "these ADs aren't helping me. what are my other options" as smoking weed certainly won't make you feel better in the long term. It is jeopardizing your mental health.

Also, I wouldn't tell Bong that he is wrong. He certainly knows his stuff when it comes to drugs :|

Thanks, and yes, cannabis is a hallucinogen.

[morrocan roll]

Thanks, and yes, cannabis is a hallucinogen.
but diesel boot polish and goat shit isn't.

[melodie]

If anyone has read the thread I posted, then that is why i smoke weed!!!