UN peacekeepers might go to Lebanon

[budda]

Jack Straw has warned Syria that they might become a 'pariah state' (I thought they already were) if they dont pull their troops from Lebanon, in exchange UN troops might go in.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4317473.stm

[Clandestine]

LOL. Jack Straw supports the biggest pariah state of modern age already, and its NOT Syria. The hypocrisy of the man is astounding.

[Aladdin]

The more I think of it, the more I'm convinced Rafik Hariri was bumped off by the West.

[Clandestine]

Once you connect all the statements, acknowledgements and documented details of the PNAC agenda, those by whom it was designed (largely dual Israeli/US citizens and members of the Bush administration or immediate advisors thereto), and those whose interests it directly seeks to advance (again US/Israel), the fingerprint of CIA/Mossad contrivance are clearly seen all over the Hariri assassination.

All that was needed was just enough media collusion (regularly given by CNN and other major international broadcasters including the BBC) to causually dismiss any serious focus on the very likely involvement of those two historically interventionistic agencies (especially in Lebannon) and concentrate on incrementally moving from "suggesting" the possibility of Syrian complicity to simply regurgitating the denunciations against syria by those who always stood to gain the most out of the troop withdrawals.

Let us remember which countries are already illegally occupying two sovereign nations in the region and manipulating the internal political makeup of those nations to their own advantage (and that of their profiteering industries).

Plausible deniability works only when the public sheepishly allows itself to view every event as some unrelated, disconnected phenomenon rather than part of a concerted and interconnected agenda as they truly are at the level of geostrategic planning.

[Man Of Kent]

*yawns*

It's all a CIA conspiracy I tell you...

[Clandestine]

Oh yes, of course MoK, the CIA certainly doesnt have any documented history of covert ops throughout the middle east and latin america to lend any credence to such a suggestion. Of course Washington pumps billions into their budget just so they can sit around playing tiddlywinks.

Please, you can't be so naive about power politics to be so continually dismissive when CIA or Mossad are mentioned.

Face it my friend, Geo-politics IS conspiracy. Why do you think the bulk of the planet's wealth and power now resides in the hands of such a relative few? Gee couldnt be closed door planning and plenty of plausible deniability to cover the real activities shaping world events now could it. Nahhhh. :rolleyes:

[Man Of Kent]

Ever heard of McCarthyism, Clandestine? [/rhetorical question]

Sounds to me like you want to find "Reds under Beds".

I'm not completely dismissive, but I'm not carrying out a witchunt either.

[Clandestine]

Im not carrying out a witchhunt either, but thats precisely what the US and Israel are doing when mere days after the event they already PROCLAIM Syrias guilt for the assassination in the most transparent contrivance to further their already ongoing efforts in the UNSC to geta resolution forcing Syrian troops withdrawal.

What better a contrivance to incite the lebanese people than to utilise our (contrary to the media-fed PR of recent years) quite effective intelligence agencies (and indeed few if any can beat the Mossad for assassination) to kill off a most beloved popular Lebanese leader and get them screaming in the streets for the TV cameras.

Perhaps youve also forgotten that Lebannon has a long precedent as a staging ground for CIA/Mossad activity from the 60's, 70's and early 80's. Those who stand to benefit most are those who are already perpetrating their agenda openly elsewhere in the middle east and who made much show of including Syria in the "axis of evil". But nooo, the CIA/Mossad couldnt possibly be involved cause none of the mainstream news programs even suggest such (surprise surprise).

Somehow I expected much more rational from you than the dismissive response you gave above. But nevermind, whether you choose to consider the covert illegalities being perpetrated by the PNAC hand in hand with their openly militant acts makes little difference to the fact that they ARE being carried out as surely as they have been from Chile to Panama to Haiti to the Middle and Far East in past decades.

Syria had no cause to assassinate Hariri and weaken their grip on the country and certainly didnt stand to gain from it as has been clearly evidenced. Israel and the US though have clear benefits from his death.

[Renzo]

Could this give Bush and his friends the excuse to go into Syria I wonder.

[Clandestine]

Invasion is always a possibility, although by manipulating events in this manner, they incite the lebanese like sheep to rise up and generate the necessary backlash which could achieve the same ends via political isolation and pressure.

In the end though, those truly criminally responsible remain above the rule of law and wholly unaccountable.

[Dear Wendy]

The replies in this thread scare the shit out of me.

[Clandestine]

The truth is frightening Jacq. Perhaps you'd best go bury your head in the soothing, sanitised PR of the Jerusalem Post.

[Dear Wendy]

The truth is frightening Jacq. Perhaps you'd best go bury your head in the soothing, sanitised PR of the Jerusalem Post.

I wasn't talking to you. I was talking about you :)

[BlackArab]

Why does Syria need troops in Lebanon?

[Clandestine]

That was obvious as ever Jacq, nothing surprising there.

BA, Syria entered Lebanon to stop the civil war that was ripping the nation apart and creating instability on its border. It remained there to rightly prevent Israel and the US from further manipulating the ethnic divisions and maintaining their covert base of operations on Syria's doorstep.

Syria is of course no angel, no country or government is However, Syria does not have a ideological-driven aspirations as Israel has had since its inception (Greater Israel) for control (directly or indirectly) of lands formerly ascribed to the biblical hebrews (which includes portions of Syria.)

Besides, for the US and Israel of all nations to be pointing the finger at Syria and demanding troops withdrawals whilst themselves having occupied and incrementally stolen others' lands through occupation, military expansionism and disregard for international law (as in the case with Israel) or illegal invasion and planned permanent occupation of a country which did not nor could not pursue outward aggression (as in the case of the US in Iraq) is the height of hypocrisy and arrogance.

[Dear Wendy]

Since I have your attention, I ask of you to respond to my question in the other thread :)

[Clandestine]

I wouldnt say you had my attention, merely my acknowledgement of your penchant for ignoring any possible complicity of Israel in any ME problems.

Nevertheless, to which question are you referring?

[Man Of Kent]

BA, Syria entered Lebanon to stop the civil war that was ripping the nation apart and creating instability on its border. It remained there to rightly prevent Israel and the US from further manipulating the ethnic divisions and maintaining their covert base of operations on Syria's doorstep.


Anyone else spot a contradiction?

[Dear Wendy]

Anyone else spot a contradiction?

La la la la la...

Clandestine supports the exact same things he condemns so badly, as long as it's the right people doing it :)

[duvdevan]

Once you connect all the statements, acknowledgements and documented details of the PNAC agenda, those by whom it was designed (largely dual Israeli/US citizens and members of the Bush administration or immediate advisors thereto),

You would think that people who are against the so-called occupation of the west bank/gaza by Israel would be against syrian occupation of lebanon.

Proof for Mossad/CIA involvement in the killing of an anti-syrian politician...

Name some dual Israeli/US citizens in the Bush administration.

Yeah right.

[BlackArab]

What chance of a ban on countries occupying others? :yeees:

[Aladdin]

so-called occupation of the west bank/gaza Do you think the term occupation is not appropriate then?

What would be your choice of words?

[Aladdin]

You would think that people who are against the so-called occupation of the west bank/gaza by Israel would be against syrian occupation of lebanon.
You would also think that the country that has illegally invaded and occupied more sovereign nations than any other since WWII would be very ill suited indeed to demand other nations end their occupations.

And yet...

Bush demands Syrians end their occupation of Lebanon (http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1173425,00.html)

You have to despair at the hypocrite two-faced cunts. :rolleyes: