Why is it always the sun?

[MrG]

Story (http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1293548.html?menu=)

[Indrid Cold]

Why is it always the Sun?
Maybe they're trying to say "Sex before marriage is bad, look what could happen to you"? :p

[Kermit]

Because The Sun is mysognystic scum.

Though I love how confused it's moral code is: paedophilia is wrong, saying the word "tit" is wrong, but it's perfectly acceptable to show the said appendages of a 16-year-old girl in full naked glorious technicolour.

[stargalaxy]

Nice to see that The Sun is as shite as ever.

[Smash]

You can say what you like about the sun, but I do like their crossword.
Daily Star has the greatest problem page, however.

[BlackArab]

Arguing with the Mrs about breaking up, then letting her tie you up naked. :nervous:

Obviously one of their more regular readers.

[stargalaxy]

You can say what you like about the sun, but I do like their crossword. Daily Star has the greatest problem page, however. You clearly don't remember when it was revealed a few years ago that some of the "problems" on that page are invented. As for The Sun crossword, :lol: .

[BlackArab]

You clearly don't remember when it was revealed a few years ago that some of the "problems" on that page are invented. As for The Sun crossword, :lol: .

Common trick of the trade, you would be surprised.

[stargalaxy]

Common trick of the trade, you would be surprised. I wouldn't! Usually when I read problem pages, all I do is laugh.

[Makoto]

The Sun, great stories. they have done quite a lot of good as well with their campaigns.

[stargalaxy]

The Sun, great stories. they have done quite a lot of good as well with their campaigns. The fact it's the best-selling "newspaper" in the country... I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

[Smash]

when I read problem pages, all I do is laugh.

Exactly. :D

Tabloid snobbery.
I do love it.

[Aladdin]

The Sun, great stories. they have done quite a lot of good as well with their campaigns.
Yes, a lot of good indeed.

Like driving sex offenders underground, encouraging hate mobs and causing innocent men to be attacked and persecuted by ignorant fucks who can't even tell the difference between a paediatrician and a paedophile.

[Man Of Kent]

causing innocent men to be attacked and persecuted by ignorant fucks who can't even tell the difference between a paediatrician and a paedophile.

That was the News of the World, can't you tell the difference, ignorant fuck :p

Seriously, if anyone reads The Sun for it's newsworthyness then they need help. Sadly I don't think our mental health service could cope.

[Aladdin]

You're right, it was started by the Screws. However the S*n has since copied its sister "paper" and done some more naming and shaming of its own.

Many other things come to mind... Hillsborough comments, "gay mafia" remarks... A very proud paper, that.

[AverageJoe87]

The funniest thing is though, and I'm not being mean to labourers, all I see at lunchtime is lads wearing mucky overalls and fred perry jumpers, burberry hat perched proudly on bonce. And they have either the Sun or the Star in their hands.

When you're in the kitchen of an estate house (this one isn't so common, there are a lot of genuinely good people that live in council houses :blush: ), there's always a Sun/Star on the table, along with those shitty magazines that reveal storylines to soaps, and more tosser magazines (with their crackpot photographers that stalk celebrities - fuck the hell off), etc etc. Ridiculous!

[Kermit]

The Scum excelled itself with the story about the army advertising in gay magazines: they did a spoof of the Kitchener poster, with a limp wrist.

I would suggest compulsory euthanasia for anyone who buys that shitrag. Anyone who works for it, well, death's too good for them.

[lukesh]

Oh and the "Lovely" Mirror is an angel right? Get a grip... these papers are tabloids not political papers. get that fixed in your head! Who cares what the tabloids publish.... they are there to cheer us up and take us away from the bad bad world. :yum:

[lukesh]

The Scum excelled itself with the story about the army advertising in gay magazines: they did a spoof of the Kitchener poster, with a limp wrist.

The Sun wasn't homophobic at all in their reporting about the Gay poster! Neither did they critisise it.
Even Little John today said he supported gays joining thearmy in his column.

[Kermit]

The Sun wasn't homophobic at all in their reporting about the Gay poster!

No, of course not.

Of course they didn't make a cheap jibe using a tired old clice.

I'm amazed you aren't offended by it, tbh.

I hate The Sun because it's paedophilic, mostly.

[lukesh]

No, of course not.

Of course they didn't make a cheap jibe using a tired old clice.

I'm amazed you aren't offended by it, tbh.

I hate The Sun because it's paedophilic, mostly.
I wasn't offended by it. If we were offended by the slightest thing we might as well give up!

Paefophillic... lol... it does hate paedophiles but that goes with many many people.

[Kermit]

It hates paedophiles and child abuse so much it shows pictures of naked young girls.

Hypocrisy, what's that?

[lukesh]

It hates paedophiles and child abuse so much it shows pictures of naked young girls.

Hypocrisy, what's that?
the "babes" are usualy 21 years of age. hardly paedophillia is it?

[morrocan roll]

The funniest thing is though, and I'm not being mean to labourers, all I see at lunchtime is lads wearing mucky overalls and fred perry jumpers, burberry hat perched proudly on bonce. And they have either the Sun or the Star in their hands.

When you're in the kitchen of an estate house (this one isn't so common, there are a lot of genuinely good people that live in council houses :blush: ), there's always a Sun/Star on the table, along with those shitty magazines that reveal storylines to soaps, and more tosser magazines (with their crackpot photographers that stalk celebrities - fuck the hell off), etc etc. Ridiculous!
i wanted to get angry about your post here but sadly ...there is so much truth in it!

[BumbleBee]

the "babes" are usualy 21 years of age. hardly paedophillia is it?

Not always. There was a girl who was in the year below me at school in The Sun bearing all when she had just turned 17 and they claimed she was older.

[Kermit]

Not always. There was a girl who was in the year below me at school in The Sun bearing all when she had just turned 17 and they claimed she was older.
Thank you.

The Sun only decries paedos because it's run by one and the editor is married to one.

[BlackArab]

Not always. There was a girl who was in the year below me at school in The Sun bearing all when she had just turned 17 and they claimed she was older.

And still too young to buy porn.

[joshmeister]

'The Sun' is one of the best newspapers and has the best journalists working for them; well thats what my media studies teacher says :p

I read that story todat - it was just to fill up a wee gap in the newspaper, and i rather know about that than what Beckhams next childs name gonna be ;)

[morrocan roll]

I read that story todat - it was just to fill up a wee gap in the newspaper, and i rather know about that than what Beckhams next childs name gonna be ;)
welll ...hellooo rab c!

[Aladdin]

I remember clearly the S*n (and the Daily HateMail for that matter) publishing pictures of Charlotte Church when she was 15 attending some do or other and drooling over her low cut dress and figure.

The S*n latest obsession with under-age girls is the kid from the Harry Potter films. They made some eyebrow-raising comments about her- aged 14.

But then someone mentiones the word 'paedophile' and you can guarantee the worthless rag will start frothing at the mouth and inciting hate mobs.

The hypocrisy is breath-taking.

[Isenheart8]

Well let me say, if my girlfreind ever cut of my privates with a knife, i would murder her, thats so disguisting i cant belive its true.

[Isenheart8]

No the suns page 3 is not phedophila, but all porn encorages rapists and peodos, porn shoudnt be exposed to you when you dont want to see it, the sun is a pile of crap, but the daily mail is good. Alladin i take it your a lefty, but right wingers would say the guardian is also a piece of worthless crap so there 2 sides to every coin.

[freethepeeps]

but the daily mail is good. .

How so?


:confused:

[Isenheart8]

Because its full of intelligent content, so its a right wing newspaper, get over it, i personally think the guardian is a pile of crap.

[freethepeeps]

Because its full of intelligent content, so its a right wing newspaper, get over it, i personally think the guardian is a pile of crap.

What sort of intelligent content would that be then?

:confused:

Oh btw, I have grave reservations about the Guardian as well.........

But it doesn't endorse orphans (http://vbulletin.thesite.org.uk/showpost.php?p=1248511&postcount=42) being banged up in the cold, with guards refusing them a blanket because they happen to have been unfortunate enough to be the victim of the Albanian situation.

Anyways, I guess I should remind you of the question....

What sort of intelligent content would that be then?

which was, of course, referring to the Daily Mail.

[Aladdin]

Let me see...

An ultra right wing, racist, homophobic, xenophobic, for many decades rabid anti-semite and pro fascism and Nazism, god-bothering pile of utter wank which when not talking about "scrounging" gypsies, asylum seekers and Roma is peddling some other shit about the Bible Code, crop circles or other assorted bullshit.

Yep, I can see how you believe it is an intelligent newspaper...

[Isenheart8]

Alladin daily mail anti-semite? When alot of its writers are jewish? Stop making yourself look like a fool alladin, yeah so it complains about roma gypsies coming here, so what, THE BRITISH PEOPLE DONT WANT ROMA GYPSIES COMING HERE, we want the best of the best coming here, not any old tom dick and harry, oh the poor poor asylum seekers, we let so many in and now look all immigration does is make our country into a bigger crap hole, immigration has destoryed britian, if we had any brains left we would close the doors for good, were full.

[Isenheart8]

Alladin the daily mail isnt ultra right wing , if you want to understand what real ultra right wing is then go to the N9s website, this is the only ultra right wing political party in britian as well as the NF.

[freethepeeps]

Alladin daily mail anti-semite? When alot of its writers are jewish? Stop making yourself look like a fool alladin, yeah so it complains about roma gypsies coming here, so what, THE BRITISH PEOPLE DONT WANT ROMA GYPSIES COMING HERE, we want the best of the best coming here, not any old tom dick and harry, oh the poor poor asylum seekers, we let so many in and now look all immigration does is make our country into a bigger crap hole, immigration has destoryed britian, if we had any brains left we would close the doors for good, were full.

Sorry .... how exactly did you become a spokesperson for the "British People"?

Your post is evidence of how reading the Daily Mail destroys the capacity for independent thought.


:thumb:

Anyways, you're anti-immigration yes? Come tell us about how the treatment of this lad (http://vbulletin.thesite.org.uk/showpost.php?p=1248511&postcount=42) is justified.

I'm having a problem getting the anti-immigration crowd to give a point of view on it.....

[Isenheart8]

Another thing alladin, is that you wearing your t-shirt saying bush is a cunt?
Why do u wear that t-shirt id like to see you call bush that name to his face, i bet you would piss your little pants.

[Isenheart8]

Because i speak to alot of people and 9/10 think immigration is bad, well for the natives anyway obviosly not bad for the immigrant from africa who gets free NHS to help cure his AIDS, just great isnt it the benefits of immigration.

[Isenheart8]

When pressed for an answer the Old Gang parties, Labour, LibDem and Tory, the three faces of the same dinosaur, are hard pushed on the question of “how exactly does ethnic diversity benefit Britain?”

Well to help the Old Gang politicians out of their predicament we have found a list that might be of assistance to those tongue twisted and speechless goons.

Incomers from the following countries provide the following ethnic benefits:

Albania: Sex trade and people-smuggling
Algeria: Drug-smuggling, benefit fraud
China: Snakehead gangs control illegal immigration, gangs active is synthetic drugs and credit card fraud.
Jamaica: Yardie gangs control drug-trafficking
Kosovo: In competition with Albanians for control of sex trade
Lithuania: Forgeries of passports, driving licences and banknotes
Moldova: People smuggling, particularly young women
Nigeria: Cocaine and cannabis trade, email, credit card scams and smuggling women
Russia: Drugs and cigarette smuggling
Turkey: Heroin trade and people smuggling – in competition with Kurdish gangs.

Has this list been drawn up by some repellent race hater, some narrow minded “little-Englander” who hates everything foreign. Oh no, this is a list produced by Scotland Yard and which appeared in today’s “Times”.

So when your local MP on the election campaign trail, parrots the nonsense of “the benefits” of multi-culturalism, please refer him or her to this list!

[freethepeeps]

Another thing alladin, is that you wearing your t-shirt saying bush is a cunt?
Why do u wear that t-shirt id like to see you call bush that name to his face, i bet you would piss your little pants.

I'd quite like to see Bush get that close to Alladin. He seems to feel a need to hide behind millions of pounds of security arrangements wherever he goes.


:cool:

[Man Of Kent]

id like to see you call bush that name to his face.

Actually, I'd like to see that too.

[Man Of Kent]

Because i speak to alot of people and 9/10 think immigration is bad, well for the natives anyway obviosly not bad for the immigrant from africa who gets free NHS to help cure his AIDS, just great isnt it the benefits of immigration.

Which nationality do you suppose many of the doctors treating them are?

(assuming that is all that immigrants are here for, our NHS)

Like you say, great benefits we get from immigration. Fuckwit.

[freethepeeps]

Has this list been drawn up by some repellent race hater, some narrow minded “little-Englander” who hates everything foreign. Oh no, this is a list produced by Scotland Yard and which appeared in today’s “Times”.


So, it has been drawn up some narrow-minded "little Englander", and provides living proof that the Met is institutionally racist......


:thumb:

[Man Of Kent]

Well let me say, if my girlfreind ever cut of my privates with a knife,

Given the nature of your comments around here today, I would be happy to buy her the knife.

[Isenheart8]

we dont need indian doctors, we are robbing the third world of all their talent cant you see that dumn fcuk?, why should we take all the doctors from africa stealing all their brightest people?, even a thick twat like you must relise that, we need to train our own native people and send the forign doctores back home so they can help the people who really need them!!

[freethepeeps]

we dont need indian doctors, we are robbing the third world of all their talent cant you see that dumn fcuk?, why should we take all the doctors from africa stealing all their brightest people?, even a thick twat like you must relise that, we need to train our own native people and send the forign doctores back home so they can help the people who really need them!!

Are you here to debate or to get in as many racist points as you can before a mod declares your innings over?

If its to debate, would you mind answering the question?

[Man Of Kent]

I dont need a indian doctor

Actually, I didn't suggest that the doctor would be indian. Another stereotype?

we are robbing the third world of their talent cant you see that dumn fcuk

Indeed we are, dipshit. Given that you want "the best of the best", I don't understand what you problem is with that approach... Please explain.

[Isenheart8]

The police know what they are talking about, we have to pay for so many immigrants in prison, it makes me sick when they shoudnt have been let in, the first place.

[Man Of Kent]

The police know what they are talking about, we have to pay for so many immigrants in prison, it makes me sick when they shoudnt have been let in, the first place.

Indeed. That way we could free up space for idiots like you...

[freethepeeps]

The police know what they are talking about, we have to pay for so many immigrants in prison, it makes me sick when they shoudnt have been let in, the first place.

What proportion of the prison population is foreign? And how can we be certain that they aren't over-represented because of racism in the police force.

If you keep stopping enough members of a racial group, you'll eventually find one who is breaking the law.....


:yes:

[Isenheart8]

I can explain, if we take any immigrants and i emphasie IF ANY, which means very few, we take them from developed countrys that can affored to lose them,like Europe, at the moment we are stealing doctors and nurses from developing countrys like africa which is bleeding them dry of thier brightest people, AND it is the left wing that is supporting this unfair immigration which is directly contradicting their beliefs, our gain through immigration is hurting third world countries,
Its about time we stopped importing people to do our dirty work, and the brightest people from devoloping countries who need them, immigration needs to stop now, and we need to train our own people.

[Man Of Kent]

we take them from developed countrys that can affored to lose them,like Europe

So, Albanians are okay then?

[Isenheart8]

I said developed countrys, no albanians are not ok, And even if we steal talent from developed countrys it should be limited.

[Man Of Kent]

I said developed countrys, no albanians are not ok

So, which countries precisely do you think we can attract staff from?

And even if we steal talent from developed countrys it should be limited.

To what? Just whites? Christians? Of based on jobs?

Should we really prevent a perfectly qualified person from emigrating here, just because he wasn't born in the right country?

Would you be happy to watch a person die because you couldn't get him a doctor from the UK to fill a vacant position?

[Blagsta]

if you want to understand what real ultra right wing is then go to the N9s website

Edmonton?

[Blagsta]

Because i speak to alot of people and 9/10 think immigration is bad, well for the natives anyway obviosly not bad for the immigrant from africa who gets free NHS to help cure his AIDS, just great isnt it the benefits of immigration.

Which "natives" are they then? The Celts?

[Blagsta]

Albania: Sex trade and people-smuggling
Algeria: Drug-smuggling, benefit fraud
China: Snakehead gangs control illegal immigration, gangs active is synthetic drugs and credit card fraud.
Jamaica: Yardie gangs control drug-trafficking
Kosovo: In competition with Albanians for control of sex trade
Lithuania: Forgeries of passports, driving licences and banknotes
Moldova: People smuggling, particularly young women
Nigeria: Cocaine and cannabis trade, email, credit card scams and smuggling women
Russia: Drugs and cigarette smuggling
Turkey: Heroin trade and people smuggling – in competition with Kurdish gangs.

Of course British people would never get involved in organised crime, would they?

[Isenheart8]

Yes we should because we are robbing thrid world countrys of their best people, its very selfish to allow this to happen,
I know what your getting at trying to say i only want whites coming here , always trying to turn it into a race debate,
For one i would say developed country in the EU, america, Australia and other main developed countrys it woudnt hurt too take them from, another benefit would be we would be getting westernors who could intergrate into our culture better which is a clear benefit,
all in all taking third world immigrants has no benefits often they cant speak english, and we are robbing developing countrys of thier best talents which is quite frankly a discrace.
Can you also justify imporitng third world immigrants to do out menial work, this is also discracefull, most toilet cleaners are immigrants, this is terrible thing which we are doing , we should train our own people, stop relying on immigrants for our clever work and our dirty work.

[Blagsta]

we dont need indian doctors, we are robbing the third world of all their talent cant you see that dumn fcuk?, why should we take all the doctors from africa stealing all their brightest people?, even a thick twat like you must relise that, we need to train our own native people and send the forign doctores back home so they can help the people who really need them!!

Errr...yeah, like you actually give a fuck about that? Come on, be honest about your motives.

[Blagsta]

The police know what they are talking about, we have to pay for so many immigrants in prison, it makes me sick when they shoudnt have been let in, the first place.

And economic class has nothing to do with it?

[Blagsta]

Can you also justify imporitng third world immigrants to do out menial work, this is also discracefull, most toilet cleaners are immigrants, this is terrible thing which we are doing , we should train our own people, stop relying on immigrants for our clever work and our dirty work.

I think you'll find that that is a product of capitalism.

[Blagsta]

btw isenheart, what does the 8 stand for in your name?

[Blagsta]

Haven't you been banned from here previously?

btw I know what the 8 stands for, maybe you'd like to enlighten everyone else?

[Yerascrote]

Haven't you been banned from here previously?

btw I know what the 8 stands for, maybe you'd like to enlighten everyone else?

I was thinking that myself, the name is recognisable, i can remember him say something racist in the past

go spill the beans, what does the 8 stand for?

[Blagsta]

H = 8th letter of alphabet = Hitler. Stupid code that a lot of fash use. Isn't that right Isenheart?

[Yerascrote]

H = 8th letter of alphabet = Hitler. Stupid code that a lot of fash use. Isn't that right Isenheart?

oh yea, genuinely was thinking that myself, like combat 18

1=A=Adolf
8=H=Hitler

[Spliffie]

H = 8th letter of alphabet = Hitler. Stupid code that a lot of fash use. Isn't that right Isenheart?

Actually the code is "88", not "8".

[Blagsta]

88 = Heil Hitler.

[Spliffie]

88 = Heil Hitler.

I reckon hunting down everyone with an "8" in their name may be somewhat excessive... :D .

[Blagsta]

Well yeah...but in this case I'm right aren't I Isenheart?

[freethepeeps]

I reckon hunting down everyone with an "8" in their name may be somewhat excessive... :D .

Diesel (http://vbulletin.thesite.org.uk/showthread.php?t=77892) used to put lots of 8s in his posts I seem to remember.....

[Yerascrote]

Well yeah...but in this case I'm right aren't I Isenheart?

psst "i think he's ignoring you"

[Blagsta]

Diesel (http://vbulletin.thesite.org.uk/showthread.php?t=77892) used to put lots of 8s in his posts I seem to remember.....

Yep.

[Isenheart8]

ROFL, yeah its 8 because, it stands for hitler ROFL, what are you some paranoid skitzo, quick go and hide the NAZI's are coming,NAZI trolls everywhere LOL.
No the 8 is because the name Isenheart is not available, Originally i used isenheart8 on my online game warcraft 3, i tired isenheart 1-7 but all were used, so i chose isenheart8, now i use it all accorss the web because its easier for me to remember.
Or maybe, just maybe i am a hitler worshipping neo nazi :eek2:

[Isenheart8]

Blasga,
thankyou you are the person that has truly made me laugh today, im pissing my pants laughing at this.

[Blagsta]

Yes of course it has nothing to do with your neo-nazi leanings. We all believe you, don't we? :D

[isenheart2]

i tired isenheart 1-7 but all were used,

you're lying aren't you?

[Isenheart8]

Jesus i cant believe how paranoid the far left are becoming these days, the nazis are dead blasga, its ok you can stop hiding in your closet now.

[Isenheart8]

you're lying aren't you?


If you read my POST i said i tried isenheart 1-7 in my game warcraft 3 online, but only isenheart8 was available, so now i use isenheart8 all over the internet because its just easier for me to remember rather than making a new name every time.
If you dont belive me play warcraft 3 online try and create a user name isenheart 1-7 and all will be taken.

[Blagsta]

You've been caught lying haven't you?

[Blagsta]

You've posted here before haven't you?

[Isenheart8]

No read my post ive told you why i am called isenheart8, my email is isenheart8 too.
And stop copying my names.

[Blagsta]

So the user isenheart, with a very similar posting style and the same repugnant views wasn't you? Hmmm...

[Isenheart8]

Yeah that was me, if you consider saving thirld world doctors for the third world, and stopping asylum seekers who dont need to be here repugnant, then maybe you need to get your head checked,

But you think i am neo nazi because my name has 8 in it? You should go see someone.

[Blagsta]

You've been caught out haven't you? You lot are never very bright.

[BlackArab]

Yeah that was me, if you consider saving thirld world doctors for the third world, and stopping asylum seekers who dont need to be here repugnant, then maybe you need to get your head checked,

But you think i am neo nazi because my name has 8 in it? You should go see someone.

So you wouldn't describe your views as racist at all then?

[Isenheart8]

Black Arab, tell me one of my views which is racist?
Are you saying stopping immigration is racist?

[Blagsta]

Hmmm...

MootRAT, native english people are the white european people that have been here over 1000 years, a pakistani is never going to be native english just like i am never going to be pakistani, this is not racism but fact,
The native people have a right to protect their own culture and heritage without being acccused of racism, anytime someone raises the issue for debate they are braned racist, this word is tossed around without thought and understanding of its meaning.
People have the right to oppose mass immigration and asylum seekers without beig racists, they have a right to be concerened about their childrens future in a country where white people are on the fast track to becoming a minority if action isnt taken soon.
Britian for the British!
http://www.bnp.org.uk

Moonrat theres an old saying that goes,

"A dog can be born in a stable, but its not a horse."

Things have got to such a sorry state , the native british people are on the fast track to becoming a minority in our own land, I know the BNP has got my vote this year.

Ohhh, im so evil and racist alladin just because i vote BNP, no you fcuk of on your magic carpet back to arbia where you belong, stop tossing the word racist around like you know what it means.

[Isenheart8]

Blasga i told you, you a paranoid skitzo who needs to to see someone, anyone with slightly conservative views, or anyone who dares to question immigration or the failed multi-cultural experiment, and you shouting NAZI, and RACIST, i told you the only racist are left wing anti-semites like red ken, plz we all know you leftys are the real racists :hyper:

[Blagsta]

As I said - not very bright.

[Isenheart8]

WTF, that wasnt me, i have always been called isenheart8. :mad:

[Blagsta]

So the user isenheart, with a very similar posting style and the same repugnant views wasn't you? Hmmm...

Yeah that was me, if you consider saving thirld world doctors for the third world, and stopping asylum seekers who dont need to be here repugnant, then maybe you need to get your head checked,

But you think i am neo nazi because my name has 8 in it? You should go see someone.

Bit thick aren't you?

[morrocan roll]

isenheart8.
i don't give a toss about your number 8 ...but having just read this whole thread ...i have come to the conclusion that you are a brainwashed daily hate man ...you are exactly the same as my first mother in law ...exactly.
bye ... :wave:

[BlackArab]

Nice one Blagsta, I'd only just copied my first one.

A pint of snakebite and black to you :thumb:

[Blagsta]

Snakebite and black? :eek: I know I've been listening to a lot of Coil and Nick Cave recently, but I haven't drunk that since I was a goth in the 80's! I'll have a pint of Staropramen thanks. :)

[BlackArab]

but I haven't drunk that since I was a goth in the 80's! I'll have a pint of Staropramen thanks. :)

:lol: You must love Dom Joly's shows.

Staropramen, try ordering that after a few. :D

[Blagsta]

Dom Joly isn't funny anymore.

Staropramen is normally referred to as Star, for that very reason...

[Isenheart8]

Bit thick aren't you?


Blasga, yes i have posted before but only as isenheart8, i dont have another account.

[Blagsta]

Why did you say you had then? You got banned didn't you?

[BlackArab]

Normally just point at the right one by that stage tbh ;)

[Isenheart8]

No seriosly, this is it, i diidnt get banned.

[Blagsta]

So why say it was you then?

[Isenheart8]

I thought you meant my postings, which of corse was me but always under this name.

[Blagsta]

Normally just point at the right one by that stage tbh ;)

Sorry, did my edit make your post nonsensical? :o

[Blagsta]

I thought you meant my postings, which of corse was me but always under this name.

Yes of course you did.

[Blagsta]

Anyway, who are these "natives" of which you speak?

[BlackArab]

Sorry, did my edit make your post nonsensical? :o

Nah

[Blagsta]

Aahhh, I got it. doh. :o

[Man Of Kent]

WTF, that wasnt me, i have always been called isenheart8. :mad:

At least have the decency to leave it longer than a few days before coming back...

[Isenheart8]

Anyway, who are these "natives" of which you speak?


Well i would really dare to say becuase i would probably get accused of being racist, i think we all know who the native people of britian are, im not getting drawn into this one.

[morrocan roll]

i think we all know who the native people of britian are, im not getting drawn into this one.i reckon it's people with ginger hair but we've almost taken them out now ...only a few left and we have ...dye!

[Isenheart8]

Yes they are one of the native peoples. 1000 years ago most people in britian would have had ginger hair!

[Isenheart8]

i reckon it's people with ginger hair but we've almost taken them out now ...only a few left and we have ...dye!

Dont be to smug morrocan, maybe one day there might be a revolution, and the real brits could claim all the land back for themselfes.

[freethepeeps]

Dont be to smug morrocan, maybe one day there might be a revolution, and the real brits could claim all the land back for themselfes.

Is a "real Brit" someone who has a British passport?


:confused:

[Isenheart8]

No.

[morrocan roll]

the real brits could claim all the land back for themselfes.
help me out ...who am i looking out for here?

[Isenheart8]

Well the people that have lived here for over 1000 years , the people that built this nation, maybe if you watch a video of the people 50 years ago it might help you understand.

[freethepeeps]

Well the people that have lived here for over 1000 years , the people that built this nation, maybe if you watch a video of the people 50 years ago it might help you understand.

There are 1000 year old people in this country?

:confused:

Thats amaaaaaazing.......

I watched a movie about Windrush - that was in Britain in 1948. How does that help me understand?

:confused:

[morrocan roll]

thousand years aye ...italians africans palestinians french ...fucking french ...arab indian chifuckinese ...SPANISH! ...

[Isenheart8]

Lol

[Blagsta]

Well i would really dare to say becuase i would probably get accused of being racist, i think we all know who the native people of britian are, im not getting drawn into this one.

You mean the Celts?

[marv]

i reckon it's people with ginger hair but we've almost taken them out now ...only a few left and we have ...dye!

We gingers are a dying breed we should be placed on the endangered species list because in a few generations we are going to be wiped out!!!!

Curse that blonde hair dye (shakes fist dramatically) ;)

[Toadborg]

cure his AIDS,.

I nominate you for stupidest person on this board.

And that is some achievement, seeing as any Tom, Dick and Harry is let on........

9/10 people I speak too don't want stupid people on these boards, they make a mess of it, it is so bad...... :crying:

I'm off to console myself with the 'intelligent' Daily Mail.......... :no:

[Toadborg]

Well the people that have lived here for over 1000 years , the people that built this nation, maybe if you watch a video of the people 50 years ago it might help you understand.

No-one has ever lived anywhere for more than a 1000 years!!!!

I would imagine pretty much all the 'whities' who you consider 'real' British, have Norman blood

That kinda puts a hole in your criterion doens't it?

[Flashman's Ghost]

Britain for the Celts.

Lets get rid of those awful Anglo-Saxons and Normans. And anyone with Roman blood. Oh and the Vikings. And the Irish come to that.
And the Scots had better move back to ireland where they came from. And can anyone find any Picts anymore?

Bugger it, given the confusion this could cause perhaps we better all move back to Africa where all our ancestors originated from.

[Aladdin]

Good monging racist troll scumbag :wave:

Too many stupidities to bother replying to them all (or any of them to be honest).

Besides I'm not sure if you're going to be here much longer.

Have you had your morning wank over a photo of Nick Griffin yet?

[Aladdin]

Great! Already gone.

Good riddance. Thank you Jim!

[Toadborg]

What was he banned for precisely I wonder?

I don't think it is good to ban all the idiots really, people need some target practise........

[Aladdin]

Quite nasty racism regading non-whites "not being British" and gypsies being all criminals, and the usual BNP bullshit.

Good riddance IMO.

[Toadborg]

Yeah but was anyone really upset or offended.

Lots of people agree with him and think these things, if we don't talk to them we can't show them up or try and persuade them they are wrong.

If we always ben them it will just reinfocre their view that they are right........

[Blagsta]

People like that you can't argue with. Some people you can - if someone feels agrieved that it looks like asylum seekers etc get better treatment then you can talk to them about the reality and look at it from more of a class perspective etc. But ime, someone who comes out with crap about 1000 year old native Britains is a lost cause.

[freethepeeps]

Yeah but was anyone really upset or offended.

Lots of people agree with him and think these things, if we don't talk to them we can't show them up or try and persuade them they are wrong.

If we always ben them it will just reinfocre their view that they are right........

Most people on this forum are anti-war leftys, alot of them are also muslim, thats why you see alot of anti-american sentiment on this forum, take what they say with a pinch of salt

He never did list the numerous muslims, but its clear that he wasn't that interested in what we had to say....

His assertion that the Daily Mail was "full of intelligent content" beggared belief

This WAS offensive:

THE BRITISH PEOPLE DONT WANT ROMA GYPSIES COMING HERE, we want the best of the best coming here, not any old tom dick and harry, oh the poor poor asylum seekers, we let so many in and now look all immigration does is make our country into a bigger crap hole, immigration has destoryed britian, if we had any brains left we would close the doors for good, were full.

This WAS offensive and moronic:

9/10 think immigration is bad, well for the natives anyway obviosly not bad for the immigrant from africa who gets free NHS to help cure his AIDS,

After belittling Blagsta for suggesting that the 8 in his name didn't stand for Hitler, its interesting that he claimed he uses the name "all over the internet":

I think when the bnp get strong enough, there needs to be britsh only boroughs set up, foreighners can stay there but they should not be allowed to vote in politics and they should not be allowed to change our cluture unless we decided its ok, for example they shoudnt just be allowed to build mosques where ever they choose.
Its ridiculas that in so many boroughs the asians control the vote therefor they control the borough, why should we have foreighners controlling our country????? WHY should they have the right to vote in OUR politics???!
source (http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:Jts2l-dgjH4J:www.oxfordshireforums.co.uk/topic.asp%3FTOPIC_ID%3D9877%26whichpage%3D2+isenhe art8&hl=en)

Interestingly enough, the recently banned "Isenheart" was a BNP man too...

This hardly qualifies as a well thought out position:

Yeah your right torlough, im not that proud of being english any more , because im one of the only honkies left down my street, i wonder if they will still call it england when all the white people have been "ethinically cleansed" from their homeland? But your right i will never be proud to be english, our new multi-cultural society saddens me, it leads to demoralised and fragmented communities.

Its just dumb, kneejerk bollox .........

And thats even before we talk about his desire for ethnic cleansing....

Do lots of people really hold these views? If so, why isn't the BNP the largest political party?

:confused:

[Toadborg]

I fully agree with you that he was talking a load of crap and I kinda agree with Blagsta that he was probably a lost cause to some degree, but.....

It just doesn't seem to be a very good way of dealing with extremists to simply dismiss, insult and ban them, even if they 'deserve' it. I think you have to listen to what these people are saying and really destroy them and discredit their arguments rather than just showing them the door........

The BNP are a small party but the two biggest parties policies on immigration are both very extreme and right-wing in my mind, why would this be if most people were not hostile to immigration to some degree?

As for the extent of these views among the UK public, the extreme ones that you highlight are rare I think but the general sentiment is very widespread. i think if the BNP were not so widely condemned more people would vote for them to be honest.

[freethepeeps]

i think if the BNP were not so widely condemned more people would vote for them to be honest.

Which seems a good reason not to provide a platform for knee jerk reactionary bollox. And, some people may take major offence at reading racist diatribes like that.

If someone is prepared to engage in a 2 way discussion ,to be challenged, to provide sources to back up their claims, then there is some point in engaging with them, even if their views are offensive.

Spluttering out as many racist inanities as you can before you get banned is a different story.

[Blagsta]

Oh yeah, I agree that simply screaming "racist!" at people who have concerns over immigration can often be counterproductive. But someone like isenheart can't be argued with.

[CptCoatHanger]

First real post!

I’ve been reading this thread with keen interest.

Isenheart8 seems like he’s got a lot of misguided anger built up. Unfortunately when people have such small minded and extremist views on the world, it’s very hard to change them.

As far as I can see the immigration issue comes down to a case of simple human empathy. If I was living in a civil war torn country / dictatorship / poverty stricken country then I’d like to think that another country would take me in and give me a second chance at a normal life.

Also, the argument of asylum seekers coming over and draining the country of resources is nonsense. Financially the country comes out in plus figures even after offsetting the amount that is paid in benefits and public services etc. through the tax that the asylum seekers / immigrants pay.

Just my thoughts anyway!

[Aladdin]

First real post!

I’ve been reading this thread with keen interest.

Isenheart8 seems like he’s got a lot of misguided anger built up. Unfortunately when people have such small minded and extremist views on the world, it’s very hard to change them.

As far as I can see the immigration issue comes down to a case of simple human empathy. If I was living in a civil war torn country / dictatorship / poverty stricken country then I’d like to think that another country would take me in and give me a second chance at a normal life.

Also, the argument of asylum seekers coming over and draining the country of resources is nonsense. Financially the country comes out in plus figures even after offsetting the amount that is paid in benefits and public services etc. through the tax that the asylum seekers / immigrants pay.

Just my thoughts anyway! Make perfect sense to me :)

[Toadborg]

Also, the argument of asylum seekers coming over and draining the country of resources is nonsense. Financially the country comes out in plus figures even after offsetting the amount that is paid in benefits and public services etc. through the tax that the asylum seekers / immigrants pay.



This is the fact that the right seem unable to acknowledge and which few (including shamefully, the govt) seem willing to promote.

i think most people who show hostility towards immigrants do so because they feel that they will 'get less'. This is of course bollocks.......

Of course the real reason behind many peoples hostility, though not everyone will admit it is that they have issues about culture, religion etc and feel threatened on those grounds.

Seeing as this line of argument inevitably descends into racism and xenophobia they can't just use that so they create the fear of reasources being stretched which is a lie........

[Kermit]

The sad fact is that people in this country don't want Roma gypsies coming here.

Mind, I don't think it's particularly hard to see why travelling communities of all creeds and races are despised so much.

[Aladdin]

The most terrifying thing about that Kermit, is that an almost identical thing was being said about Jewish people 80 years ago...

[Kermit]

The most terrifying thing about that Kermit, is that an almost identical thing was being said about Jewish people 80 years ago...
I know. It terrifies me as well.

It's amazing how a few things can be twisted just slightly enough to make an entire population look terrible. Every time you get some travellers who set up camp on an illegal site the newspapers scream about it, such as with the selfish twats who delayed the opening of Darlington's new mental health hospital by camping in the car park and destroying the surface. But there's silence when it comes to the travellers who live happily on designated sites.

The trouble is that the minority do just enough, and get such overblown coverage, to make anti-traveller bigotry not entirely unjustified among a lot of people.