clueless n00bs

[Kermit]

I don't wish to put anyone off p[osting (xcept boomting, the lying cretin) but this forum at the moment is really scaring me. There is all these people 9allegedly) having sex and none of them seem to have a bnloody clue about what is safe, and what is stupid.

We have one person asking if it's safe to use two condoms (um, read the sodding packet), and a various assorted collection of other people asking stupid questions too.

Now I know they're only stupid questions if you know the answer, but still.

It scares me that so many people are choosing to have sex without actually knowing or understanding anything about how to keep themselves safe.

[lil lal]

I agree that its scary that so many people are choosing to have sex without actually knowing how to keep themselves safe, but people are being expected to have sex so young these days. Maybe a lot of people lie about it but it seems so many young people are not virgins, too many.

[Fenix Blade]

Young people aren't virgins and aren't clued up about sex. That's what worries me.

[xosexxykisses14xo]

But also there are sum people that just want to know one last thing about sex before deciding to do it. but i agree. i read a couple that were totally crazy

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Nobody is a virgin life screws us all!

[boomting]

Shuddafuckupknobcheese !!!

[piccolo]

The fact that they can't find out for themselves bothers me, too. Don't rely on advice about sexual health from people you don't even know, for goodness' sake go to a family planning clinic, or a young people's enquiry service or phone any of the 1000s of sex info line things that schools promote until they're blue in the face... At the very least there are lots of well-run professional websites.

[tim86]

Shuddafuckupknobcheese !!!
hes not wrong though.

[spanner]

I guess the point is that there will always be people out there that have started having sex without getting clued up about the issues first. Part of what this site is about is to try and get the info and advice to the people that need it most, so if they find us, we're doing our job properly. Well, half doing it - we then need to make sure thay actually get the advice they need, which is why it really helps if the more knowledgable among you (you know who you are) pass on your, ahem, expertise! It's also the reason why us mods have to take every post seriously, even if it seems like a troll etc.

[nmrmak]

Guys, do you really think that Adam and Eve had internet access? :no: :D

Just joking, everybody should be educated even if they are virgins.

[tommo24]

dear oh dear...

you lot sound so fucking old.

OK, now correct me if im wrong, but this site is here so people can get advice from others.
Fair enough, some people sound young, some sound old and some sound plain stupid (that weapon stargalaxy being the main culprit)

People are asking these things because they want answers, they dont wanna be told how "you should never have sex before 16" "you should never do anything without being in a long term relationship"
You get told this in every other walk of life. They know this.

The sole reason people come on this site is to bounce off others and see what is the right way to go about things.

The people on this site are getting so insular. The amount of posts i read having a go at someone cos, for example, they dont use correct english or text talk...
The ones that should get a life are the ones that pull people up on this sort of irrelevant rubbish.

[melanie]

The ones that should get a life are the ones that pull people up on this sort of irrelevant rubbish.

or those that cant be bothered to read the user guide and so talk in this kind of irrelivant rubbish :thumb:

[otter]

If they can find google & this site... i don't see how they can be so clueless TBH. ;)
People seem to need advice and recognition from others...for absolutly EVERY little thing...inc. sex... that's what is really scary! :nervous:
There is a lot of peer pressure around sex, and people seem to be having sex younger and younger... but if someone is determined to have sex for the first time... I think it is better that they ask, on a discussion board like this... than ask nobody at all and still remain clueless whilst they engage in it.
As for people already engaging in sex and not having a clue about "safe sex" - again, it's better that they ask now than carry on without any advice. But having sex and being clueless about the risks... is just totally irresponsible behaviour!
The other thing is, there is a wealth of information out there about safe sex and the like - why arn't people taking advantage of it??? :confused:

[Cuddilicious]

I assumed it was a good thing we are getting more people coming on here asking questions about 'sex' especially when they are concerned if they are taking the right precautions. To some it may seem dumb, or just plain bored of being asked the same question on this board. But instead of preaching about what they should know about already. Why can't you just offer the advice/answers that they asked for and hope they are being careful.

[littlemissy]

I don't mind people coming here saying things like "We are thinking about having sex but ... " THIS shows more common sense and would be more than happy to answer questions of this manner and will not roll my eyes at them. Fair play to them IMO.

It is the ones that say "Well, we had sex last night, could she be pregnant (or something)?" that I despair of.

The people who aren't clued up *before* actually having sex are the ones who should not be allowed to have sex. People should know about things like contraception and pregnany and STDs BEFORE having sex, and should address these issues before getting down to it. Not AFTER the act. The ones who don't are just like children, TBH, and shouldn't have sex.

Yes, this may be harsh, but I do think it is fair. The information is all out there, it's not as if people are trying to conceal it, it comes down to common sense.

[Cuddilicious]

It is the ones that say "Well, we had sex last night, could she be pregnant?"

Well this is what happens, when some kids take advantage of having the privledge to terminate their mistake when they screw up behind their parents back.
Common sense doesn't seem to hit some of them till they realise they went a step too far.

[littlemissy]

Well this is what happens, when some kids take advantage of having the privledge to terminate their mistake when they screw up behind their parents back.
Common sense doesn't seem to hit some of them till they realise they went a step too far.

Yes, I think alot of kids think that the MAP or even abortion are forms of contraception. It narks me alot as they simply aren't.

[girl with sharp teeth]

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[VinylVicky]

I don't wish to put anyone off p[osting (xcept boomting, the lying cretin) but this forum at the moment is really scaring me. There is all these people 9allegedly) having sex and none of them seem to have a bnloody clue about what is safe, and what is stupid.

We have one person asking if it's safe to use two condoms (um, read the sodding packet), and a various assorted collection of other people asking stupid questions too.

Now I know they're only stupid questions if you know the answer, but still.

It scares me that so many people are choosing to have sex without actually knowing or understanding anything about how to keep themselves safe.ever since the layout of the board got changed we have ha so many more users and so many more strange questions...dunno if I'm imagining the link though!

[littlemissy]

The MAP is a form of contraception, just not any use as a regular method.

There was this argument before somewhere and I am still with the side who says it is not. I can't find the thread, think it may've been a Hellfire one and deleted.

But it isn't the point here. Those who think it is a normal, regular method of contraception still fall into the categories that I mentioned.

[girl with sharp teeth]

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[Mist]

It prevents any egg from implanting before a pregnancy occurs. It's a contraceptive. It can not abort a pregnancy that has not occured yet.

You're looking at that from the sciencey point of view, which is not what littlemissy's point is. Her point is that people should not consider the MAP to be contraception, it's got nothing to do with whether it aborts or prevents things, it's to do with the level of common sense that people are (or are not) applying to their sex life.

[girl with sharp teeth]

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[littlemissy]

Whatever the science and biology behind the MAP is doesn't change my opinion that the MAP should be considered as a form of contraception. I'm not a Reproductive Nazi, I just have a problem with people who are having sex not knowing how to protect themselves.

There is a place for the MAP as accidents do happen but I still don't think it should be used as a form of regular contraception, hence the word emergency in the title.

[girl with sharp teeth]

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[Kermit]

you lot sound so fucking old.

People are asking these things because they want answers, they dont wanna be told how "you should never have sex before 16" "you should never do anything without being in a long term relationship"

You're putting words in my mouth.

Whilst I don't think a succession of one-night stands is good (y'know, STDs spread by people sleeping around) that wasn't my point. My point is that you shouldn't be having sex if you need to ask whether or not it is safe to use two condoms.

The people on this site are getting so insular. The amount of posts i read having a go at someone cos, for example, they dont use correct english or text talk...

If you can't be arsed to write in something intelligible instead of txt spk then why should we be arsed to try and decipher the drivel? I don't demand standard English (look at my early posts, I used anything but SE) but txt spk iz cMpLiTlI HrD 2 NdRsTnD!!!11one1!

And if your entire contribution to the forum is "OMG i fUkT mI gf UP DA aZzS!!!11one1 DO u CuM up UR gfs d0gZ aZs?!?!?!!??!" then you shouldn't be posting.

[Cuddilicious]

My point is that you shouldn't be having sex if you need to ask whether or not it is safe to use two condoms.

But at the same time, this person who had doubts about safe sex, was 'willing' to ask first before jumping the gun and doing something foolish.

Surely you can see, that we ain't born with this knowledge AND you won't know these things until you ask.

[Kermit]

But at the same time, this person who had doubts about safe sex, was 'willing' to ask first before jumping the gun and doing something foolish.

Surely you can see, that we ain't born with this knowledge AND you won't know these things until you ask.
That's very true, and that was kinda my other point.

People should be getting taught this stuff. Or they should at least be taught how to read the chuffing packet.

[Cuddilicious]

That's very true, and that was kinda my other point.

People should be getting taught this stuff. Or they should at least be taught how to read the chuffing packet.

Not all teenagers get a great sex aid education at school. I know I didn't.
Which is why I wouldn't talk down to anyone who comes on here to ask about safe sex, even if it's over the most simpliest thing I believe is just about having common sense.

[Kermit]

I said that I wasn't being patronising, but there does seem to be an awful lot of stupid questions, and I believe that two-condoms question is stupid. Especially as it's not that hard to read the instructions on the back of the packet.

[Cuddilicious]

I said that I wasn't being patronising...

Well that's how it seemed.

[Kermit]

Well that's how it seemed.
Aww diddums.

Now I am being.

Simple fact is that if you don't know simple stuff you shouldn't be having sex. If you aren't sure and ask first then you deserve seveal million brownie points, even if it is a daft question, but if you don't then you are an idiot.

[malteser monkay]

Some of it does sound rather...dumb when it's asked...but I suppose it depends upon what the individuals like. Things like that "Can you wear 2 condoms for extra protection' seems...if you look at it for what it is....a safe assumption to make. Mind you I knew that it wasn't cause when I bought my first box of condoms, I sat down and read the instructions to using them WAY before I eve contemplated having sex. I came here and looked at the fact sheets and some of these questions are so easily answered in loadsa depth and detail in them, but they appear on the forum and it gets to a point where I think "I've answered it before...." and just not reply to someone.

School taught me practically nothing in the way of REAL sex...just the science involving eggs, sperms and baby making! Nothing in the way of contraceptive etc...so I do agree with Kermy, although also remembering when I was a newbie here, my first few posts were well worded with lots of 'Sorry if someones asked this before...please don't flame me...sorry sorry...". So similar to what someone else said, people should still come up with dozy things without getting a grilling.

And the dude calling people old, sad for disliking text talk etc... Text talk is irritating. If your reading this post now, the fact you've most likely understood everything I've said so far is the way I've said it...diz instead of this, ja instead of you and god knows how ever many other words that are abbreviated and played about with, making it hard to interpret and just like...screams a sort of immaturity because you've yet to reach the use of big words...and it just slots in with a culture that slashes up our perfectly fine words. Plus, for users from other countries whose first language is not english, it's easier to understand without thinking "What the hell is iz and 11!!22"

Apologies for the large post :D

Malt xx :D

[Cuddilicious]

Aww diddums.

Now I am being.

Simple fact is that if you don't know simple stuff you shouldn't be having sex. If you aren't sure and ask first then you deserve seveal million brownie points, even if it is a daft question, but if you don't then you are an idiot.

Here, look, I didn't say it was ok, for youngsters to have sex even if they don't understand the concept of safe sex. But some teenagers aren't going to see sense in waiting. Which is why I like to offer as much help and advice to the ones that have the courage to just ask. Rather than patronising them or calling them an idiot. All that's going to do is put them off in coming back to ask for more help if they needed it in the future.

[Vision-Razor]

Agreed. A much smarter person than me once said that there is no such thing as a stupid question. The dumb thing is to wallow in your ignorance.

Who the fuck are you to dictate what people can and can't ask frog boy?

[littlemissy]

Which is why I wouldn't talk down to anyone who comes on here to ask about safe sex, even if it's over the most simpliest thing I believe is just about having common sense.

See, I agree completely with this statement. I will gladly help anyone who is asking about safe sex before actually doing the deed. And as he was extremely worried about it then it was a valid(ish) question.

It is the ones who go "I didn't put the condom on properly, what will I do?" or "if I take the pill on this day, this day and this day will I still be protected?" or "OMG I think she is pregnant, what will I do?"

These are the posts that annoy me as these are the questions that should be answered or researced before having sex. "Should I use 2 condoms?" does not fall into the category of stupidity on this board as far as I am concerned.

[Kermit]

Who the fuck are you to dictate what people can and can't ask frog boy?

OK, smart arse, starter for ten. Point out where I said that people should be banned from asking questions. In fact, I actually said that people who are unsure of things deserve credit for asking.

So before you start strutting in and throwing your weight around, learn to read. I know it's a difficult concept for you, or it seems to be judging by your contributions here so far, but hey, we can all be optimistic.

[Cuddilicious]

Thank you littlemissy. Glad someone agrees.

But I also would not begrudge in helping those who were foolish enough to do the deed before asking for advice. People make mistakes, I just hope for them to learn their lesson and by giving them the right advice, will help them know what to do next time.

[Kermit]

Given the state of sex education in this country, I don't blame people for not knowing. If you're never taught how to roll a condom on properly, for instance, then it's not suprising that they split so often for so many people.

Though my point about the two condoms is that people need to have a certaion level of common sense before they have sex, and reading the packet of condoms and seeing "don't use more than one at a time" (to paraphrase) should give people a slight hint.

If people are asking about safe sex then it's great, but saddening that nobody has ever taught them.

[littlemissy]

Thank you littlemissy. Glad someone agrees.

But I also would not begrudge in helping those who were foolish enough to do the deed before asking for advice. People make mistakes, I just hope for them to learn their lesson and by giving them the right advice, will help them know what to do next time.

Put like that, yes, I do agree with you. However, with something as major as the consequences of sex can be, it saddens me that they do not do their research properly.

[Cuddilicious]

Given the state of sex education in this country, I don't blame people for not knowing.

See now I can't keep up with you. One minute you say, they should know this and that as it's all common sense. And now you understand that how some may not know the 'simpliest' answers to their questions about safe sex. Yes I would prefer, if every teenager would read the full facts about safe sex before making any decisions. But sadly not all of them are going to do that.

At the end of the day, when a teenager comes on these boards asking for advice, whether it was before or after they had sex. We should not hold back anyhelpful advice that they may need. But possibly put a stop to looking down on them and stop dictating what they should already know.

[Cuddilicious]

Put like that, yes, I do agree with you. However, with something as major as the consequences of sex can be, it saddens me that they do not do their research properly.

Yeah I know. I mean I have a 9 year old niece and I'm already panicing when she hits her teens. But all we can do is try and give out as much advice/guidance to them as we can. :)

[Kermit]

It's quite simple: they SHOULD know things such as how to wear a condom, and how the contraceptive pill and MAP work, but given the state of the education in this country it isn't their fault that they don't.

Though anyone who does first then asks is an idiot of the highest calibre; I'd still give out the advice, though, as I think my four years here shows.

[Cuddilicious]

It's quite simple: they SHOULD know things such as how to wear a condom, and how the contraceptive pill and MAP work, but given the state of the education in this country it isn't their fault that they don't.

Yas, which is why I assume this website has become soo popular. As it's here to give them the answers they maybe looking for.

Though anyone who does first then asks is an idiot of the highest calibre; I'd still give out the advice, though, as I think my four years here shows.

Great that you can give advice but as I said before. Maybe you could hold back your bitchin why they are an idiot to ask such a question as well.