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groovechampion
23-01-2005, 04:57 PM
Hi,

Just need a bit of advice, or maybe sympathy or something!

I was out with a girl on Friday, been out with her before and had a one night stand previously. We were in a bar and it was going well, talking and being friendly etc.

Then we went on to a club, met up with my mates and she suddenly got really cold and started ignoring me talking to my friends only.

I tried talking to her a bit but after a while she just said ill be back in a minute and walked off, she never came back.
She ignored her phone then she turned it off.


This made me feel really bad because I really liked her and I thought she liked me!

Total bitch right?

I hate the way women constantly go on about how "men" are so bad, in fact they treat men far worse in my opinion.

twisted_trinity
23-01-2005, 05:01 PM
I know a girl who is very much like this. and yeah ok, i've done my fair share of being bitchy, someone on here has had the turning off the computer, and the mobile trick when he was actually just telling me the truth that i didn't like. :S

but *hugs* because i've also been on the resieving end of that and i know how horrible it is.

we aren't all like that, and not all the time. but i bet she was a lesbian anyway. :)

groovechampion
23-01-2005, 05:05 PM
:)

Thanks, yeh I know not everyone is but there are a lot of nasty girls about.

nicebutdim23
23-01-2005, 05:13 PM
maybe she thought u were going out to get back together and mis-interpreted the fact ur mates were there and got in a strop?

Fish_food
23-01-2005, 05:22 PM
she sounds like a really horrible girl... I'd definetly forget about her if she treats you like this. Maybe she was following the saying "treat them mean, keep them keen." a bit too much. In my opinion i don't think guys or girls should act like this.

groovechampion
23-01-2005, 05:30 PM
Thanks! I'd have to agree with you!

What really made me feel bad was that she seemed so nice and an all round cool person.

Plenty more fish in the sea I guess...well, I hope :s

BumbleBee
23-01-2005, 08:30 PM
So, you were out with a girl, just the two of you, having a really nice time... a few drinks, a good chat, just the two of you together and then your friends make an entrance.

Surely I'm not the only female on these boards who would be a little, ummm, disappointed, upset, offended etc if I were out with someone in the above circumstances and the guy's mates ended up on the scene?

From what you've said she was probably hurt that you met up with your mates when you were supposed to be with her.

Doofay
23-01-2005, 11:51 PM
She's obviously a loser who doesn't give a shit about leading you on. Stay away to be honest, anyone that cared about you would be decent with you.

groovechampion
24-01-2005, 10:30 AM
She's obviously a loser who doesn't give a shit about leading you on. Stay away to be honest, anyone that cared about you would be decent with you.


Thanks dude. That's how I'm trying to look at it...

nicebutdim23
24-01-2005, 10:55 AM
So, you were out with a girl, just the two of you, having a really nice time... a few drinks, a good chat, just the two of you together and then your friends make an entrance.

Surely I'm not the only female on these boards who would be a little, ummm, disappointed, upset, offended etc if I were out with someone in the above circumstances and the guy's mates ended up on the scene?

From what you've said she was probably hurt that you met up with your mates when you were supposed to be with her.

glad im not the only one who thought that!!!! :yes:

groovechampion
24-01-2005, 11:18 AM
So, you were out with a girl, just the two of you, having a really nice time... a few drinks, a good chat, just the two of you together and then your friends make an entrance.

Surely I'm not the only female on these boards who would be a little, ummm, disappointed, upset, offended etc if I were out with someone in the above circumstances and the guy's mates ended up on the scene?

From what you've said she was probably hurt that you met up with your mates when you were supposed to be with her.

She knew in advance that they were going to be there, she even said that her friends were going to show up too!

nicebutdim23
24-01-2005, 11:26 AM
are sure that ur mates didnt tell her something not very nice about u?

groovechampion
24-01-2005, 11:34 AM
No they didn't.
She's a bitch, I was beating myself up about it but now I realise that she has the problem not me.

nicebutdim23
24-01-2005, 11:59 AM
if thats what u want to think then thats up to u, like u said, plenty more fish in the sea. however, it's rare for a girl to act like this for no reason.......

malteser monkay
24-01-2005, 02:15 PM
:yes:
I agree with nicebutdim. It's a bit TOO odd for her to just switch behaviour unless she's an extremely bitchy wench who likes to string along then bugger off on the edge of boredom..could you have offended her in anyway i.e. ignored her when she was speaking to you, made her buy all the drinks, made her a drink using the leftovers on the tables around you...

Are you sure your friends didn't say anything, did you keep gawping out pretty young women around you...I'm just scraping the bottom of the barrel. To be honest, I feel severely bitchy wenches are more of a rarity without a motive..I'm lovely, lots of us womanly creatures are :D

Malt xxx :D

Kermit
24-01-2005, 02:26 PM
People don't generally do that without some reason to.

Though it's probably easier for you fi you decide it was her and not yourself.

groovechampion
24-01-2005, 02:33 PM
No really, there was no reason at all...

We bought each other rounds of drinks, my friends weren't rude at all, if anything they were too nice.

She sent me a msg. today saying "Actually I'm not a particularly nice person. Sorry to lead you on, what can I say? Just forget it all."

It really was a propos of nothing and I felt really hurt by it, OK now though - Ive come to terms that it was all her and nothing to do with me.

Just needed some reassurance!

groovechampion
24-01-2005, 02:34 PM
Though it's probably easier for you fi you decide it was her and not yourself.

Yeah thanks. :mad:

VinylVicky
24-01-2005, 02:48 PM
People don't generally do that without some reason to.

Though it's probably easier for you fi you decide it was her and not yourself.
Very true.

I have however done this to a few lads in my past. It's usually something they do that makes me go off them, the way they look at me, how they dance of something atupid that puts me right off. I then spot other men and fancy them, this doesnt happend if I'm into the date. I usually make up something or go to the loo and fuck off.

This was a couple of years ago and I know it's quite mean.

nicebutdim23
24-01-2005, 03:04 PM
its true though. men arent as subtle as women, some things they do can really put a woman off or upset them- they dont even realise half the time

groovechampion
24-01-2005, 04:09 PM
its true though. men arent as subtle as women, some things they do can really put a woman off or upset them- they dont even realise half the time

So that makes it ok to hurt their feelings and be nasty?

Fiend_85
24-01-2005, 04:14 PM
Let me get this straight? YOU were a wanker and it's all HER fault? That's your take on this?

groovechampion
24-01-2005, 05:50 PM
Let me get this straight? YOU were a wanker and it's all HER fault? That's your take on this?

How on earth was I a wanker?

Glad I'm not too fragile, I came looking for sympathy/reassurance - not much from the bitches, er I mean girls, on this board!

:crazyeyes


Ok that was harsh I'm sure you're all great. :thumb:

littlemissy
24-01-2005, 06:16 PM
How on earth was I a wanker?

Glad I'm not too fragile, I came looking for sympathy/reassurance - not much from the bitches, er I mean girls, on this board!

:crazyeyes


Ok that was harsh I'm sure you're all great. :thumb:

To be honest I don't think it was harsh (OMGoodness, how many times have I ever agreed with Fiend_85?!?)

I know that if I was in a similar position then I would've been quite upset too. The girl obviously had her wires crossed and thought that the 2 of you were going to have a night alone so it is no wonder she turned all distant and cold if it turned out to be a date with you and your friends.

I'm the first to admit that there are some girls who treat some guys like shit but I personally don't think this was the case here.

Sorry if this isn't what you wanted to hear but you have to see it from her perspective too.

VinylVicky
24-01-2005, 07:23 PM
It is not obvious about anything! He has stated they planned to meet with friends!
Anyway, yes lots of guys r wankers, lots of girls are bitches. You didnt deserve to be walked out on without her explaining but most people are chicken.
You probably had an annoying (to her) little tic/walk/bogie that made her feel creepy.

littlemissy
24-01-2005, 07:57 PM
It is not obvious about anything! He has stated they planned to meet with friends!
Anyway, yes lots of guys r wankers, lots of girls are bitches. You didnt deserve to be walked out on without her explaining but most people are chicken.
You probably had an annoying (to her) little tic/walk/bogie that made her feel creepy.

It is obvious though otherwise she wouldn't have walked out methinks. She didn't realise that his mates were going to be there. He may've said this, I am not doubting that, but she may've thought that he was kidding or didn't really acknowledge what he was saying. This is why I mean "it was obvious she had her wires crossed". She was expecting something different.

This is the only (rational) explanation I can see about why she walked out on him.

I know that if I was on a night out with a guy and all his friends who I didn't know appeared out of the blue then I would've felt really awkward and may've done similar.

VinylVicky
24-01-2005, 08:35 PM
I'm a person can get on with anyone so it wouldnt be rational to me. It depends on the situation whether I would be pissed off but his mates being there wouldnt put me off the person, in some instances it may piss me off. But then she could be like you and be really pissed at him, enough to not want to see him again.


I reckon she's a slapper and realised exactly which one night stand you were, when she saw your mate and remebered he was the better shag.

Yep, that's it. You're a crap shag.

littlemissy
24-01-2005, 10:21 PM
I'm a person can get on with anyone so it wouldnt be rational to me. It depends on the situation whether I would be pissed off but his mates being there wouldnt put me off the person, in some instances it may piss me off. But then she could be like you and be really pissed at him, enough to not want to see him again.


Just wanna say that it's not that I would never want to see him again (if I was in a similar situation) it's just that I would be completely thrown and panicked that I wouldn't know what to do in that situation.

However, I do see your point too.

nicebutdim23
24-01-2005, 11:05 PM
So that makes it ok to hurt their feelings and be nasty?
dont believe i said that!

groovechampion
24-01-2005, 11:34 PM
Nah she really did know that my friends would be there, thats partly why we went there.

I've realised that she's a total bitch, made me realise that even though there are many many very good looking girls out there, only a small proportion of them are worth bothering with. I'm gonna be careful who I go for from now on. So many slappas, hos and bitches about. Fuck her!

She was pretty crap in bed actually, worst shag all year :p, so there!

littlemissy
25-01-2005, 12:02 AM
I think you should find out her side of the story before jumping to conclusions.

Secondly, if she does turn out to be a bitch don't tarnish all (even most) girls with this brush. We are not all like that.

groovechampion
25-01-2005, 12:17 AM
No I know all aren't, lots are though.

Her side of the story? She turned her mobile off, then sent me a message the next day saying she was a nasty person. My conclusion, another bitch.

Bri-namite
25-01-2005, 12:32 AM
No I know all aren't, lots are though.

Her side of the story? She turned her mobile off, then sent me a message the next day saying she was a nasty person. My conclusion, another bitch.

A lot of girls are scheming and manipulative like that, sadly.

I think a lot of it's because they think can act how they want, because they've watched too much Sex And The City and similar shite.

Then when they get hurt, they have a great habit of ignoring all the shit they gave him, then all her Lambrini slags come over and say he's not worth it, and then they go slutting it in a nightclub to make her feel better.

There's plenty nice girls out there, you just need to develop a sense of which ones are trouble.

groovechampion
26-01-2005, 11:34 AM
A lot of girls are scheming and manipulative like that, sadly.

I think a lot of it's because they think can act how they want, because they've watched too much Sex And The City and similar shite.

Then when they get hurt, they have a great habit of ignoring all the shit they gave him, then all her Lambrini slags come over and say he's not worth it, and then they go slutting it in a nightclub to make her feel better.

There's plenty nice girls out there, you just need to develop a sense of which ones are trouble.

Yeah I'm inclined to agree with you, women feel they have the right to be horrible to men "cos all men are bastards!" apparently.

Then when a girl perceives that she's been hard done by (often wrongly), they claim that men are terrible etc.

Balls to this post-feminist crap!

I'm gonna be a male whore and play the game purely for my benefit till I find a truly nice girl.

nicebutdim23
26-01-2005, 11:36 AM
sooo harsh! not all of us are like that

VinylVicky
26-01-2005, 07:19 PM
I'm gonna be a male whore and play the game purely for my benefit till I find a truly nice girl.
I'd spot u a mile off....guys pretending to want casual but really they want my heart not a tart ;)

ShyBoy
26-01-2005, 07:49 PM
She's a bitch, I was beating myself up about it but now I realise that she has the problem not me.

Dead on. If she had a problem with something that you did to offend her she has to tell you, she can't give you the silent treatment and assume you know what's up. A lot of girls do this anyway because they like to have more of a 'game' to meeting up / going out with someone, so they will fall out with you and see if you chase them, but if you do then you're too weak, if you don't then you're a bastard who doesn't care. I prefer the second option, because while the girl is going on about you, you're probably in a bar somewhere having a great time with your mates.

Disclaimer for the easily offended: I'm not saying all girls are like this, mind you.

BumbleBee
27-01-2005, 11:14 AM
A lot of girls are scheming and manipulative like that, sadly.

I think a lot of it's because they think can act how they want, because they've watched too much Sex And The City and similar shite.

Then when they get hurt, they have a great habit of ignoring all the shit they gave him, then all her Lambrini slags come over and say he's not worth it, and then they go slutting it in a nightclub to make her feel better.

There's plenty nice girls out there, you just need to develop a sense of which ones are trouble.


A lot of blokes are scheming and manipulative like that, sadly.

I think a lot of it's because they think can act how they want, because they've watched too much Men Behaving Badly and similar shite.

Then when they get hurt, they have a great habit of ignoring all the shit they gave her, then all her beer guzzling slags come over and then they go slutting it in a nightclub to make him feel better.

There's plenty nice blokes out there, you just need to develop a sense of which ones are trouble.

It works both ways, does it not? :)

groovechampion
27-01-2005, 11:18 AM
A lot of blokes are scheming and manipulative like that, sadly.

I think a lot of it's because they think can act how they want, because they've watched too much Men Behaving Badly and similar shite.

Then when they get hurt, they have a great habit of ignoring all the shit they gave her, then all her beer guzzling slags come over and then they go slutting it in a nightclub to make him feel better.

There's plenty nice blokes out there, you just need to develop a sense of which ones are trouble.

It works both ways, does it not? :)


Not really. Men behaving badly is about men being stupid but ultimately being in the palm of the hand of the women.

Fiend_85
27-01-2005, 11:37 AM
Face it, it cuts both ways.

1983
27-01-2005, 11:39 AM
Blokes and girls are as equally mind fucking as each other.

I've done it, had it done to me, life goes on.

Just one experience you take as a learning curve to not let yourself be led on as much as before.

littlemissy
27-01-2005, 11:56 AM
It works both ways, does it not? :)

Very much so. There are an equal number of shitty boys who fuck you around. It isn't fair to tarnish all girls with this brush and say that all guys are little angels too.

Yes, it works both ways.

groovechampion
27-01-2005, 12:26 PM
I'm afraid I'm going to have to cordially disagree with you ladies on that point. :p

Some guys may be bad, but on the whole girls are far worse and more of them are manipulative and selfish in that respect.

What makes it worse is the amount of times you hear girls man-bashing, going on about how all men are bastards. You don't hear that from guys much.

1983
27-01-2005, 12:48 PM
What makes it worse is the amount of times you hear girls man-bashing, going on about how all men are bastards. You don't hear that from guys much.

Course you don't, two wee things called PRIDE and EGO. The majority of men are those who function more theoretically and logically, rather than emotionally. This is why you don't hear most men man bash women until they are blindingly drunk, and it all comes out, or they go and pull some slapper as it's to reaffirm their faith they "still have it".

Now remember, I did say the MAJORITY and MOST men.

The ones that are selfish are the female equivalent of the bastard selfishy ones that we are weak enough to let into our lives. Pot, kettle, black.

Girls who are selfish and manipulative are ones who haven't been able to see what damage it really does until it happens to them. Although there are the odd ones who just let it go like water off a duck's back. Same for blokes, some who let it happen, and just carry on, or they actually reflect and learn not to let themselves be so inconsiderate.

It's all a learning curve. It's not something SO drastic as to let yourself lose faith in all the opposite sex.

If your Mum and Dad can stick 20+ years, and truthfully say they want at least another 20+ years, well there has to be hope there's someone for everyone.

littlemissy
27-01-2005, 01:23 PM
I'm afraid I'm going to have to cordially disagree with you ladies on that point. :p

Some guys may be bad, but on the whole girls are far worse and more of them are manipulative and selfish in that respect.

What makes it worse is the amount of times you hear girls man-bashing, going on about how all men are bastards. You don't hear that from guys much.

You are being biased and narrowminded though. There are a fair amount of guys who are willing to screw a girl over for whatever reason. I am not saying that all girls are angels and that we are the perfect sex. Quite the contrary. But it cannot be denied that men can be as bad as girls.

I have been screwed over by men in the past. And yes, I have gone on about it, some may've called it "man-bashing".

Girls are extremely bitchy, but men aren't perfect either.

groovechampion
27-01-2005, 02:30 PM
Yeah I'm not saying that men are never manipulative or nasty to girls, but I am saying that women are worse than men.

Men do it too, but in general not as selfishly or as much as girls.

wheresmyplacebo
27-01-2005, 02:47 PM
no guy aims to want a girl who manipulative and moody, whilst girls are attracted to rougher guys who generally tend to be better at being nasty gits