Cousin+Muslim+Baby=No!

[joshmeister]

A little thing is worrying me at the moment.

By Cousin is now a muslim (we are white), i aint racist but i hate him being a muslim, i am scared, read that some cleric said all the muslims in the UK should fight will Al-Qi-Eda (or wahtever it is) he sais "i should be muslim etc".
Although he has changed, he used to be into drugs, crime, he even stabbed someone/burnt two houses down. Know he is clean, and havent been in trouble for over a year.
My cousin had a kid with his Ex-GF (wasnt planned) and now they have split up, he sees her every weekend, but he is having trouble with the mothers mum. Now they are going to court so he can have the baby 24/7 (mother is still on drugs/sex with strangers), and my mum said "if they wont let you have the child, i will have her (ie. meaning she will look after her) and i dont want that to happen! :'(

[morrocan roll]

oh dear ...how old is the muslim guy?
i can understand why young impressional minds are wanting to rebel and even attack the great satan (u.s.a) ...even this old bastard has had it cross his mind!
there is so much injustice in this world ...mostly perpetrated by the rich christians of the techno world of wealth and greed ...that to a point it is understandable to a degree.
but then again ...he may just be one of the more boring types of non extremist muslim.

[joshmeister]

Think he is now 21. (LOL - dont know my cousins age)

Oh and he makes my mum read the Kuran, tries to make my sister a muslim, and she is 11.

When he 1st started he was told to cut down by the Muslim leaders, he was actually recruited, well he joined in Slough, there have been arrests for terror charges there :nervous:

He was from a good back ground, quite wealth family, had a good education, was god at all sports, would ov been the new Tim Henmin. but then he took drugs and then it fell apart.

[Renzo]

Just because he is a muslim that doesnt make him a bad person or a terrorist extremist. :yeees:

[morrocan roll]

Just because he is a muslim that doesnt make him a bad person or a terrorist extremist. :yeees:
i did say that ...sort of.

[Renzo]

i did say that ...sort of.

I thought it might neec clarifying

he doesn't seem too bright ;)

[DG]

I'm not sure what this thead is about, ....your cousin is now off drugs and looking to take his child away from a mother who's on drugs and sleeps around, ... sounds good so far!!

There's a lot of Muslims in the world, for the vast majority all they want to do is live in peace, and have nothign to do with terrorism.

Number of Muslims in the world:
Estimates of the total number of Muslims in the world vary greatly:

0.700 billion or more, Barnes & Noble Encyclopedia 1993
0.817 billion, The Universal Almanac (1996)
0.951 billion, The Cambridge Factfinder (1993)
1.100 billion, The World Almanac (1997)
1.200 billion, CAIR (Council on American-Islamic relations)

At a level of 1.2 billion, they represent about 22% of the world's population. They are the second largest religion in the world. Only Christianity is larger, with 33% of the world's inhabitants.

[joshmeister]

well the muslim part i dont like :nervous:

Its more of my mother looking after this kid.

[Fiend_85]

What is wrong with him being a muslim?

[SuzyCreamcheese]

my brother has just become muslim recently too. I say live and let live. All the religions are much the same if you ask me.
He knows better than to try and convert me. He used to be a born again christian and tried to convert me then, but gave up after a short time - maybe im a lost cause?
I think anybodies religion is personal to them, and you have no reason to feel scared. Dont believe the scaremongering you read in the tabloids, To have a religion in most cases is a good thing and helps guide people to lead good lives, which it seems has happened in the case of your cousin, so be pleased and proud of him.

[morrocan roll]

Its more of my mother looking after this kid.
it's your mums flesh and blood ...would you rather the child be put into care?

[Kimono]

Islam is fundamentally a peaceful religion and, as with other religions, it is the believers' interpretations of religious doctrines that determine how they live their life.

For example, there are many gay Christians in this world, but they clearly don't accept the part of the Bible that says man shouldn't lay with man.

Islamist extremists are in the absolute minority, and the 9/11 fear culture has unfortunately meant that Muslims are too often viewed in a suspicious light.

It's great that your cousin isn't into drugs and crime anymore - show that you are pleased for him for this but if he pushes his beliefs onto you, just firmly and kindly let him know that you aren't interested, and that you are capable of respecting his life choices.

Keep an open mind - perhaps if you read up a little bit on Islam you'll find that some of your preconceptions are wrong and you'll feel less afraid. Then again, if you still think you're right, at least with your knowledge you'll be able to make a sound argument to stand up for your own beliefs without being accused of ignorance.

[The Doc]

You are talking as if Islam is a dangerous cult. He isn't going to drown himself outsdie the Capitol or move to a farm. If you are that bothered about your cousin being a Muslim, why don't you try learning about Islam, what it entails, festivals, rituals etc and just see how things work, before deciding he is going to do Jihad in the only sense some people seem to understand it, and go to Palestine.

[Rainbow Phoenix]

why dont you want your mother to look after the kid?

[budda]

Its odd how the term jihad has been taken out of context by the extremists. It really can mean a whole variety of things.

Its comparable to Christians and them 'bearing witness'.

But anyway, onto the topic, unless you have any evidence that he is involved in the more extreme elements of Islam I really wouldnt worry. He'll probably be better behaved and more respectful to your cousin than other men of his age bracket.

My one slight concern would be his history and then conversion. Those who turn to religion after strife later in life SOMETIMES lean towards the more black and white view of life.

[nicebutdim23]

muslims get a bad press but most of them just want a peaceful life.
try and support him, learn about his interpretation of the religion and then ull understand him better.

muslim doesnt = extremist

[Silverberg]

At least he's not an evangelist.