There's only 3 ways to get lots of money in this life, WIN IT, INHERIT IT,or STEAL IT

[wheresmyplacebo]

coz you'll never get rich from just working"...

said to someone i know in a cab

discuss

[Yerascrote]

Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
coz you'll never get rich from just working"...

said to someone i know in a cab

discuss

define rich, what you mean like being a millionaire, most of us will never get that far by having average jobs but there are certain "normal" jobs where you do get paid very well, gettin £100,000 a year i would consider being rich, and you can get rich in a metaphorical term by just working, gratification and all that shite but thats another story.......

[Fiend_85]

You'd be richer than 95% of the country on 50 grand a year. That's the average wage in my line of work.

[Yerascrote]

Originally posted by Fiend_85
You'd be richer than 95% of the country on 50 grand a year. That's the average wage in my line of work.

what you doing????

[Kentish]

Surely it's harder to win money than earn it?

[Yerascrote]

Originally posted by Kentish
Surely it's harder to win money than earn it?

it's not the methodology of getting rich, it's the status of being rich, i thnk thats what he means.

[z0ma]

There is no discussion, it's obviously a load of bollocks.

[Fiend_85]

Originally posted by turlough
what you doing????

Chartered Engineer. Average wage £50,000. Obviously, that won't be for a while...

[Amira]

Originally posted by turlough
it's not the methodology of getting rich, it's the status of being rich, i thnk thats what he means.

being rich is more than having money in my opinion, i see way too many people earning loads but i still dont consider them as rich, being rich is a way of life, its also using your money in a particular way. Being rich in a "new money" sense is not rich in my opinion, because most new money types just blast their money on stupid things instead of investing it into making more money, which is what i consider being "rich"

[Aladdin]

It's a vicious circle for most people. Very very often high paid jobs (those who bring home a six-figure salary) are unattainable for most people. A lot of the times you need family connections and/or shitloads of cash to pay for degrees or courses that will cost many tens of thousands of Pounds.

Every now and then you hear of one success story, a person who has worked his way from the bottom or set up a new and revolutionary business. But the immense majority of peeps have fuck all chance of ever being rich, though those lucky enough to reach university and being able to pay for the degree of their choice would have a fair chance to land a very good pay job regardless.

[Amira]

i think what aladdin is saying is quite accurate....you mostly see people from the traditional upper class famillies attaining the really high paid jobs. However, i dont believe its the education, i think its got more to do with pulling strings and getting them in the market in good positions

[wheresmyplacebo]

Originally posted by Amira
i think what aladdin is saying is quite accurate....you mostly see people from the traditional upper class famillies attaining the really high paid jobs. However, i dont believe its the education, i think its got more to do with pulling strings and getting them in the market in good positions

70% of jobs are unadvertised, says it all, its aobut knowing people, and strnagely enough at uni the really welathy kids only hang out with eachother cause only they can afford to go out to expensive places or all the time.....

[Amira]

Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
70% of jobs are unadvertised, says it all, its aobut knowing people, and strnagely enough at uni the really welathy kids only hang out with eachother cause only they can afford to go out to expensive places or all the time.....

or you get some poor sod (no pun intended) who thinks that they can fit in with the croud and end up with a stupidly high overdraft...

[wheresmyplacebo]

Originally posted by Amira
or you get some poor sod (no pun intended) who thinks that they can fit in with the croud and end up with a stupidly high overdraft...

exactly

it means you cant build up good contacts even at good unis cause it costs you loads

my mates dad is a private dentist and is quite well off, can hang out with the wealthy arabs etc on his course but doesnt cause they arent fun and hes good with money but he knows them well still partily he admits its cause they know he aint poor

me i only know people doing things cause theyre good at them, so ill have a different set of contacts when im older me thinks

[Skive]

Who want's to be stinking rich anyway. In my experience money often turns people into arseholes.
And if you stop having to 'earn' your money life can become very boring.

[Yerascrote]

Originally posted by Skive
Who want's to be stinking rich anyway. In my experience money often turns people into arseholes.
And if you stop having to 'earn' your money life can become very boring.

yea they are wanks, i'd say i come from a pretty poor background, i've had it hard at times but that makes me a better person in general, there's more things in life than money and it's you have little that you realise this.

[Amira]

Originally posted by Skive
Who want's to be stinking rich anyway. In my experience money often turns people into arseholes.
And if you stop having to 'earn' your money life can become very boring.

not neccessarily...i have one customer at the bank who rakes it in by the millions (yes im talking pounds i did a quick conversion), he loves earning his money and he loves investing it even more to make more money....

Money doesnt turn everyone into arseholes just those who think because they have more money than the average person they can look down on them, and it will be those who when they lose all their money will be worse off than anyone else

Generally speaking from my experience this past month in work placement for uni, working in a bank can help you build up the best contacts, just figure out which ones are the ones worth fussing over, get them to like you and they will keep in touch with you and help you as much as they can and share their knowledge with you.

[The Matadore]

the immense majority of peeps have fuck all chance of ever being rich, though those lucky enough to reach university and being able to pay for the degree of their choice would have a fair chance to land a very good pay job regardless

I think this is a load of bollocks, the kind of view espoused by those who are bitter that they themselves didnt make it to the top.

You have the ability, you get to the top, thats all there is to it.

[Yerascrote]

Originally posted by Amira

Money doesnt turn everyone into arseholes just those who think because they have more money than the average person they can look down on them, and it will be those who when they lose all their money will be worse off than anyone else


yea but there's somethin i just hate about wealthy people, arrogant cu*ts at times

[Amira]

Originally posted by turlough
yea but there's somethin i just hate about wealthy people, arrogant cu*ts at times

at times being the keyword there and not all of them

[Yerascrote]

Originally posted by Amira
at times being the keyword there and not all of them

exactly, everyone's different, but in the general scheme of things i'd rather be a poor person whose had to fight for things than be some rich boy that just has the easy life.

[Amira]

Originally posted by turlough
exactly, everyone's different, but in the general scheme of things i'd rather be a poor person whose had to fight for things than be some rich boy that just has the easy life.

or alternatively being an upper middle class person and then working your way to the top....is my plan

[Namaste]

Originally posted by turlough
exactly, everyone's different, but in the general scheme of things i'd rather be a poor person whose had to fight for things than be some rich boy that just has the easy life.

Why?

[Yerascrote]

Originally posted by MoonRat
Why?

bcos i believe that life is a journey, you need to experience the lows to truly taste the highs, it's an adventure where you learn, being poor and fighting for something gives purpose and being to life, being rich and just sitting there lapping it up is just not appealing at all to me. must just be me.

[Man Of Kent]

Originally posted by Fiend_85
You'd be richer than 95% of the country on 50 grand a year.

Not true.

You may earn more but that doesn't make you richer.

Not spending it, is what would make you rich... ;)

[morrocan roll]

i live in the first world ...a lot smaller world than many of you think but ...most of us who live in the first world are rich ...most don't notice though.

[wheresmyplacebo]

Originally posted by The Matadore
I think this is a load of bollocks, the kind of view espoused by those who are bitter that they themselves didnt make it to the top.

You have the ability, you get to the top, thats all there is to it.

i know plenty of thickheads from private school who made it into uni and once your on your course, well in my dept. they want to keep you as long as you dont cause trouble...

[wheresmyplacebo]

Originally posted by turlough
bcos i believe that life is a journey, you need to experience the lows to truly taste the highs, it's an adventure where you learn, being poor and fighting for something gives purpose and being to life, being rich and just sitting there lapping it up is just not appealing at all to me. must just be me.

hmm id rather not have to worry continously aboutday to day bills but stil have to work for what i want so i appreciate them more

[Fiend_85]

Originally posted by Man Of Kent
Not true.

You may earn more but that doesn't make you richer.

Not spending it, is what would make you rich... ;)

Don't be pretentious.

[Namaste]

Originally posted by turlough
bcos i believe that life is a journey, you need to experience the lows to truly taste the highs, it's an adventure where you learn, being poor and fighting for something gives purpose and being to life, being rich and just sitting there lapping it up is just not appealing at all to me. must just be me.

So life is all about money then?

A lot of people where I live have a similar attitude, although they can be quite hostile if somebody even sounds stereotypically 'educated' (y'know, like using big words and stuff), it's almost like an inverted kind of snobbery.

You think that because somebody has money they experience a life of happiness from birth to death? You think they have nothing to fight for because money makes them complete?

I don't really understand what ya mean with your post... I'm on £4.50 an hour, but if I were on £20 an hour it wouldn't make a difference to my day. Granted if you have enough money and aren't in debt, have a wide screen TV and go to Florida every year you're physically more comfortable...

But other things in life... Family, relationships, self esteem, finding who you are and being passionate about living, that's what life's all about.

[morrocan roll]

Originally posted by MoonRat
So life is all about money then?

A lot of people where I live have a similar attitude, although they can be quite hostile if somebody even sounds stereotypically 'educated' (y'know, like using big words and stuff), it's almost like an inverted kind of snobbery.

You think that because somebody has money they experience a life of happiness from birth to death? You think they have nothing to fight for because money makes them complete?

I don't really understand what ya mean with your post... I'm on £4.50 an hour, but if I were on £20 an hour it wouldn't make a difference to my day. Granted if you have enough money and aren't in debt, have a wide screen TV and go to Florida every year you're physically more comfortable...

But other things in life... Family, relationships, self esteem, finding who you are and being passionate about living, that's what life's all about. :)

[Yerascrote]

Originally posted by MoonRat
So life is all about money then?


well it is an it isn't, money is whats needed to get through life but you appreciate the little things more when you don't have much money, thats a joy on its own.

[Whowhere]

As long as I've got enough money for the bills, the odd drink, and the odd night out I'm happy.

Most of the people I've ever met with a lot of money think they're above me because of my job, they don't like it when I do em though, the bastards.
I'm just waiting for "do you know who I am". To which my reply will be "no, do you know who I am?"
I'm so witty.:lol:

[Aladdin]

Originally posted by The Matadore
I think this is a load of bollocks, the kind of view espoused by those who are bitter that they themselves didnt make it to the top.

You have the ability, you get to the top, thats all there is to it. Not quite. Many areas are simply closed to Joe Bloggs. Recommendation and influence is all it takes (and often the only thing that counts) to reach boardroom positions.

Other careers are simply too costly for most people. Try to be a commercial airliner pilot. Unless you have at least 60 grand available to pay for all the required courses and training you ain't gonna make it.

[Dear Wendy]

Originally posted by MoonRat
So life is all about money then?

A lot of people where I live have a similar attitude, although they can be quite hostile if somebody even sounds stereotypically 'educated' (y'know, like using big words and stuff), it's almost like an inverted kind of snobbery.

You think that because somebody has money they experience a life of happiness from birth to death? You think they have nothing to fight for because money makes them complete?

I don't really understand what ya mean with your post... I'm on £4.50 an hour, but if I were on £20 an hour it wouldn't make a difference to my day. Granted if you have enough money and aren't in debt, have a wide screen TV and go to Florida every year you're physically more comfortable...

But other things in life... Family, relationships, self esteem, finding who you are and being passionate about living, that's what life's all about.

Very well put.
No one goes through this life without any problems. Not even Paris Hilton.

Personally, I know a lot of people with succes stories, and would like to point out that they are not as rare as some here try to make everyone believe.
It's all about dedication.

[Aladdin]

It is not that difficult to be successful. It is very difficult to be rich though.

But like Skive has said there is more to life than being rich. I can honestly say that I'd be perfectly happy if I could say I was comfortable and had no debt worries. I would describe such situation as successful.

[Disillusioned]

Originally posted by Aladdin
Try to be a commercial airliner pilot. Unless you have at least 60 grand available to pay for all the required courses and training you ain't gonna make it.

Sort of. But if you do it through the RAF and I think most commercial airline pilots originally worked in the RAF you can get funding as early as in Sixth Form. That's what my mates doing. Bit on it here, http://www.rafcareers.com/jobs/job_files/jobfile_pilot.cfm

So yeah I think he'll be committed to service in the RAF before he could go off and work for BA or whatever but to say you 'ain't gonna make it' if you haven't got 60 grand isn't really true.

[Namaste]

Originally posted by turlough
well it is an it isn't, money is whats needed to get through life but you appreciate the little things more when you don't have much money, thats a joy on its own.

The little things?

Like friendship? A kiss? Like a nice sunset or a wicked party?

How many affluent people do you know? And how do you know that the 'little things' aren't appreciated by well off people too?

I mean what are the little things?

[Yerascrote]

Originally posted by MoonRat
The little things?

Like friendship? A kiss? Like a nice sunset or a wicked party?

How many affluent people do you know? And how do you know that the 'little things' aren't appreciated by well off people too?

I mean what are the little things?

i'm not saying all rich people don't, i was just saying in general like i assumed you would assume i was talking in a general way (woah what a trip out). anyway, i'm talking about luxuries, like when we got the net, i was really excited and shit like that and i still appreciate it, a rich person prbably has 2 pcs and a few laptops that he can use whenever he wants, catch my drift yet.

[Dear Wendy]

Originally posted by Aladdin
It is not that difficult to be successful. It is very difficult to be rich though.

But like Skive has said there is more to life than being rich. I can honestly say that I'd be perfectly happy if I could say I was comfortable and had no debt worries. I would describe such situation as successful.

How much money equals rich then?

[morrocan roll]

Originally posted by Jacqueline the Ripper
How much money equals rich then? shit loads if you look at it from a masterialistc viepoint ...

[Namaste]

yea but there's somethin i just hate about wealthy people, arrogant cu*ts at times

Hrm...


'm not saying all rich people don't, i was just saying in general like i assumed you would assume i was talking in a general way (woah what a trip out).

It does look like you're talking in a general way. 'Rich' people can be ****s at times, as can people who have less money. Older people can be ****s, working class people can be ****s, white and afro carrebeans can be...

But the only thing that seperates people from each other in that sense, apart from perhaps the culture they're brought in to is money. Otherwise we're all completely human.

anyway, i'm talking about luxuries, like when we got the net, i was really excited and shit like that and i still appreciate it, a rich person prbably has 2 pcs and a few laptops that he can use whenever he wants, catch my drift yet.

Well why didn't you put that in the first place?

Christmas is can be exiting for anyone, especially young uns. The internet is something that exited you, well maybe a well off person would work all year and go on a world cruise and really appreciate that.

At the same time some people can be cut off and not happy at all because their family has disowned them, or they work so many hours and don't get to socialise.

It's society really... personally I believe that we're sometimes conditioned to believe that material wealth equals prosperity. In Bhutan happiness equals prosperity, shouldn't that be the case everywhere?

And rich... talking materialistically... in my area if you're on twenty grand a year you're fairly well off... but in London that ain't the case.

[Blagsta]

Originally posted by The Matadore
I think this is a load of bollocks, the kind of view espoused by those who are bitter that they themselves didnt make it to the top.

You have the ability, you get to the top, thats all there is to it.

Oh dear. So opportunity doesn't come into it? What a lovely fantasy world you live in.

[Namaste]

Originally posted by Blagsta
Oh dear. So opportunity doesn't come into it? What a lovely fantasy world you live in.

How hard is it to work hard in school and go to college?

Or to do an open access university course in your spare time whilst you work?

I hear a lot of people complain about being hard up and about how unhappy they are and yeah, some people have pushy parents who want them to do well, but now and again I have no sympathy for some...

For example the kids who gang up on the one in the class who was intelligent. The 'swot' or whatever. If they wanna get somewhere they can work for it... People on the dole as well I have no sympathy for, in my area at least there's always work.

However yeah, some people do have it bad, others just aren't academic enough to take a course and not fit enough for some lines of work and don't suit others.

maybe it's part chance, but also a lot of it goes to who you were as a kid. Whether you worked or rebelled... and whether it's the parents, the upbringing, the school... or the person's fault themselves that they didn't get a white collar job.

[Blagsta]

You totally miss the point. How hard is it to work in school and college? Well pretty fucking hard if your school is underfunded, with third rate teachers, no money for text books, a culture of violence, you live on an estate with high unemployment and drug abuse, your parents beat you, your role models are gangsters, there are no jobs or local facilities etc.
Honestly, some of you don't know you're born. :rolleyes:

[Man Of Kent]

Originally posted by MoonRat
How hard is it to work hard in school and go to college?

I guess that depends on the support you recieve from the school and your family...

Or to do an open access university course in your spare time whilst you work?

Funding?

Responsibilities?

[Aladdin]

Originally posted by Jacqueline the Ripper
How much money equals rich then? I guess it depends on each person's point of view. From within the context of this thread, I thought we were talking about really well-off people, those who own two or three houses at home and another abroad, own a nice boat worth half a million quid, buy their wives 10k diamond rings routinely for their birthdays... 'proper' rich if you know what I mean.

For that kind of lifestyle you would need at the very least a 300-400k a year salary. And that kind of money and job positions are very rarely indeed accessible for ordinary people, no matter how hard they try.

[Namaste]

Originally posted by Blagsta
You totally miss the point. How hard is it to work in school and college? Well pretty fucking hard if your school is underfunded, with third rate teachers, no money for text books, a culture of violence, you live on an estate with high unemployment and drug abuse, your parents beat you, your role models are gangsters, there are no jobs or local facilities etc.
Honestly, some of you don't know you're born. :rolleyes:

I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth, not saying that at all. There was violence in school, a lot of bullying, people smoking drugs in the toilets & drinking, racism, homophobia... But some people came out on top and really worked.

I know somebody from a council estate (Caia park in Wrexham, where they had race riots earlier last year) and she ended up in Cambridge. I personally don't believe it's impossible... But I do think schools could encourage kids more.

[Makoto]

Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
coz you'll never get rich from just working"...

said to someone i know in a cab

discuss

Yes you will. I know of a few people who have made 6 figruers from working hard. Get up of your arse and work hard and save or get a highly paid job.

[Namaste]

Maybe people don't believe in themselves enough to succeed academically, or to try new things.

[morrocan roll]

Originally posted by MoonRat
Maybe people don't believe in themselves enough to succeed academically, or to try new things. not everybody can sucseed ...theres only so much room you know.
the ammount of people going to university is laughable ...where are all the jobs and opportunities going to be for these people?
and remember ...someone has to clean the toilets.