Rangers

[Kermit]

...are sectarian vermin who should be shut down. And the fans should be shot.

Good to see that even the SFA believe O'Neill (http://www.football365.com/news/story_134868.shtml) and not some Hun cunt. (http://www.football365.com/news/scottish_news/story_134845.shtml)

[Miguel Sanchez]

oh please do shut the fuck up you mean too say that a celtic fan has never hurled sectarian abuse at a rangers player ever and plus you have jsut been racist yourself by sayin some hun ****

:confused: :confused:

[Bri-namite]

Originally posted by rossco
oh please do shut the fuck up you mean too say that a celtic fan has never hurled sectarian abuse at a rangers player ever and plus you have jsut been racist yourself by sayin some hun ****

Sorry mate, but you're being a typical head in the sand Hun by trotting out the same old "Celtic are just as bad" argument.

Rangers fans (not a minority) used to chant "No Blacks at Ibrox" at their own players. The majority of fans at games take great delight in reminding us of how the do revel in being up to their knees in the blood of Catholics. Hell, there were even Israeli flags in the stands after the death of Yasser Arafat.

There are no depths that these wankers won't stoop to.

This isn't a minority, it's the majority. It's probably too much to hope that this is the beginning of the end of Rangers Football Club and the disgusting filth that follow them, or any parent who brings their kid up to be a Rangers fan gets their kids taken off them.

But hopefully the SFA will hammer the fuck out of the club, because any other non-footballing orginisation that allowed that kind of behaviour to go on would have been shut down a long time ago.

[Man Of Kent]

Originally posted by rossco
oh please do shut the fuck up you mean too say that a celtic fan has never hurled sectarian abuse at a rangers player ever

So that makes it alright then, does it.

We've all heard it, from both sides, and it sucks. It's not big, it's not clever and it's certainly not acceptable. Saying that the other fans do it too makes no difference. Rangers fans are still sectarian scum.

[Iknowyourmum]

Most rangers fans are OK, I have to say that the protistants tend to be more bigoted than catholics but thats a gross generlisation,

Its not rangers players who chant bigoted things that get me its the Orange Marching Bastards.

Its not a minority who chant agreeded but it is a tiny minority who are ignarant biggots, most of those go on orange marches,

The most racist white people Iv ever met are rangers supporting, marching biggoted, orange bastards.


But even those who proudly say they hate blacks, deny their biggots (but they obviously are)

[Iknowyourmum]

Originally posted by Bri-namite
Hell, there were even Israeli flags in the stands after the death of Yasser Arafat.


Yeah so who gives a shit about that,

Weve got enough problems with northen Ireland thats not out fight or problem (thank fuck)

Theres a fair few Jews in Glasgow Id imagin they either dont care about the old firm or are evenly split Im not sure the point of this flag waving and its the first Iv heard about it.

they might just as well have been waving Chinease, or American flags for all that it matters to me.

[Kermit]

Originally posted by rossco
oh please do shut the fuck up you mean too say that a celtic fan has never hurled sectarian abuse at a rangers player ever and plus you have jsut been racist yourself by sayin some hun ****

Calling Rangers fans cunts uisn't racist, it's the truth.

Btw, I don't support Celtic.

Rangers' sectarian violence and abuse is endemic, and the club knows this and does nothing about it.

Remind me, when was the last time a Rangers player received death threats because of who he played for?

Oh, but of course Rangers are wonderful!!!

Face it, Rangers, and all their fans, are cunts who deserve to be shot like the rabid dogs that they are.

[pinkstar]

Just because the SFA have invited Martin O'Neill to make a formal complaint doesn't mean they are gonna do anything about it. Hopefully they are just inviting him to complain so they can tell him to fuck off.

Martin O'Neill is a wee peice of shit who is trying to detract attention from the fact his team were crap last Saturday and acted like the thugs most people (apart from Celtic fans) know they are. O'Neill is playing the media like usual and fannies like you are eating it up.

Plus the fact that he could have caused a complete riot at the end after parading Lennon around like a looney and shouting "Dirty Orange Bastards" makes him as bad as anyone.

Yeah sectarianism is a big problem in Scotland but were any of you at the game cos I certainly was. At one point the entire Celtic support were chanting "We support the IRA!!!" I honestly thought I must have been hearing things but everyone around me heard it and it was clear as day on Setanta as well. So if O'Neill is so worried about sectarianism then maybe he should get his own house in order. However, this seems unlikely since this is the man who said it wasn't his place to tell fans to stop sectarian chants. The man is sectarian himself! He wouldn't even wear a bloody poppy!!!

Plus does nobody remeber the incident with Ian Ferguson when he joined Dunfermline and he had to go through all the abuse from the Celtic fans? When asked about it O'Neill said he needed to be a big boy and get on with it cos its all part of football. Maybe he should listen to his own advice. But then again, that's not the Celtic way.

[Cuddilicious]

Originally posted by Iknowyourmum
I have to say that the protistants tend to be more bigoted than catholics but thats a gross generlisation

Was that really needed now?!
Huni I live in Belfast were Catholics and Protestants tore each others' heads off day in, day out. Those kind of people are just as bad as each other; especially the Celtic and Ranger fans.

[pinkstar]

Eh, Nacho Novo received death threats the other day!!!!!

[Bri-namite]

Originally posted by Iknowyourmum
Yeah so who gives a shit about that.

It's the fact that these sub-human scumbags just do things like that for a reaction that pisses me off.

I don't doubt that half these bigoted bastards don't have a clue what they're on about, but then again there's enough of the real bigots amongst them to educate them about the traditions of the club.

And Pinkstar, you can witter complete bollocks about Celtic all you like. Every single Hun I've ever had this displeasure of coming across justifies their disgusting behaviour by pointing at Celtic and saying they're just as bad, rather than acknowledge the problems.

Still, we can only hope for a couple of carpet bombs at Ibrox during the game tonight :thumb:

[Miguel Sanchez]

i was brought up to be a rangers fan it wasnt forced upon me i chose it myself am i a ****? do you even know me you sad sad tosser yes there are a large amount of rangers fans who are recist/bigots etc. i'm not one of them and yes they are scum but too say that every person that supports rangers should be shot is very fuckin sad im my opinion as for aberdeen fans dont get me started no respect at all and no i m not aiming this at you brian but some of your comments seem a bit blown out of proportion too me

anyway thats my two cents im not gonna bother repliying to this argument anymore cause i cant be arsed to listen to the views of some of the people who have postied in this thread

[JsT]

This has got a bit over the top hasn't it? Having said that, hardly suprising given the topic of discussion...

[Iknowyourmum]

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind
Was that really needed now?!
Huni I live in Belfast were Catholics and Protestants tore each others' heads off day in, day out. Those kind of people are just as bad as each other; especially the Celtic and Ranger fans.

OK point taked but I was talking about scottish people, wheres theres no exchuse,

But northern Ireland is a whole different thing, althrough im clued up on the situation there I have no experence of the streets, so I cant comment,
Of course theres too much hate on either side, much too much

[Iknowyourmum]

Originally posted by Kermit

Face it, Rangers, and all their fans, are cunts who deserve to be shot like the rabid dogs that they are.

Yeah thats just pure silly you dont even beleive it yourself

[Yerascrote]

here's the truth

there are secterian celtic and rangers fans but there are far far more secterian rangers fans, generally celtic fans are tolerant to rangers fans, if i see someone wearing a rangers top i wouldn't say nothing, i've been called a fenian **** and got chased once for wearing a celtic top, and what has shouting "we support the IRA" got to do with secterianism, i'm not going into the mechanics of it but put it this way, the IRA's cause has nothing to do with religion, alot of republican martyrs are presbyterian, its a common misconception and its very dangeorus to link the IRA and loyalists cause with catholicism and protestantism, cos they are seperate although we are lead to believe differently.

[Kermit]

Originally posted by Iknowyourmum
Yeah thats just pure silly you dont even beleive it yourself

Have you ever been introduced to sarcastic exaggeration before?

[Iknowyourmum]

Originally posted by Kermit
Have you ever been introduced to sarcastic exaggeration before?

Once at a party long ago, but think I was drunk at the time so cant realy remember.

[YouCrazyDiamond]

Originally posted by Bri-namite
Rangers fans (not a minority) used to chant "No Blacks at Ibrox" at their own players.

That is absolute bullshit, and if you're going to make such accusations then you might want to consider backing them up with some dates and facts.

We should never forget that on Mark Walters' debut for Rangers at Parkhead he was taunted throughout and had bananas thrown at him in the most vile display of racism that Scottish sport has ever seen. A few Celtic fans were even dressed in monkey suits. If you want to check that out then feel free to browse through the newspaper archives of the day to find out everything.

Mark Walters is a Rangers hero and the only Honourary Member of the Rangers Supporters Trust.

[YouCrazyDiamond]

Originally posted by Kermit
Remind me, when was the last time a Rangers player received death threats because of who he played for?

Alfie Conn - He won the European Cup-Winner's Cup with Rangers in 1972 and left to join Spurs and then Celtic. He played in a Scottish Cup winning side for Celtic against Rangers. Up until a couple of years ago he worked in a well-known Rangers pub.

Mo Johnstone - Played for Celtic. He left to join Nantes and then signed for Rangers. He now has to live in America due to the abuse and death threats that he received from Celtic fans. He stated in an interview that he couldn't live in Scotland these days.

See the difference?

Neil McCann and his family received abuse from Celtic fans the whole time he was with Rangers, purely because he's a Scottish Roman Catholic that signed for Rangers. He's well liked by Rangers fans and has been one of the best Scottish players at the club in recent years.

Derek Stillie received death threats from Celtic fans because of a game he played in for Dunfermline against Rangers!

Then just the other day we see Nacho Novo recived a death threat at his home after an Old Firm game.

These are just a few examples and I can't remember a Celtic player ever receiving death threats from Rangers supporters. Feel free to enlighten me.

[Cuddilicious]

In addition to the above who can forget the abuse referee Hugh Dallas took from the celtic crowds. Coins struck him causing him to need stitches; but oh no the mindless minority weren't finished there. No, they paid Hugh a wee visit to his home to check if he needed new windows, which he did after they were done visiting.

[Cuddilicious]

Originally posted by Kermit
...are sectarian vermin who should be shut down. And the fans should be shot.

You do realise that you are displaying the exact same sectarian hatred that you are accusing rangers fans of?!
Ya... great double standard. :thumb:

[Kermit]

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind
In addition to the above who can forget the abuse referee Hugh Dallas took from the celtic crowds. Coins struck him causing him to need stitches; but oh no the mindless minority weren't finished there. No, they paid Hugh a wee visit to his home to check if he needed new windows, which he did after they were done visiting.

I'm no Celtic fan, but they were entirely justified in that behaviour.

Anyone could see that. When Rangers fans start telling me that Dallas is their hero for winning the title at Parkhead for them, you know it's time to acknowledge that Dallas is a cheat.

[YouCrazyDiamond]

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind
In addition to the above who can forget the abuse referee Hugh Dallas took from the celtic crowds. Coins struck him causing him to need stitches; but oh no the mindless minority weren't finished there. No, they paid Hugh a wee visit to his home to check if he needed new windows, which he did after they were done visiting.

Kevin Dunne took a golf club to thirteen of Hugh Dallas' windows after that game. He terrorised the referee's family and his punishment was a £2,000 fine and the cost of repairs. Don't forget that Celtic allowed him to keep his season ticket as well.

That wasn't the only incident involving Celtic fans that night though. A car containing three men was stopped near the house. The men were asking for the location of Dallas' house and had on them an air rifle and a baseball bat. All three men were arrested and convicted. Two other men, also asking the whereabouts of Dallas' house, were arrested at their car and they had with them lengths of scaffolding. Another two guys were standing outside the referee's house screaming for him to "come out and fight" - One had an air pistol. They were also arrested and convicted.

And the reason for it all? Celtic lost an Old Firm game and the league at Parkhead that day.

[Kermit]

Still better than dragging Celtic's captain out of a car and battering him, wouldn't you say?

[Cuddilicious]

Originally posted by Kermit
I'm no Celtic fan, but they were entirely justified in that behaviour.

Anyone could see that. When Rangers fans start telling me that Dallas is their hero for winning the title at Parkhead for them, you know it's time to acknowledge that Dallas is a cheat.

Are you fucking high or are you just this thick all the time? Celtic fans are justified in attacking a man at his home just for doing his job? Guess what asshole it was a game of football! Agro goes on between fans all the time. If it had have been a group of Rangers fans attacking a man at home you'd have been screaming for them to be shot; no wait you already did that, moron.

[Bri-namite]

Oh dear.

Some of you seem to be missing the key point here - Rangers fans and everyone involved with the club (Dallas included) are sub-human filth.

I'll never forget Aberdeen v Rangers in January 2002, when a couple of these wankers hit Robbie Winters with coins when he was away to take a corner and then all hell broke loose. The looks of sheer horror on the faces of kids in the crowd when it all kicked off said it all.

Ask a Hun about why their club embraces such behaviour, and they point the finger at the other lot and say their just as bad. That says all you need to know.

I won't lie. I want us to beat Rangers every single time we play them, probably five times as much as I'd love us to beat anyone else (Celtic included).

[Cuddilicious]

And this will just go round and round.... and round

Bri-namite: Oh but Ranger fans did this and they did that. So they gotta be worse than celtic fans

Then Vice Versa for anyone else who tried to prove that actually Celtic fans are worse.

O my fucking god. Grow up! I have given you proof when Celtic fans have been absolute bastards, so has YouCrazyDiamond.

Then Bri-namite and that kermit lad has enlightened us with what ranger fans have done to make themselves look like utter bastards as well.

Which Proves Rangers and Celtic fans are as bad as each other.

And this is over football. FOOTBALL!!!

[Kermit]

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind
And this will just go round and round.... and round

Bri-namite: Oh but Ranger fans did this and they did that. So they gotta be worse than celtic fans

Then Vice Versa for anyone else who tried to prove that actually Celtic fans are worse.

O my fucking god. Grow up! I have given you proof when Celtic fans have been absolute bastards, so has YouCrazyDiamond.

http://lambcutlet.org/images/missingthepoint.png

We aren't talking about Celtic, we're talking about R*****s.

[Cuddilicious]

Originally posted by Kermit
We aren't talking about Celtic, we're talking about R*****s.

AND I have decided to enlighten you what the Celtic fans have done. Just cause you're just too narrow minded to admit that one side is as bad as the other :-/

[Kermit]

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind
AND I have decided to enlighten you what the Celtic fans have done. Just cause you're just too narrow minded to admit that one side is as bad as the other :-/

Yeah, but we're not talking about Celtic.

[Cuddilicious]

:rolleyes: Kermit you have way too much time on your hands that you seem to have lost your sanity.

Fucking grow up and try and leave your house once in a wee while so you can be reminded what the real world is like.

Celtic Fans are scum.
So are Rangers fans.

Reasons have been already been listed by a few posters.

[Kermit]

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind
Fucking grow up and try and leave your house once in a wee while so you can be reminded what the real world is like.

You need to go back to Insult College.

Celtic Fans are scum.
So are Rangers fans.

Yes.

Point?

[Bri-namite]

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind
AND I have decided to enlighten you what the Celtic fans have done. Just cause you're just too narrow minded to admit that one side is as bad as the other :-/

Nope, Rangers are worse IMHO.

A visit to Celtic Park as an away fan isn't that bad an experience (apart from the area it's in)

A visit to Ibrox on the other hand isn't a particularly enjoyable one.

Nazi salutes, racist chanting, songs taking great joy in the deaths of other humans, the PA system trying to stoke up bigoted chanting before the game, BNP sellers outside the ground etc.

There's a good chance you'll get a bottle/pie thrown at you too.

You can bleat all you want about Celtic being just as bad and going on about isolated incidents with fans taking it too far, but on the whole, Rangers fans are worse.

BTW, that's coming from someone who actually goes to games, not somebody from across the water who only follows the filth because their daddy did, and so did their grandpa etc etc etc...

[Cuddilicious]

Originally posted by Kermit
You need to go back to Insult College.

Yes.

Point?


haha... o m fucking hell have you any idea have sad you sound?!

My point was made about a page back if you can remember :-/
T'is like talking to an 8 year old :rolleyes:

[Cuddilicious]

Originally posted by Bri-namite
BTW, that's coming from someone who actually goes to games, not somebody from across the water who only follows the filth because their daddy did, and so did their grandpa etc etc etc...

...and round and round and round.
Where was I defending the Rangers Fans?!

Like a bunch of kids. Back and forth with accusations.

[Kermit]

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind
Where was I defending the Rangers Fans?!

By deflecting the point of the thread, div.

I said "Rangers fans are sectarian vermin", and you came back with "so are Celtic".

Which is of no relevance to anything, least of all the scum-ness of Rangers fans.

For the record, neither me nor Bri-namite are Celtic fans. So shut up about Celtic.

[YouCrazyDiamond]

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind
Celtic Fans are scum.
So are Rangers fans.

To label a large group of supporters in that way is ridiculous. I know a lot of Rangers fans are no angels but the point seems to have been missed here.

A section of the Celtic support went to the effort of dressing up in monkey suits for Mark Walter's debut at Parkhead when he joined Rangers, while other fans threw bananas at the player. That's taking racism to a seriously disturbing and sickening extreme.

In recent years, intimidation and harrassment of match officials has become commonplace amongst Celtic fans. The Dunfermline chairman even had a car load of Celtic fans at his house 'looking for him' after the League decided in 2002/03 - Around the same time as the Dunfermline 'keeper was receiving death threats.

Harrassment of opposition players and even their immediate family and relatives isn't unheard of these days as well where Celtic fans are concerned. Ask Billy Dodds and Neil McCann what their families have suffered, and why not ask Mo Johnstone why he had to move abroad?

This is the same set of fans that have had their stadium shut down in the past for bad behaviour and rioting. Thousands of these people were singing "We are the IRA" at the last Old Firm game. These are the people that interrupted a (non) minute (non) silence for September 11th with IRA songs live on BBC television before an away game. These are the same people that travelled to Manchester and revelled in their terrorists songs infront of people whose city had been bombed by the IRA. And again, the same people that had a "Provos on Tour" flag with them for a UEFA Cup match in Germany in the mid 90s.

They are not normal.

And speaking of untermenschen, how about the hundreds of Aberdeen fans that visit Ibrox twice a year and revel in the death of 66 Rangers fans in the Ibrox Disaster of 1971? Would these Aberdeen fans travel down south and sing songs glorifying Hillsborough or Heysel? I think not.

[Cuddilicious]

Originally posted by Kermit
By deflecting the point of the thread, div.

I said "Rangers fans are sectarian vermin", and you came back with "so are Celtic".

Which is of no relevance to anything, least of all the scum-ness of Rangers fans.

For the record, neither me nor Bri-namite are Celtic fans. So shut up about Celtic.

Why don't you shut the fuck up about Rangers and stop being a biggoted wee shite when you know fine rightly that both sides are wankers.

I did not 'deflect' the point you. I simply stated that we can't forget that celtic fans have had made some of their finest moments in being sectarian asswipes as well. This is about biggoted football fans, aint it? Or are you just trying to show yourself up to be a sectarian bastard as well by JUST slating the Rangers fans, just to fit in?!

My God, what do I have to do to get that through you thick head.

[YouCrazyDiamond]

Originally posted by Bri-namite
Rangers fans (not a minority) used to chant "No Blacks at Ibrox" at their own players.

So..... Did a mate of a mate whose Dad read in some fanzine that got it off a taxi driver who 'knows a guy' tell you this?

Feel free to let us all know when Rangers fans used to sing this at their own players.

[Cuddilicious]

Originally posted by YouCrazyDiamond
This is the same set of fans that have had their stadium shut down in the past for bad behaviour and rioting. Thousands of these people were singing "We are the IRA" at the last Old Firm game.

I remember my brother telling me that before. Is quite scary.

[Bri-namite]

Originally posted by YouCrazyDiamond

And speaking of untermenschen, how about the hundreds of Aberdeen fans that visit Ibrox twice a year and revel in the death of 66 Rangers fans in the Ibrox Disaster of 1971?

Complete and utter horseshit.

The last three times I was at Ibrox, there's been one or two fans (literally) who've started singing that song and they were promptly told to shut the fuck up.

That pales into insignificance compared to what a far greater proportion of your scummy lot sing each and every week.

Originally posted by YouCrazyDiamond
Feel free to let us all know when Rangers fans used to sing this at their own players.

Or in other words - "We didn't sing that song. Well we did, but it was at Bobo Balde. Oh and we made monkey noises and gestures at him too. But he's a dirty Fenian bassa. So that makes it OK"

I wonder what the reaction of Boumsong (a black Catholic) or Marvin Andrews would have been, had he been playing in that game.

It doesn't matter who they were singing it at at all, and whatever you might think, racism is bad whoever the players play for.

[Kermit]

Originally posted by YouCrazyDiamond
To label a large group of supporters in that way is ridiculous. I know a lot of Rangers fans are no angels but the point seems to have been missed here...

[Celtic fans] are not normal.

Hypocrite.

And I can't believe you've actually signed up to spout this shit.

[YouCrazyDiamond]

Originally posted by Bri-namite
Complete and utter horseshit.

The last three times I was at Ibrox, there's been one or two fans (literally) who've started singing that song and they were promptly told to shut the fuck up.

"One or two fans" don't make that much noise. It's hundreds of Aberdeen fans and it happens on every visit to Ibrox. So, would these travelling Aberdeen fans glorify the deaths of innocent football fans at Hillborough or Heysel on a visit down south?

That pales into insignificance compared to what a far greater proportion of your scummy lot sing each and every week.

So it's a case of "youze ur wurse than us"? See the irony here?


You said:

Rangers fans (not a minority) used to chant "No Blacks at Ibrox" at their own players.

So when did this happen? You seemed happy enough to mention it so why not let us know when you think this was sung by Rangers fans to Rangers players?

I wonder what the reaction of Boumsong (a black Catholic) or Marvin Andrews would have been, had he been playing in that game.

Jorg Albertz and Lorenzo Amoruso - Both Roman Catholics and both two of the most popular players seen at Ibrox since the Walter Smith era; Real fans' favourites. It's CELTIC fans that have a problem with the religion of Rangers place. Hence Neil McCann getting abuse and Mo Johnston having to live abroad due to death threats.

[spartaalbion]

Can't be bothered to read the whole of the post, but what about when Claudio Reyna played for Rangers and he was taking a corner and practically the whole of the celtic end was doing aeroplane signs soon after 9/11?

[Bri-namite]

Originally posted by YouCrazyDiamond
"One or two fans" don't make that much noise. It's hundreds of Aberdeen fans and it happens on every visit to Ibrox.

You're a liar - simple as.

If you know better, please do feel free to prove it.

Originally posted by YouCrazyDiamond
So when did this happen? You seemed happy enough to mention it so why not let us know when you think this was sung by Rangers fans to Rangers players?


It was sung at Ibrox during that match Bobo Balde got booed.

I've no idea if you had any black players playing at all during that match. To be honest, I couldn't care less if you did or not, I don't think that chant is acceptable whether it's at your own players or not.

In any case, it would seem you're saying that that kind of chant is fine as long as it isn't at one of your own players.

I think you're a racist.

Originally posted by YouCrazyDiamond

Jorg Albertz and Lorenzo Amoruso - Both Roman Catholics and both two of the most popular players seen at Ibrox since the Walter Smith era; Real fans' favourites.

Yup.

I bet Amoruso openly racially abusing a Dortmund put him a bit higher up in the Ibrox Hall of Fame, eh?

Not to mention spitting in people's faces.

Still, I suppose he epitomises everything Rangers Football Club is about :thumb:

[YouCrazyDiamond]

Originally posted by Bri-namite
If you know better, please do feel free to prove it.

You only need to attend a Rangers vs Aberdeen match to hear the chants. It happens every time Aberdeen visit Ibrox: The travelling supporters rejoice in the death of 66 football fans, and it will happen the next time Aberdeen visit. Anyone attending the match will be able to hear it.


It was sung at Ibrox during that match Bobo Balde got booed.

That'll be the match that Iain King referred to in his article a few months back then. The match that Bobo Balde DID. NOT. PLAY. IN. Iain King apologised for said article.


I've no idea if you had any black players playing at all during that match. To be honest, I couldn't care less if you did or not, I don't think that chant is acceptable whether it's at your own players or not.

You said that Rangers fans used to sing "No blacks at Ibrox" to their own players. You're quite clearly inferring that Rangers fans racially abused their own players. Absolute nonsense and you've dodged the question every time: When did this happen? Who was it sung to?


In any case, it would seem you're saying that that kind of chant is fine as long as it isn't at one of your own players.

Racism is as abhorrent as rejoicing in the deaths of football fans at a match. In Balde's case he was boo'd because he was Celtic's dirtiest player for a long time: Two off-the-ball elbows at Hampden within minutes, neither of which he was booked for, and almost crippling Ronald de Boer in the 2002 Scottish Cup Final being two prime examples.

[pinkstar]

This thread has become ridiculous.

Kermit, you were talking about Celtic earlier in the thread when you said something like "when was the last time a Celtic player received death threats". So you yourself are comparing Celtic and Rangers. It's just someting that always happens - Celtic and Rangers being compared as they are the 2 biggest clubs in Scotland at the moment and both have serious sectarian problems.

It seems to me that you don't actually know very much about Rangers and are just spouting the crap that you have read in the newspapers. You yourself are just coming across as a bigot.

And Brian, you cannot claim that Aberdeen fans don't sing about the Ibrox disaster all the time when they come to Ibrox or when Rangers visit Aberdeen. And don't get me started on the coing incident. yeah, it was disgusting but it doesnt mean that all Rangers fans were behing it - the minority of idiot fans were but there is that minority in every club. Just lik I'm sure not all the Aberdeen fans supported the fanny guy that jumped on the pitch and tried to karate kick Ricksen.

Here's an extract from a good article in the Daily Record by Jim Traynor (not that I buy that rubbish, honest!!) ...

"Today I must ask Martin O`Neill for forgiveness. I didn`t realise that he was such a humanitarian , a champion of good against the twin evils of sectarianiasm and racism.
I just didn`t know to be honest with you , but celtic fans have been putting me straight about their manager . They`ve been telling me for more than a week now just how wonderful he is and surely they can`t all be wrong .
So Yes I ask for forgiveness for my own folly . You see, I`ve always believed it is wrong to be sectarian or racist , no matter where you come from , or which team you support . Silly me , I`ve been misguided all these years.

Apparently its only Rangers fans who are bigots , Only those who favour Ibrox are sectarian and racist , although I`m now being told that other clubs throughout the country also have fans who routinely abuse players because of their religion and nationality.

I`m also being asked to believe celtic are immune to this unfortunate human condition , and I must admit I didn`t know that either , it seems they are free of sectarianism and racism and their boss has been lauded for having opened a debate on what we call Scotland`s curse through his action in the last old firm game when Neil Lennon was abused by a cross section of Rangers fans".

The article goes on to quote about the Ferguson comment of a few years ago and a number of other things that have been mentioned on here already.

[Kermit]

Originally posted by pinkstar
Here's an extract from a good article in the Daily Record by Jim Traynor

The Daily Rangers cannot possibly have a "good" article in it.

[Bri-namite]

Originally posted by YouCrazyDiamond
You only need to attend a Rangers vs Aberdeen match to hear the chants. It happens every time Aberdeen visit Ibrox: The travelling supporters rejoice in the death of 66 football fans, and it will happen the next time Aberdeen visit. Anyone attending the match will be able to hear it.

You're still a liar if you're saying it's any more than a couple of morons.

I can assure you I've never sung that song, and if I saw someone singing it then I'd tell them to shut the fuck up.

What about you? You ever sung "Hello, Hello"? Or if you saw others singing it, would you tell them to shut it?

I'd doubt it.

Originally posted by YouCrazyDiamond

The match that Bobo Balde DID. NOT. PLAY. IN.

Aw, that makes it OK then.

Next you'll be telling me your fellow Huns were just merely taking part in National Monkey Impression Day.

Originally posted by YouCrazyDiamond

You said that Rangers fans used to sing "No blacks at Ibrox" to their own players. You're quite clearly inferring that Rangers fans racially abused their own players. Absolute nonsense and you've dodged the question every time: When did this happen? Who was it sung to?

I've no idea whether it was sung at your own players or not. I do apologise if the absolutely outrageous statement I made wasn't completely 100% factual.

I don't think it matters which players the chants were aimed at to be honest. Rangers fans are still racist scum, whether it's their own players or any poor black opposition player with the audacity to run onto the Hunnery.

So maybe they were aimed at your own players, maybe they weren't. I still think it's out of order, but you seem to think it's fine so long as it's not at your own lot.

You can repeat the question all the time, but you and I both know you're dodging the real issue here.

Originally posted by YouCrazyDiamond

Racism is as abhorrent as rejoicing in the deaths of football fans at a match.

Just out of interest, is it as abhorrent in rejoicing in the deaths of Catholics every single week?

Do you partake in such behaviour? Or are you totally disgusted by it?

Answer the questions please, without any reference to how Celtic are just as bad.

[Cuddilicious]

I gotta ask Bri-namite but where in any of YouCrazyDiamond posts did you see that he agreed it was ok to be racist to an opposing player?!

As your argument is so lame and sectarian, I noticed you feel the need to have to put words in his mouth.

P.S. Message for Bri-namite: Kermits' Proctologist just called; saying you can pick up your tongue anytime tomorrow. :D

[Bri-namite]

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind
I gotta ask Bri-namite but where in any of YouCrazyDiamond posts did you see that he agreed it was ok to be racist to an opposing player?!

He seems to be outraged that I suggested that Rangers fans were racist to their own players, but he's not exactly scathing towards the Rangers fans who openly abuse black Celtic players.

Do keep up.

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind

As your argument is so lame and sectarian, I noticed you feel the need to have to put words in his mouth.

It's not, I'm just getting pissed off that he's blatantly lying about Aberdeen fans singing songs when I was there and it just didn't happen.

Unless he can prove otherwise, which he can't.

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind

P.S. Message for Bri-namite: Kermits' Proctologist just called; saying you can pick up your tongue anytime tomorrow. :D

Or in other words "I've lost the argument. I want my mummy :crying:"

To sum up - you're clearly a part-time Hun, I'd doubt you've been to a lot of games, I suspect you only follow them for religious reasons rather than anything else

Therefore, any opinion you have in this thread from now on is hereby rendered invalid.

[Kermit]

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind
P.S. Message for Bri-namite: Kermits' Proctologist just called; saying you can pick up your tongue anytime tomorrow. :D

Oh please, is that the best insult you can come up with?

Did you get dropped on your head when you were a baby?

[Cuddilicious]

Originally posted by Bri-namite
He seems to be outraged that I suggested that Rangers fans were racist to their own players, but he's not exactly scathing towards the Rangers fans who openly abuse black Celtic players.

Do keep up.

He simply asked when this happened and who to. AND yet you still can't come up with an answer. **Waits Patiently**

He isn't exactly defenfing their actions either unlike that asswipe Kermit who believes Celtic Fans were justified in their violent actions towards that referee.



It's not, I'm just getting pissed off that he's blatantly lying about Aberdeen fans singing songs when I was there and it just didn't happen.

Unless he can prove otherwise, which he can't.

And you havenn't exactly proved any of your accussations either :-/

He didn't accuse you personally that you were chanting that, but it is known that both sides do chant biggotted/sectarian things to each other. So theirs no point denying that.
Everyone knows what their reputation is like.


Or in other words "I've lost the argument. I want my mummy :crying:"

:lol:

To sum up - you're clearly a part-time Hun, I'd doubt you've been to a lot of games, I suspect you only follow them for religious reasons rather than anything else

Again you seem to feel the need in bringing religion into it. And it's people like you that follows this sectarian hate.

I don't support either teams though. So why pass that judgement upon me?!

[Cuddilicious]

Originally posted by Kermit
Oh please, is that the best insult you can come up with?

Did you get dropped on your head when you were a baby?

That's something my 9 year old niece would come off with as a come back.

Though in all seriousness...
Aww shit mon, I can't take your seriously anymore. Forget it!!

[Yerascrote]

THOSE STENHOUSEMUIR BASTARDS ARE THE WORST

seriously though, why are all you'se saying stuff like "in 1966 jimmy joe buckley did such a such that means all your fans are secterian ****s"

cruel2bkind, is it not your experience that celtic fans are alot more tolerant than rangers fans, generally, all celtic and rangers fans are normal good people, however, there are more bad rangers fans than celtic ones, sorry its true.

[pinkstar]

Turlough, that is a stupid thing to say. You can't make a sweeping statement like that.

I have lived in Glasgow my whole life and have been brought up as a Rangers fan. I have many friends who are Celtic fans. I have witnessed violence from both sets of fans.

When I was 11years old my dad took me to my first old firm game. When we were leaving a Celtic fan purposely drove his car into a group of Rangers fans. Celtic fans were shouting abuse at us the whole way up the road. This was to a man with two young girls and a wee boy!!

My boyfriend has been punched after a game while he was walking home just because he was wearing a Rangers top. Many of his friends have been chased home. This has happened to male friends of mine who are Celtic supporters as well.

My friend was the girlfriend of Mark Scott, the 15yr old boy who was killed by some psycho Rangers fan just cos he was wearing a Celtic top. The same thing has happened to Rangers fans.

Anyway, all I'm trying to show is that Rangers and Celtic both have problems, so there's no point in saying that it's only Rangers or as you said that "Celtic fans are more tolerant". What a load of crap.

I really think that the majority of you don't have a clue what you're talking about and are just getting your stupid opinions from the media.

Also, something else that has been pissing me off. At the game on the 20th, nobody anywhere around me was shouting sectarian or racist abuse at Lennon. Unless "Lennon, you're a wanker", "Lennon, Lennon, what's the score" and booing him each time he touched the ball fits that definition. It was the same abuse he gets at every ground in Sctland cos he is a twat. If he was getting sectarian abuse it was by the minority.

[Yerascrote]

Originally posted by pinkstar
Turlough, that is a stupid thing to say. You can't make a sweeping statement like that.

I have lived in Glasgow my whole life and have been brought up as a Rangers fan. I have many friends who are Celtic fans. I have witnessed violence from both sets of fans.

When I was 11years old my dad took me to my first old firm game. When we were leaving a Celtic fan purposely drove his car into a group of Rangers fans. Celtic fans were shouting abuse at us the whole way up the road. This was to a man with two young girls and a wee boy!!

My boyfriend has been punched after a game while he was walking home just because he was wearing a Rangers top. Many of his friends have been chased home. This has happened to male friends of mine who are Celtic supporters as well.

My friend was the girlfriend of Mark Scott, the 15yr old boy who was killed by some psycho Rangers fan just cos he was wearing a Celtic top. The same thing has happened to Rangers fans.

Anyway, all I'm trying to show is that Rangers and Celtic both have problems, so there's no point in saying that it's only Rangers or as you said that "Celtic fans are more tolerant". What a load of crap.

I really think that the majority of you don't have a clue what you're talking about and are just getting your stupid opinions from the media.

Also, something else that has been pissing me off. At the game on the 20th, nobody anywhere around me was shouting sectarian or racist abuse at Lennon. Unless "Lennon, you're a wanker", "Lennon, Lennon, what's the score" and booing him each time he touched the ball fits that definition. It was the same abuse he gets at every ground in Sctland cos he is a twat. If he was getting sectarian abuse it was by the minority.

i'm sorry but did you even read my post, i said why do you'se keep recalling individual incidents, you've made about 6 there, and yes, i also said that most celtic and rangers fans are decent people but rangers fans, well in my own experience in northern ireland are far more secterian, i don't know what scotland is like.

[Cuddilicious]

Originally posted by turlough
cruel2bkind, is it not your experience that celtic fans are alot more tolerant than rangers fans, generally, all celtic and rangers fans are normal good people, however, there are more bad rangers fans than celtic ones, sorry its true.

So why is in the Belfast city centre you see more people wearing Celtic Shirts than Rangers Top and there was an incident in the town when a girl let her Rangers necklace slip out of her top by an accident in the JJB store and one of the guys who worked in the store asked her how she would feel if a fenian beat her Cunt in. Remember that happened a few years ago.

AND when the last time Rangers won the league about three years ago, the Celttic fans in East Belfast walked up to the local protestant area and started riot which was on the news.

As Pinkstar said you get the minority of wankers from both sides. Sooo please don't give all that bullshit saying Celtic Fans are soo much more tolerant than Rangers fans.

[Cuddilicious]

Originally posted by Bri-namite
To sum up - you're clearly a part-time Hun

You continuely use the sectarian comment, 'Hun'. Change the word 'Hun' till another biggotted slur, e.g. nigger and see how exceptable that sounds!!!

[Bri-namite]

Originally posted by pinkstar

I really think that the majority of you don't have a clue what you're talking about and are just getting your stupid opinions from the media.

Oh please.

I'm afraid this debate is bound to come to an end soon, seeing as not one of you bluenosed bastards can defend the actions of your club, the players or the fans without pointing to Celtic and saying they're just as bad.

I can only speak from personal experience, but I generally find that I can have a pint with Celtic fans during a European match no problem at all, they make good company.

I just find that the majority of Rangers fans I've come across have been pathetic excuses for human beings and all-round bigoted filth.

Both collectively and individually.

And the really sad thing is that they aren't ashamed of it.

[Cuddilicious]

Originally posted by Bri-namite
...you bluenosed bastards...

And there goes another classic nsult from your good self :-/

[Bri-namite]

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind
And there goes another classic nsult from your good self :-/

Yet again you completely miss the point of the post to make a snide remark.

You're possibly the worst debater ever.

Although I had to laugh at the irony of this..

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind
You continuely use the sectarian comment, 'Hun'. Change the word 'Hun' till another biggotted slur, e.g. ****** and see how exceptable that sounds!!!

Well done, you're going to make it onto my sig :thumb:

[Cuddilicious]

Originally posted by Bri-namite
Yet again you completely miss the point of the post to make a snide remark.
Although I had to laugh at the irony of this..

Explain the irony???
I do love a good story.

You're possibly the worst debater ever.

Awwwk bless... How so then???


Well done, you're going to make it onto my sig :thumb:

Am I suppose to be flattered?! *shrugs*
Though saying that; if ya do that then people will see what a sectarian bigoted wee shit head you are.

[Bri-namite]

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind
Explain the irony???
I do love a good story.

Are you sitting comfortably?

Then we'll begin.

Even though you deny it, I think you're a closet Rangers fan.

And you're outraged that I'm using the word Hun, and you think if I used the word nigger instead I'd be in deep shit.

Bearing in mind Rangers fans are amongst the most racist people I've come across.

Ironic indeed.

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind

Awwwk bless... How so then???

Well aside from the fact that I've blown a massive hole in every single one of your arguments so far...

It usually helps if the person I'm debating with has an idea of what they're on about :rolleyes:

You don't, sadly.

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind

Though saying that; if ya do that then people will see what a sectarian bigoted wee shit head you are.

I'm a sectarian bigoted shit head because I think it's funny how a closet Rangers fan takes the moral high ground about bigoted language?

Go back to your doctor, your pills aren't working.

[Cuddilicious]

How am I a 'closet rangers fan'?
You do realise your argument is becoming weaker and weaker everytime you post. A few people have told you LOADS of incidents were Celtic fans aint helped their reputation. Yet I am still waiting for you lot to explain what Ranger Fans have done to make themself come across worse than any other football fan except when you gracefully tell us from your own experience :rolleyes:

Now I think.... I think I mentioned that I don't like Ranger Fans either as they are just as bad as Celtic fans. I don't follow the scottish football league so how does that make me a rangers fan????

Now if your are going to sit there and insult the Rangers Fans with sectarian/bigoted remarks; at least give hmmm... PROOF as to how they are ALL racist?

[Yerascrote]

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind
So why is in the Belfast city centre you see more people wearing Celtic Shirts than Rangers Top and there was an incident in the town when a girl let her Rangers necklace slip out of her top by an accident in the JJB store and one of the guys who worked in the store asked her how she would feel if a fenian beat her Cunt in. Remember that happened a few years ago.

AND when the last time Rangers won the league about three years ago, the Celttic fans in East Belfast walked up to the local protestant area and started riot which was on the news.

As Pinkstar said you get the minority of wankers from both sides. Sooo please don't give all that bullshit saying Celtic Fans are soo much more tolerant than Rangers fans.

:rolleyes: i asked a simple and polite quesiton and you gimme this shit, and i supposse in belfast it's only the celtic fans that get up to this type of behaviour, why do you keep going on about individual incidents, i said twice, don't do it, yet you and pinkstar did it, i just said, is it not your experience that celtic fans are more tolerant, obviously for you its not, well where i come from, a rangers fan can walk down the street in a rangers top alright, newry being a predominately nationalist city and all.

[Bri-namite]

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind
LOADS of incidents were Celtic fans aint helped their reputation. Yet I am still waiting for you lot to explain what Ranger Fans have done to make themself come across worse than any other football fan

YOU'RE NOT FUCKING READING THE THREAD PROPERLY.

I've already told you about the racist chanting at opposition players. I've already told you about how tens of thousands of them take great delight in mocking the deaths of Catholics every week.

I haven't touched on such topics as - the club cashing in on bigotry by producing orange away tops, high profile players signing "Fuck The Pope" on autographs, or Chief Executives singing bigoted songs at a club event.

That's worse than the actions of an average football fan, or an average football club.

You can deny it all you like and point to Celtic all you like, because it's easier than to admit there's something very wrong at that club.

I know more about this than you do anyway, so you can live in denial all you like, because you're wrong

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind
Now if your are going to sit there and insult the Rangers Fans with sectarian/bigoted remarks; at least give hmmm... PROOF as to how they are ALL racist?

Put it like this.

Anyone who's ever bought a Rangers scarf, a copy of the Rangers news, a Rangers replica strip, a ticket for a Rangers game, or anything else that goes directly into their coffers is funding a racist and bigoted organisation.

Not to mention the fans who go to games to make monkey noises or Nazi salutes.

I don't blame the BNP for making their pitches outside Ibrox, when you consider the type of filth that tend to own season tickets.

[Cuddilicious]

Originally posted by turlough


You are an idiot :-/
What's wrong with hearing the incidents? Does the truth damage your say against' Rangers Fans being the worst?

Where the hell in my post did I say that ONLY Celtic Fans do that? Please quote me cause I can't find it.

Bri-namite you are an absolute hypercrite!! When that YDC asked you for proof from your accussations you refused, yet you demand him to prove his. Ooo-My-Fucking-Lord :rolleyes:

And were have I denied that Rangers Fans, did that??

Because I am wrong? And that's it??
Oooo.... Scoooreee!!! Great Argument there Big Boy!!!

Anyone who's ever bought a Rangers scarf, a copy of the Rangers news, a Rangers replica strip, a ticket for a Rangers game, or anything else that goes directly into their coffers is funding a racist and bigoted organisation.

Oooo dear... how'd you work that one out then?!

[Cuddilicious]

Originally posted by Bri-namite
I haven't touched on such topics as - the club cashing in on bigotry by producing orange away tops, high profile players signing "Fuck The Pope" on autographs, or Chief Executives singing bigoted songs at a club event.

That's worse than the actions of an average football fan, or an average football club.

Now lets weigh this up...

Ranger Fans: Cashing in on top saying 'Fuck The Pope' and singing bigoted songs.

Celtic Fans: Attacks a referee on pitch and at his home causing him to need stitches and having to buy new windows.

What's worse there?!!!

[pinkstar]

I really don't think there's much point in continuing this argument.

No matter what is said Brian is always gonna have his opinion on Rangers fans, just like many Rangers fans will have opinions on Aberdeen fans. I do just want to say however that I'm not surprised you can't go for a nice drink with Rangers fans since you seem incapable of calling them anything other than 'huns' :rolleyes:

Nobody is ever gonna agree on this and it's gonna just go round in circles.

[Bri-namite]

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind
Now lets weigh this up...

Ranger Fans: Cashing in on top saying 'Fuck The Pope' and singing bigoted songs.

Celtic Fans: Attacks a referee on pitch and at his home causing him to need stitches and having to buy new windows.

What's worse there?!!!

You're an absolute fruitcake. That's hardly comparing like for like.

Anyway, my final words...

Both teams have probably the same amount of eejits who go OTT in them, I've never once denied that. And I'm sure there's been incidents when Rangers fans have stabbed Celtic fans too and vice versa.

It's a lot easier to deal with arseholes like that (i.e slam them in jail or ban them from every ground in Scotland), than it is to deal with an institution that has clearly become openly bigoted from the top (Donald Findlay) via the middle (Bob Malcolm) to the bottom (the PA man who presses the button to play such vile songs over the tannoy).

To compare something like that to a club like Aberdeen just because we've got a minority of fans who sing about the Ibrox disaster, well there's just no comparison.

You can call me whatever you like too, because at the end of the day, Rangers fans are arseholes.

[Cuddilicious]

Originally posted by pinkstar
I'm not surprised you can't go for a nice drink with Rangers fans since you seem incapable of calling them anything other than 'huns' :rolleyes:

Hahaha.... Very True!!!

Thank fuck they are your final words Bri-namite. As it's already been said, there is no hope in trying to explain anything to you as you already have made your mind up over Rangers Fans.

People like you I cannot stand due to you being a narrow minded, bigoted asswipe. Beautiful example you set yourself there. :thumb:

[Iknowyourmum]

I think theres too much bigitory on this thread that has been tolorated, I could make a similer case against black men, (thats been made against rangers supporters)and both would be untrue and missing the point, however one is tolorated and is more aceptable that the other.

Speaking as a Celtic supporter I think the biggoted attitute against rangers supporters is unfair and not appropiate for the modern scotland,

Iv hardly been to any matches so cant realy comment on the abuse displayed there,

But Iv met and know lots of both suppporters and havnt realy found much differnce most rangers supporters are decent scottish people as I said before the minority who are arseholes tend to be rascist orange marching bastards rather than just protostent rangers supporters.

[Yerascrote]

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind

People like you I cannot stand due to you being a narrow minded, bigoted asswipe. Beautiful example you set yourself there. :thumb:

tell us a few stories about rangers fans then in belfast intimidating celtic fans

[YouCrazyDiamond]

Originally posted by Bri-namite
I don't blame the BNP for making their pitches outside Ibrox, when you consider the type of filth that tend to own season tickets.

Why don't we just nail this one before it turns out like your "No blacks at Ibrox" statement? :)

Yes, there are BNP activists that stand around Ibrox occasionally on matchdays. They do similar around Tynecastle and (I think) Fir Park as well.

Firstly, these people require police protection to make sure they don't get a doing and they have taunts and abuse hurled at them by the odd passerby. I have never seen or even heard of someone approaching them as an interested party. The point is, you can't stop someone standing in a public place if that's what they want to do.

Secondly, the head bloke of the BNP is pro-United Ireland and a Sinn Fein sympathiser. Now that's hardly going to be popular around Ibrox now, is it? Think about it.

There seems to be a big problem with the whole "I heard from..." or "My mate told me..." mentality. Lies is allowed to spread and grow in the little warped minds of ignorant individuals who just wish what they were hearing was actually true. If you read "A Bluffer's Guide to..." then you'll always be caught out over time, right? :)

[Bri-namite]

No, but you know as well as I do that the BNP know fine well that you'll get uneducated neds lapping it up in the name of (what they consider) having a pop at Sellick.

Speaking of ignorance, you still haven't answered my questions.

[YouCrazyDiamond]

Originally posted by Bri-namite
I haven't touched on such topics as - the club cashing in on bigotry by producing orange away tops

Meanwhile, back on planet Earth...

If Rangers wanted to "cash in on bigotry by producing orange away tops" then they would do it every season, right? That would make good business sense seeing as the orange away top from a couple of seasons back help Rangers reach record replica kit sales. Orange doesn't clash with any other team's strip except Dundee Utd's, and we can wear the home top against them. Previous home kits (see 1999/00 away top, for example) clashed with some teams home AND away top, and the Rangers second strip was then very rarely worn. The orange away top was only sectarian in the tiny little warped minds of those people who really, really wished it was.

high profile players signing "Fuck The Pope" on autographs

"Players"? You mean "player". One isolated incident in which a Rangers player added "FTP" to the bottom of his autograph. He was quite rightly shot down by fans and the club, and told that it was unacceptable. The lady that asked for the autograph was no Rangers fan and specifically asked for it so she could run to Nil By Mouth. That's not the issue though, of course, but it is something to bear in mind.

or Chief Executives singing bigoted songs at a club event.

Again, less of the plural if you will. And anyway, this will be the Donald Findlay that left Rangers immediately after he realised the mistake he had made? So the club did NOT tolerate his actions and he has had nothing to do with Rangers FC since the incident?

[Bri-namite]

Originally posted by YouCrazyDiamond

If Rangers wanted to "cash in on bigotry by producing orange away tops" then they would do it every season, right?

You're honestly telling me that nobody at the club during the whole time the kit was being designed/developed even considered the connotations of the colour and think that it might be a bit of a bad idea?

For a club that claims to despise and do everything in it's power to stamp out bigotry, that's one hell of an oversight.

I'm pretty sure when I say that an orange away top would sell very well down Govan way, and the marketing department knew this.

The day Rangers produce a green and white away kit, then I might take your point.

Originally posted by YouCrazyDiamond

So the club did NOT tolerate his actions and he has had nothing to do with Rangers FC since the incident?

There wasn't much else they could do. They at least have to be seen to clamp down on the bigots.

That doesn't mean it's not done with a heavy heart.

Like the time they banned Simply The Best because the fans were adding bigoted lyrics.

Only to bring it back again. And now we've got the joys of the Dambusters march pumping out of the tannoy every other Saturday. And whilst this might not be bigoted behaviour in itself, it's hardly discouraging it, is it?

I'll applaud Rangers once they start banning every fan who sings about being up to the knees in other human blood, because I think we're all agreed that those are the actions of the bigoted.

[Cuddilicious]

Originally posted by turlough
tell us a few stories about rangers fans then in belfast intimidating celtic fans

And what has that got to do with what I was saying.... :confused:

[pinkstar]

Ok, I know I said I wasn't gonna post anything else on here but something Brian said has made me do so.

The whole Dambusters thing I just don't get. i'm assuming you have got this off the radio after a certain football commentator has been commenting on it recently? The thing I don't get is how that tune is perceived as sectarian? I honestly don't. Celtic used to play it until recently before games and last weekend Dundee were also playing it. It's a pretty common tune to play at football grounds as it is the kind of thing that gets the crowd going.

I'm not being sarcastic or anything, I just genuinely don't understand why its all of a sudden considered sectarian. :confused:

[Bri-namite]

Originally posted by pinkstar

I'm not being sarcastic or anything, I just genuinely don't understand why its all of a sudden considered sectarian. :confused:

Because of the connotations, it's goes nicely with waving the Union Jack :rolleyes:

It's not sectarian in itself, but I just think Rangers and Celtic need to be careful about what they play over the tannoy because both clubs need to be seen to discourage the bigots rather than give them any excuse to start all this sectarian shite.

I think you know what I mean.

[Yerascrote]

Originally posted by Cruel2BKind
And what has that got to do with what I was saying.... :confused:

saying i'm not a bigot then rounding off 4 or 5 incidents when celtic fans have done trouble and none for rangers fans doesn't exactly give the right impression now does it.

[Cuddilicious]

Originally posted by turlough
saying i'm not a bigot then rounding off 4 or 5 incidents when celtic fans have done trouble and none for rangers fans doesn't exactly give the right impression now does it.

My reason was simple in why I reminded you about those incidents.

I did NOT ONCE say, only celtic fans cause trouble. If you can stretch your memory a little further you'll also notice I said that I aint exactly fond of Rangers Fans either as both sides can be bigoted. It's not just about football when Rangers and Celtic play which is why I dislike most of them. Not saying all Fans bring it down to religion but the minority does enough to put me off both sides.

Following me now, are you?!