america's running us into the ground.....

[Senor Miguel]

not only financially, as the world's economy depends highly on the state of the dollar, which is in a right state and looks to get worse....

not only through global stability, threatened further by our crusades into afghanistan and iraq, virtually the whole middle east distrusts america and their motives, with good reason.......

through numerous other foreign policies which impoverish and piss the rest of the world off.......

the cheeky buggers only account for 4% of the population, yet they produce 25% of the pollution worldwide. my message to you americans who know all this and still cant see how you're fucking the rest of us up, shove those gas-guzzlers up your ass.

[Clandestine]

5% of the world's population apollo.

[The Matadore]

. my message to you americans who know all this and still cant see how you're fucking the rest of us up, shove those gas-guzzlers up your ass.

Your an asshole.

Simple as that.

[Renzo]

Originally posted by The Matadore
Your an asshole.

Simple as that.

Why?

Why should the rest of the world suffer because the Americans 'need' these Massive Gas guzzling cars just to make trips to the shops? Is there something wrong with smaller cars?

[Aladdin]

Ditto Kyoto agreement.

[ShyBoy]

If America was still run by native american indians, I excpect (at least environmentally) we would be far better off. We are no innocents in this though, it was Britain who started the first industrial revolution after all. We were the source of all the pollution. But in this day and age when we know it is damaging not only our, but our childrens', and our children's childrens', and every animals' and every plants' Earth, because after all we are not the sole occupants. You wouldn't go into a flat and start a fire to make whatever until the walls were completely black with soot would you?

[Blagsta]

Originally posted by The Matadore
Your an asshole.

Simple as that.

Nicely reasoned argument there as usual.

[dr_carter]

Originally posted by The Matadore
Your an asshole.


I think you'll find the correct term in Britain is 'arsehole', arsehole :)

[Senor Miguel]

5% i stand corrected, you're still polluting our air.........oh im an arsehole? if you approve of america's actions i cant think of an appropriate superlative, they are reckless in their regard towards the rest of us, and if you dont like it, you must be anti-american and hey presto your a terrorist, so they've got that wrapped up nicely.......dont get me wrong im sure the people are nice enough, but if they are too dumb to see their government is turning the rest of the world against them, then quite frankly they're just as bad......ignorance doesnt excuse stupidity.

[Clandestine]

Youre preaching to the choir, my boy! ;)

[Reese_86]

apollo, i see your point, but you can't put all Americans into this stereotype...

[Disillusioned]

America’s record on pollution is pretty shameful. And as Michael Howard pointed out Blair has ‘squandered his position as Bush’s close ally in Iraq’ to try and get Bush to do agree to Kyoto…

[Disillusioned]

Originally posted by Angel121077
apollo, i see your point, but you can't put all Americans into this stereotype...

True. It’s unfair how many make xenophobic stereotypes about Americans and massive generalisations.

[morrocan roll]

Originally posted by Angel121077
apollo, i see your point, but you can't put all Americans into this stereotype... oh yes he can if the american people don't vote to remove the chimp from the whitehouse ...oh yes he can ...how many americans do you see downsizing their energy consumption ...how many even understand whats happening?
the more people scream and kick against this absurdly greedy nation the more of them might stop and think.

[Kentish]

Australia produces more CO2 per capita.

Not all Americans are stupid and inward-looking. Sadly they have chosen a leader who is.

[dr_carter]

Originally posted by Kentish
Australia produces more CO2 per capita.

Not all Americans are stupid and inward-looking. Sadly they have chosen a leader who is.

Yes, but there are 20 million Australians. There are 300 million Americans. Even if Australia does create more CO2 per capita, this still poses much less of a problem than America's contribution per capita, because there are so many of them. I realise that to say all Americans are gas guzzlers is stereotyping, but you cannot avoid the amounts of emissions they produce.

[morrocan roll]

they aint going to listen unless the whole nation is targeted as being responsible.
when americans discover that 80% of the worlds population is pissed off with them ...they might actualy do something about it.

[marv]

they aint going to listen unless the whole nation is targeted as being responsible.
when americans discover that 80% of the worlds population is pissed off with them ...they might actualy do something about it.


Really from my impression i think they couldn't give a shit what the rest of the world thought of the USA.

[Kentish]

Originally posted by dr_carter
Yes, but there are 20 million Australians. There are 300 million Americans. Even if Australia does create more CO2 per capita, this still poses much less of a problem than America's contribution per capita, because there are so many of them. I realise that to say all Americans are gas guzzlers is stereotyping, but you cannot avoid the amounts of emissions they produce.
Point being that if you are going to attack any nation for being gas-guzzlers you should start with Australia, not the one we love to hate.

[morrocan roll]

Originally posted by Kentish
Point being that if you are going to attack any nation for being gas-guzzlers you should start with Australia, not the one we love to hate. point being if there were ten australians causing a mess ...and a 100 americans ...we'd start with the americans. plus the rest of their global attitude ...this aint just about emissions.

[Kentish]

No. Play fair. If you're going to focus on emissions, make sure you have perspective. America may produce more emissions overall but individually they are not as bad as the Australians.

[morrocan roll]

Originally posted by Kentish
No. Play fair. If you're going to focus on emissions, make sure you have perspective. America may produce more emissions overall but individually they are not as bad as the Australians. it's not the individuals who are choking us ...it's a huge nation. surely the big problems should be dealt with first.
plus the fact that they are making the world a more dangerous and unstable place for all of us.
people were frightened that bush might actualy get into the whitehouse ...frightened cos of the wars ...the poverty ...the global instability that would happen should he get into office ...here we are a few years down the road and all these things have come to pass ...the american nation needs waking up.

[Kentish]

:p

[morrocan roll]

Originally posted by Kentish
:p let me rephrase that ...the australians aren't dragging us screaming ...to the fires of hell.

[dr_carter]

Originally posted by Kentish
Point being that if you are going to attack any nation for being gas-guzzlers you should start with Australia, not the one we love to hate.

Australia has to survive, they barely make any money from exports so they essentially have to be self sufficient in many aspects if they're to continue to exist as a nation. As a nation, they are one of the least troublesome.

[The Matadore]

when americans discover that 80% of the worlds population is pissed off with them ...they might actualy do something about it.

I think its great that they actually dont care.

[morrocan roll]

Originally posted by The Matadore
I think its great that they actually dont care. i'll bet you fifty quid that within the not to distant future ...you'll regret saying that.
when the chimp brings the global economy to its knees ...when your freedoms are gone ...when there isn't enough food to go round ...when the streets are ablaze with lawlesness ...
then tell me your still glad the americans don't give a fuck.

[Aladdin]

Originally posted by The Matadore
I think its great that they actually dont care. You need help.

[Clandestine]

I can see Matadore now as an old man explaining to his grandchildren how he cheered for those who mortgaged their economic prospects to the hilt and removed the last safeguards to complete corporate degradation of the remaining life sustaining elements of our biosphere so they could wage a bogus war against a tactic that could not be stopped by guns and bombs.

As they listen attentively, breathing through respirators, he can reiterate how glad he was that Americans didnt give a shit about what anyone else thought.

[morrocan roll]

reminds me of a line from a leonhard cohen song ...
'take the only tree thats left and stuff it up the hole in your culture.'

[Blagsta]

Originally posted by The Matadore
I think its great that they actually dont care.

Well they're gonna reap what they sow then. 9/11 being a case in point.

[Fiend_85]

Originally posted by The Matadore
I think its great that they actually dont care.

Actually, as I understand it there are many people in the US that are concerned about the opinion of the rest of the world. We're supposed to love america, and when we don't, in fact, when we're furious, it begs the question 'why?'.

It's not great to 'not care' about what the world thinks, we all need to be held accountable to the world community, no-one is any good without allies. America may be the world's only superpower, but if they piss enough people off they won't stay there.

[Reese_86]

Originally posted by Fiend_85
Actually, as I understand it there are many people in the US that are concerned about the opinion of the rest of the world.

True, we do care about what the rest of the world thinks of us...


and we have many people who do care about the environment and are trying to fight against the government

[Whowhere]

They're not doing a very good job of it, Bush is still in power.
;)