adsa stops selling eggs to kids

[wheresmyplacebo]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3750690.stm


asda is banning selling of all eggs to kids in the build up the halloween to stop kids egging houses for halloween


only a fuckin wal-mart owned company could do this with its 'christian values'

[The Doc]

It's hardly a case of the majority suffering because of the minority. How many ten year olds will go and buy a carton of eggs because Mummy is going to make them an omelette for tea on the 30th October?

Edited to swap the minority and majority around.

[Fiend_85]

Actually, there's a tescos near my old school, and two other grammar schools at the end of term it doesn't sell flour or eggs to students. Simply because it's a pain in the arse. It doesn't have to be anything to do with religion.

[Blagsta]

We used to egg people at Halloween.

[wheresmyplacebo]

Originally posted by Fiend_85
Actually, there's a tescos near my old school, and two other grammar schools at the end of term it doesn't sell flour or eggs to students. Simply because it's a pain in the arse. It doesn't have to be anything to do with religion.

what, why talk about religion, the only reason i mentioned walmart and its chrstian values is cause it likes to stop selling things cause it finds them wrong, like lads mags and songs with 'explicit' lyrics that arent that explicit


and what about a kid going to buy some eggs or flour for his parents down the road or something???

[queenmab_roo]

yep and when i worked at tescos, we weren't allowed to sell eggs to anybody under 18 at halloween either.

[Fiend_85]

Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo

and what about a kid going to buy some eggs or flour for his parents down the road or something???

Then they'll get turned away, it's only for a couple of days.

[wheresmyplacebo]

Originally posted by Fiend_85
Then they'll get turned away, it's only for a couple of days.

thats just wrong though, why should a person be denied service when they havent done anythying wrong, and dont plan to


like the curfew issue

[Fiend_85]

Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
thats just wrong though, why should a person be denied service when they havent done anythying wrong, and dont plan to


like the curfew issue

I think the majority will support this short term 'ban'. It's not fair on everybody, but it's fair on the people who have to clean egg and flour of their cars and houses in the morning.

[wheresmyplacebo]

well they could just not serve those they suspect will use it for vandalism purposes, rather than a blanket ban

[Fiend_85]

Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
well they could just not serve those they suspect will use it for vandalism purposes, rather than a blanket ban

You can never really tell though can you. A two day blanket ban isn't the end of the world.

[Kentish]

Prevention is better than cure I guess.

As for the scenario of the kid being sent for some eggs for an omlette, presumably that wouldn't count as a group of teenagers intent on an egging. Common sense is all that's required.

ps Asda can sell anything it wants as far as I am concerned. Their shop, their choice.

[wheresmyplacebo]

Originally posted by Kentish
Prevention is better than cure I guess.

As for the scenario of the kid being sent for some eggs for an omlette, presumably that wouldn't count as a group of teenagers intent on an egging. Common sense is all that's required.

ps Asda can sell anything it wants as far as I am concerned. Their shop, their choice.

accordinbg to that strand of thinking i could not let black people in due to the increased amount of crime amongst them even if theyre innocent individually

[Fiend_85]

Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
accordinbg to that strand of thinking i could not let black people in due to the increased amount of crime amongst them even if theyre innocent individually

http://lambcutlet.org/images/missingthepoint.png

[Kentish]

^ Quite ^

They can sell what they want to whoever they want. If ASDA had a racist policy of not selling to black people they would quickly find that customers would go elsewhere. If they have a policy of not selling eggs to vandals, they might just get some support from past egging victims.

[Braineater]

They'll just buy them at Tesco.

There's something very Beavis and Butthead about it.

"We're like uh huhuhuhuh gonna make an omlette or something huhuhuhuhuh"
"Yeah huhuhuhuhuhuhuh yeah huhuhuhuhuh, like October 31st huhuhuhuhuhuhuh"

[Disillusioned]

Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
what, why talk about religion, the only reason i mentioned walmart and its chrstian values is cause it likes to stop selling things cause it finds them wrong, like lads mags and songs with 'explicit' lyrics that arent that explicit

I don’t think Christian values have anything whatsoever to do with it as others have pointed out on this thread…But anyway even if it was connected to the store’s values I can’t really see the problem. It’s their shop and it’s up to them what they sell, what kind of right do you think you have to say what a shop can and cannot sell?

If I owned a shop my values would come into it; I wouldn’t for example sell the BNP’s newspaper (Don’t know if they have one but say if they did).


and what about a kid going to buy some eggs or flour for his parents down the road or something???

Lol how naïve are you? I’ve bought flour and eggs at the supermarket before when I was younger…and er never for my parents ;) Out of the kids buying flour/eggs the proportion that are innocently buying it for their parents will be so small...

[dr_carter]

I think i'll push for this this year from the managers, i'm sick of little shits who think they can do what they like on Halloween. It'll mean another supervisor on as well as me just to keep an eye on it though...

[Carriage Return]

Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
[url]

only a fuckin wal-mart owned company could do this with its 'christian values'
Hmm, the ASDA near us has started selling mutton - aparently as part of a halal range. Hardly Xtian values

[SuzyCreamcheese]

it does actually say in the artical that shopkeepers will use their discretion, and that if someone comes in buying milk, bread eggs etc, then they would be allowed to serve them.

[morrocan roll]

i can't believe this thread has gone on for so long ...

[dr_carter]

Originally posted by Carriage Return
Hmm, the ASDA near us has started selling mutton - aparently as part of a halal range. Hardly Xtian values

I've always interpreted true Christian values to be as understanding and tolerant, indeed generous, to all other cultures, with the exception of those which violate basic human rights, or try and convert Christians to their religion.

[Carriage Return]

Originally posted by dr_carter
I've always interpreted true Christian values to be as understanding and tolerant, indeed generous, to all other cultures, with the exception of those which violate basic human rights, or try and convert Christians to their religion. sorry, I was referring to the "Christian Values" as expressed by those who use the phrase

[katchika]

Sometimes things like this can go too far.

I remember when I was younger, going with my sister to buy matches so we could light the fire in our house. The woman in the shop refused to sell them to us, so we had to freeze for hours.

It annoys me when young people are blamed for everything, when it's a minority of idiots who are responsible for causing trouble.

[Whowhere]

I'm personally going round all the local shops in the run up to Halloween, requesting that they follow suit.
Of course they can use their best judgement, but if they want their shops egging and flaming teepees on their houses then so be it.

There's nothing draconian about it at all, it's an attempt to maintain the peace and to allow the younger children to walk around doing their halloween thing without being attacked by the older kids.
I've also warned the little brats that if a single egg lands on my uniform the thrower is gonna be done for either assault or criminal damage. Not decided yet :D

[wheresmyplacebo]

Originally posted by Whowhere
I'm personally going round all the local shops in the run up to Halloween, requesting that they follow suit.
Of course they can use their best judgement, but if they want their shops egging and flaming teepees on their houses then so be it.

There's nothing draconian about it at all, it's an attempt to maintain the peace and to allow the younger children to walk around doing their halloween thing without being attacked by the older kids.
I've also warned the little brats that if a single egg lands on my uniform the thrower is gonna be done for either assault or criminal damage. Not decided yet :D

if you stopped selling alcohol to adults over xmas due to amount of drunk driving deaths that happen at that time youd get outroar from dults asaying "we have rights you know"

[Kermit]

Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
if you stopped selling alcohol to adults over xmas due to amount of drunk driving deaths that happen at that time youd get outroar from dults asaying "we have rights you know"

You really aren't grasping the point, wilfully or otherwise.

It will be obvious if kids are buying flour and eggs for pranks or to bake a cake. For instance, there won't be 17 lads all buying flour and egg.

Fair play to ASDA I think. I don't see what the problem is.

[Whowhere]

And?
The Police are already severely restricting alcohol availability in the city and it seems to be having an effect.
I get far fewer calls to underage drinkers since we started clamping down on them, and far fewer to drunk and disorderly since we started fining them £80 everytime.

If banning the sale of eggs and fireworks before the run up to those events improves the quality of life for the people who pay my wages then so be it.


By the way, there are laws in place for dealing with people who drink too much, but nothing anywhere about people who chuck eggs at houses.

[wheresmyplacebo]

Originally posted by Kermit
You really aren't grasping the point, wilfully or otherwise.

It will be obvious if kids are buying flour and eggs for pranks or to bake a cake. For instance, there won't be 17 lads all buying flour and egg.

Fair play to ASDA I think. I don't see what the problem is.

if they said to their staff as practice "if someone looks like theyre going to buy eggs to cause vandalism" i wouldnt complain, id compliment them, but theyve done a blanket ban which in my opinion is completly unjust, the ends dont justify the means

and whowhere, i werent on aobut underage drinkers - i said "at xmas there are lots of deaths caused by drink driving, if the government forced all shops to stop selling alcohol over the xmas period as it would stop people getting drunk - the public would go into outcry over how their rights have been removed"

yes sure its just eggs, but its the principle

[Kermit]

What on earth are you wittering about?

How many kids will go into a shop and buy 52 eggs and 10 bags of flour for a cake?

*sigh*

The drink driving point is completely irrelevant. As you well know.

[wheresmyplacebo]

Originally posted by Kermit
What on earth are you wittering about?

How many kids will go into a shop and buy 52 eggs and 10 bags of flour for a cake?

*sigh*

The drink driving point is completely irrelevant. As you well know.

actually no i find it a good analagy


and they havent banned suspicious buys or advised their staff to look out for suspicioous buys, theyve just done a blanket ban on all kids

[Whowhere]

I mentioned about my place placing restrictions on the sale of alcohol, and how it's already being done.

A blanket ban at christmas won't happen for several reasons:
1.There are already a multitude of offences for alcohol consumption which are actively enforced. There aren't any for throwing eggs at houses.

2.It's easier to police alcohol consumption because it takes place in a relatively confined area, and those who are drunk can be found in one place. ie the pub. Kids intent on causing trouble are normally running around a housing estate. I don't know where you live but where I work the estates are rabbit warrens, and unless you have a team of about 6 officers it's impossible to catch people.

3.Money, a blanket ban on alcohol would cost a fortune, both in actually enforcing it and through the loss of VAT and other taxes. Requesting that shops ban the sale of eggs to under 18's for 2 days won't cost anything. And to actually see that a massive supermarket is willing to put people ahead of profit is a refreshing one.

[wheresmyplacebo]

Originally posted by Whowhere
I mentioned about Notts placing restrictions on the sale of alcohol, and how it's already being done.

A blanket ban at christmas won't happen for several reasons:
1.There are already a multitude of offences for alcohol consumption which are actively enforced. There aren't any for throwing eggs at houses.

2.It's easier to police alcohol consumption because it takes place in a relatively confined area, and those who are drunk can be found in one place. ie the pub. Kids intent on causing trouble are normally running around a housing estate. I don't know where you live but where I work the estates are rabbit warrens, and unless you have a team of about 6 officers it's impossible to catch people.

3.Money, a blanket ban on alcohol would cost a fortune, both in actually enforcing it and through the loss of VAT and other taxes. Requesting that shops ban the sale of eggs to under 18's for 2 days won't cost anything. And to actually see that a massive supermarket is willing to put people ahead of profit is a refreshing one.

offf ona tangent i believe you are....

im not on about the economics of selling alcohol, i was saying HYPOTHETICALLY if you told shops to not sell alcohol to sotp people drink driving, as from what youvve said before the ends justifies the means, there would be a public outcry at how our right to buy alcohol has disappered

[Kermit]

Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
actually no i find it a good analagy

Well that makes one of us.

It is responsible vendoring. Just as pub license holders are required to be responsible and not sell to very druink people.

It is not illegal to be drunk, though. Which is why your point is worthless.

and they havent banned suspicious buys or advised their staff to look out for suspicioous buys, theyve just done a blanket ban on all kids

Yeah.

Because most, if not all, kids will be doing something suspicious.

[wheresmyplacebo]

Originally posted by Kermit
Well that makes one of us.

It is responsible vendoring. Just as pub license holders are required to be responsible and not sell to very druink people.

It is not illegal to be drunk, though. Which is why your point is worthless.

[b]

Yeah.

Because most, if not all, kids will be doing something suspicious.

as i said, if they said to their staff "if someone looks like they buying eggs to commit a crime with them, dont serve them" that would be okay as you just compared with shops not selling to drunks...

and 2nd your getting old :p egg and flours and end of term are a tradition :p

[Fiend_85]

Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo

and 2nd your getting old :p egg and flours and end of term are a tradition :p

It's a pain in the arse is what it is.

[Kermit]

Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
and 2nd your getting old :p egg and flours and end of term are a tradition :p

They are.

And, miserable and boring as I am, I hated it then too.

Kids should all just fuck off and die. It'd please me greatly.

[Whowhere]

Originally posted by Kermit


Kids should all just fuck off and die. It'd please me greatly.


:lol:

[Kermit]

I [presume you're in agreement then?;)

Mind, if it wasn't for fucking kids, you wouldn't have a job!

[Whowhere]

I'm not saying nuffink. But yes you're right. If it wasn't for the kids I'd be doing something else.

[panda eyes]

depends where you are.
In liverpool the freaky kids go mental,
even taxi drivers wont go out,
not work the hassle

[Monserrat]

My bedroom window has been egged twice. In April and in June, neither anywhere near Hallow's Eve! On both occasions, it happened around midnight so it was probably drunk people coming back from the pubs, stopping at my local 24-hour ASDA enroute.

[morrocan roll]

Originally posted by Monserrat
My bedroom window has been egged twice. In April and in June, neither anywhere near Hallow's Eve! On both occasions, it happened around midnight so it was probably drunk people coming back from the pubs, stopping at my local 24-hour ASDA enroute. drunk people buy eggs on the way home to chuck at houses!
the world is gone mad i tell ya.