Goodbye Golden Arches ......

[freethepeeps]

Hello golden question mark! (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,3604,1326000,00.html)

I saw Supersize me on the weekend, and its enough to put anyone off their fast food, but apparently that has nothing to do with the decision to drop the Golden Arches.

Neither, apparently does the 71% fall in profits last year.

It's almost as if consumer campaigns can have an impact........

[wheresmyplacebo]

it was kind of obvious before that you shouldnt eat only mcdonalds, there was noyhing actuaslly wrong with what food they sold before, just dont do it overboard

[freethepeeps]

Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
it was kind of obvious before that you shouldnt eat only mcdonalds, there was noyhing actuaslly wrong with what food they sold before, just dont do it overboard

MacDonalds did its best to entice people with an enormous advertising budget, and a deliberate policy of hooking kids at as young as possible.

The McLibel trial showed the lengths it was prepared to go to to try and stamp out any criticism of its products. At the end of the day, I think the trial did it an enormous amount of damage in the UK.

And what they sold was processed food with high levels of fat, salt and sugar ........ nutritionally there might well have been more goodness in the McBox........

[wheresmyplacebo]

Originally posted by freethepeeps
MacDonalds did its best to entice people with an enormous advertising budget, and a deliberate policy of hooking kids at as young as possible.

The McLibel trial showed the lengths it was prepared to go to to try and stamp out any criticism of its products. At the end of the day, I think the trial did it an enormous amount of damage in the UK.

And what they sold was processed food with high levels of fat, salt and sugar ........ nutritionally there might well have been more goodness in the McBox........

yeh it was never said "this is good for you" just looking at it made it clear it wasnt good for you, and there is such a thing as parents telling the little kid "you cant have mcdonalds" - its a treat food, and not a good one at that, but that aint no reason for them to be seen as evil

their pracitces of knocking down rainforest to build ranches is questionable but not their final selling tactics - bad parenting and pandering to hype is to blame

[Kermit]

Originally posted by freethepeeps
The McLibel trial showed the lengths it was prepared to go to to try and stamp out any criticism of its products. At the end of the day, I think the trial did it an enormous amount of damage in the UK.

Yeah, it wasn't like it hadn't been telling those two libellous twats to stop it for two years, or anything.

There is criticism, like in Supersize Me, and there is downright libel. The two defendants in the McLibel trial could not prove their claims, and they, quite rightly, had the fucking book thrown at them.

I laughed when they were bankrupted, because they got what was coming to them.

[Aladdin]

Perhaps McDonalds have decided to go honest on their customers, and the question mark reflects the uncertainty of what exactly their meat is made from...

[Disillusioned]

Anybody that had to hear about the McLibel case or see Supersize Me to work out that McDonald’s isn’t healthy has got to be pretty thick.

[budda]

When I was stuck in Honolulu for a week once a mate and I ate virtually only fast food.

I have never felt so ill in all my life, just one week and I was bloated, I didnt sleep, I felt sluggish, my digestion was fucked.....

[Blagsta]

Originally posted by Kermit
Yeah, it wasn't like it hadn't been telling those two libellous twats to stop it for two years, or anything.

There is criticism, like in Supersize Me, and there is downright libel. The two defendants in the McLibel trial could not prove their claims, and they, quite rightly, had the fucking book thrown at them.

I laughed when they were bankrupted, because they got what was coming to them.

Maybe you should actually find out what the results of the trial were?

[Captain Slog]

Apparently McDonalds has suffered a drop in profits of late (no doubt helped by "Supersize me."). Frankly I'd be quite happy to see them go under completely.

[budda]

They maybe on their way out, but it will be a long slow decline if they do.

[Teagan]

I had a MacD pamphlet dropped through my door last night with loads of money-off coupons attached. They were going on about their 'healthy' options menu and new 'freshly ground coffee' ... they are obviously alarmed at peoples' perception now of them producing just fatty junk food and want to try and come across all Starbucks-like.

[Aladdin]

Their recent TV ad campaign for their 'healthy' salad range, with 4 'cool' and 'fashionable' girls meeting there for lunch, was one of the most desperate and pathetic things ever.

[Kermit]

ON a random tangent with regards to Mc Donald's, it's interesting to note the lack of abuse for sandwich manufacturers- a High Street sandwich can have more calories in it than a Big Mac.

[Kentish]

Originally posted by Kermit
ON a random tangent with regards to Mc Donald's, it's interesting to note the lack of abuse for sandwich manufacturers- a High Street sandwich can have more calories in it than a Big Mac.
or Burger King for that matter...

[Aladdin]

However high street sandwich shops don't tend to be multi-national corporations specialising in infiltrating schools and providing 'educational books' for children that turn up to be nothing more than brainwashing programmes to get the kids hooked on McShite from an early age.

[Kermit]

Originally posted by Aladdin
However high street sandwich shops don't tend to be multi-national corporations specialising in infiltrating schools and providing 'educational books' for children that turn up to be nothing more than brainwashing programmes to get the kids hooked on McShite from an early age.

So you're saying Tesco and M&S are morally upstanding companies?:p

[budda]

But Tesco are well known for their lovely practice with food suppliers, as can be seen in the highly profitable milk and dairy sectors.

[Carriage Return]

Originally posted by Kentish
or Burger King for that matter... At least Burger King isn't complete shite... :p

[Aladdin]

Or tries to brainwash children with its 'educational' books.

Or irritates the whole nation with its piss-poor ads.

[DG]

Originally posted by Kermit
ON a random tangent with regards to Mc Donald's, it's interesting to note the lack of abuse for sandwich manufacturers- a High Street sandwich can have more calories in it than a Big Mac.


Calories ain't a bad thing, just too many of them overall lead to weight gain!!

[Ants]

In one of the primary schools here, there is an extension classroom that was paid for/sponsored by McDonalds. There is some Maccy D's advertising permanently up in (and outside) the room. Make of that what you will...

[eternalsunshine]

If anybody is interested, McDonald's Workers' Resistance (http://mwr.org.uk/home.htm) is full of relevant information from the workers' (obviously) perspective. It can also be quite humerous at times too. Enjoy :)

[Whowhere]

Originally posted by Aladdin
Perhaps McDonalds have decided to go honest on their customers, and the question mark reflects the uncertainty of what exactly their meat is made from...


It's made from 100% beef. Maybe not prime steak, but if McDonalds put a claim as bold as that and didn't keep to it trading standards would crucify them.

I'm all for McDonalds once in a while. Yes, it's nowhere near as good as home cooked food, but then I dont know ANYONE who eats it more than once a week anyway.
The guy in Supersize me ate more than most people do in a year. I'm sure if he had one or two meals a week it wouldn't make any difference to his health.
I wouldn't be surprised if me buying a kebab and chips from the chippy is more unhealthy, but then I do lots of exercise so I don't give a shit.

[Kermit]

If you crucify McDonald's for its business practices then you should criticise Tesco, ASDA, M&S [i]et al[]/i] too.

Tesco pay for computers in schools, and they don't even do this as charity unlike McDonald's children's charity. They do it as blackmail to increase custom.

One McDonald's every so often is not bad for you. Whether you like them or not is purely personal taste, but they are not bad for you.

If you eat one every day then you deserve what you get. It isn't McDonald's fault.

As I've said, a double cheeseburger I bought from McDonald's had fewer calories in it than a cheese and ham sandwich I bought the next day from M&S. I don't see M&S being slaughtered for its unhealthy sandwiches.

I hate the calorie nazis. They are morons.

[Blagsta]

Point is that McDonalds and the golden arches are a convenient symbol of everything that is wrong with global capitalism.
People like convenient symbols. They're...convenient.

[Kermit]

Originally posted by Blagsta
Point is that McDonalds and the golden arches are a convenient symbol of everything that is wrong with global capitalism.
People like convenient symbols. They're...convenient.

Yes. That's very true.

It's the same with Esso/Exxon really.

they deserve it, they just aren't alone.

[Aladdin]

Originally posted by Kermit
Yes. That's very true.

It's the same with Esso/Exxon really.

they deserve it, they just aren't alone. Actually Exxon is much much worse than most other major oil corporations.

You might be surprised to hear that most of the big players (Shell and BP amongst them if memory serves) support the Kyoto agreement. Exxon doesn't. Like the neo-cons in America, Exxon claims global warming doesn't exist. :rolleyes: :mad:

In addition to that they have been pushing very hard to be allowed to drill in the Artic, with potentially catastrophic consequences, for the sake of yet more fucking profit. Nothing is sacred in the eyes of those fucking cunts.

Not all companies are the same, even if their trade is. Exxon is far worse than any other oil corporation. Exxon is the personification of pure greed and, yes, fucking evil, and may everyone sitting in the boardroom of that shit corporation suffer slow horrible deaths.

http://www.stopesso.com/why.php


As for the supermarkets vs. McShite:

- Do the supermarkets make children memorise nursery songs altered to plug their products?

- Do they bombard children constantly with ads during children's TV hours and offer all kind of free toys (most children are actually lured to McShite by the perks, clowns and free toys rather than by the quality of the 'food' offered)?

- Do they offer a very limited range of 'food' (namely beef burgers, chicken burgers or chips) only? Last I looked supermarkets offer several thousand if not tens of thousands of different food products. Perhaps the ones around your area only sell sandwiches?

[Fiend_85]

Fact of the day good people BP doesn't stand for British Petroleum anymore, it's beyond petroleum, they're all for new fuels market.