David Beckham

[Bri-namite]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/3735276.stm

"I'm sure some people think that I have not got the brains to be that clever.

"But I do have the brains. I could feel the injury. So I fouled (Ben) Thatcher."

Aww, what a clever boy.

Shame he didn't have the brains to keep his cakehole shut, eh?

The guy is an absolute fool.

FIFA should suspend his suspension till he's fit, but then they'll be too busy designing pointless transfer windows and the like.

[Renzo]

It seems idiotic to me. Not that I'm bitter or anything....

[Eman Resu]

I hope he gets the book thrown at him big time. This sort of thing happens but the fact that he had to tell people fails to set an example to young players.

[BlackArab]

He should be stripped of the captaincy. Yes it may seem harmless or even cynically clever but what if someone follows his exmple and then injures the other player.

And then to go public with it, what a twat.

[Lickalotapuss]

Think he did the right thing personally. It seems like people are seeing it as if he deliberately hurt someone, which he did nothing of the sort. He deliberately got a yellow card, whoopie doo, it makes total sense to me why he did it and it was for the good of the ENGLAND team, sooo that probably explains why Bri-namite created this thread :p

[BlackArab]

Lick, don't you think it would have been a lot simpler just to take his shirt off while celebrating his goal? same result and no risk to an opposing player and fellow professional.

[Lickalotapuss]

Originally posted by BlackArab
Lick, don't you think it would have been a lot simpler just to take his shirt off while celebrating his goal? same result and no risk to an opposing player and fellow professional.
Obviously yes, but he wasn't injured when he scored. It wasn't a two-footed horror challenge that risked the career or even a slight injury to Thatcher. After the first challenge (which got him injured) I believe he had a bit of a barny with the ref, this was maybe his easy way of getting a yellow, that failed so he ran into him 5mins later to get the booking.

It really gets to me how people (mainly press) abuse him, he is a massive talent and when playing well is the best this country has to offer. He scored a magic goal and then he was getting abused for the yellow card, so he admits he meant to get it so his ban coincided with his injury (for the good of England, imo) and then he gets abused for that. No pleasing some people. People just need to lay off him and let him concentrate on what he does best - playing footie.

The thing is that this kind of twisting the rules of the game happens week in and out, mainly seen by foreigners falling over doing triple summersaults into a reverse pike when no-ones near them, even though the camera's can clearly see what they've done no investigation takes place. Now Beckham deliberately gets booked (not deliberately hurt anyone), he admits it (bit stupid) and now the FA, FIFA, Sven are all going to investigate it. Its total and utter bollocks imho.

Now Geoff Hurst has stuck his beak in saying he is bringing the english game in dis-repute, I think it shows professionalism on the part of Becks. Glad to hear that Thatcher or any of the Wales team/manager haven't complained and that the referee isn't changing his report. Think most modern day footballers know this is part and parcel of the game and just get on with it, like everyone else should.

[budda]

I just think the behaviour of players now is terrible, there are SO many fake's when it comes to tackling.

This is just another example of that kind of thing.

But then I think football is grossly dull most of the time anyway.

[Kermit]

I'm with lickalotapuss- what's the big deal?

He did what any professional does. He shouldn't have said it, buit what the fuck is with The Sun going "Becks Shames England!"?

Twatfaces. If every single journo at News International died I'd have a party in celebration.

The only thing he did wrong was tell everyone.

[Aladdin]

The S*n now takes every chance to attack Beckham since he had the 'temerity' of denying the affair reported by the rag and its Sunday sister paper.

Most of the blame must lie with his idiotic admission for no good reason whatsoever. Ironically he said it because he was trying to prove he's not a thicko and that provocking the yellow card was a clever move (which it was). Not very clever to tell it to the four winds though... :rolleyes: :lol:

The issue is not enough to merit losing the capitancy IMO.

[BlackArab]

Becks as a hero and captain of England is an example to young players from Rooney to the local under 5s. They might not be lucky enough to deliberately foul a player without physical injury.

It might be a smart move but potentially a dangerous one.

[spartaalbion]

Carlton Palmer is on record saying that 2 weeks before Christmas he would try and get suspended or feign injury so that he wouldn't have to play over the Christmas period.

[Lickalotapuss]

Originally posted by spartaalbion
Carlton Palmer is on record saying that 2 weeks before Christmas he would try and get suspended or feign injury so that he wouldn't have to play over the Christmas period.
Well I don't agree with that and think it is a total different situation, thats just Carlton Palmer being a lazy twat, the only reason is for his own personal gain, Beckhams was for the good of England knowing he will miss a match that he couldn't possibly play in anyway cos of injury.
Becks as a hero and captain of England is an example to young players from Rooney to the local under 5s. They might not be lucky enough to deliberately foul a player without physical injury.
No-one seems to complain about the constant diving rubbing off on under5's, much worse form of twisting the rules imo. Beckham was in a situation (with a yellow hanging over his head) that an under 5 to open age amateur footballer would never be in. Think in my football I need 5 or 6 yellow cards before a suspension.

If Beckham had got the yellow card deliberately JUST to miss the Azerbaijan game without him being injured then that is something I do not agree with. Getting your ban out of the way just cos its a "lesser" country in the next game is wrong but he just showed a lot of common sense in this situation and the only thing he did wrong was be honest about it in an interview. But also, I think he had to be honest about it because he was getting abused for getting the yellow so he tried sticking up for himself which ended up making it worse.

[Man Of Kent]

It's not often that I agree with the two ABUs, but they are right in this instance.

I applaud Beckham for getting the booking, but he's a moron for admitting it.

In light of the Iwan Roberts suspension and the Keane debacle it will be interesting to see what the FA do about it though. Both of those players have been suspended for admitting something along these lines... of course, Keane said that he intended an injury which is one difference...

[BlackArab]

Originally posted by Lickalotapuss


No-one seems to complain about the constant diving rubbing off on under5's, much worse form of twisting the rules imo. Beckham was in a situation (with a yellow hanging over his head) that an under 5 to open age amateur footballer would never be in. Think in my football I need 5 or 6 yellow cards before a suspension.



Diving? no risk to another player there. Seeing as you've only focussed on one end of the spectrum I mentioned, what would you think if Rooney, Wright-Phillips etc tried the same thing and cocked it up thus injuring another player?

At the end of the day, my concern is the method he chose as opposed to the sirt thing, time-wasting or any yellow card offence. I'd love to see the sanctimonious crap that would come out if a foreign player tried the same thing and injured one of our players.

[Lickalotapuss]

Don't know if you've ever played the wonderful game of football but I know from experience it is easy to take someone out without them getting injured. I get taken out regularly playing over the weekend and if I was in the Premier League with Premier refs then the oppostition player would get instant red cards from challenges I have received and vice-versa. Most injuries in my experience come from nothing. There is a massive difference from the way Beckham fell into thatcher and going in studs showing to someones ankle, it was a nothing challenge, it wasn't malicious, it wasn't dangerous, it didn't threaten to injure thatcher in the slightest. So from this I know diving doesn't risk injury to any player but it is a shitty form of cheating which gets people booked/sent off/banned which is surely worse than a little nudge in his back?? It is not only cheating the ref but it is making the innocent bystander look guilty of a reckless challenge (especially when they roll around on the floor for 5mins), it also wins people games by getting cheated penalties. No way in this world is what Beckham did worse than the cheating diving scum that cheat refs on a weekly basis, not just once in his whole career.

Right onto the Rooney question, IF Rooney went in on a player in a malicious way just to get a booking then obviously I dis-agree with that. I'd dis-agree with it in most situations but with the Beckham situation it was clever thinking imo.

[Makoto]

He would be ok if it wasn't for his media whore wife. he should get out now before he is really hated by everyone.

[Kermit]

It's stupidly easy to get a booking without injuring someone.

A simple tackle from behind at, like, 2mph would do.

[Braineater]

He fractures his rib in one tackle, then ploughs into Ben Thatcher side on to get booked potentially risking his life let alone the captaincy.

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"I'm sure some people think that I have not got the brains to be that clever."



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