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Tim Bacon
05-07-2004, 03:04 AM
I'd like to big up Tony Blair.

Hes made half a mistake in almost 2 terms in charge.

I'm sick of all this Iraq War nonsense, the fact is that he went to war based on the information that he had. The Tories would have done the same thing - fact.

Top up fees are a good idea.

Education has improved under him. Unemployment has improved and all that jazz.

I love him. If anyone can seriously elect Howard ahead of Blair then I might as well move to Iraq.

Blagsta
05-07-2004, 08:34 AM
*edited for abusive language*

ShyBoy
05-07-2004, 10:37 AM
I like Tony Blair too. But people need someone to blame, they need a scapegoat.

ladymuck
05-07-2004, 10:42 AM
I like Tony Blair too

What his namby-pamby accent, he smiles a lot and says sweet FA, he sends out different messages to different voting interests

Oh hahahaha

Renzo
05-07-2004, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by ladymuck
he sends out different messages to different voting interests

Oh hahahaha

and no other politition does that? I am not a fan of Blair myself, hence why I voted Liberal because I do not want to support him because he has gone totally against traditional Labour policies with Top up Fees and Foundation hospitals.

lukesh
05-07-2004, 12:17 PM
If people vote in next years elections based on the war it's pretty stupid as Iraq isn't top of the agenda in this country, probably near bottom. Schools, health, crime, asylum, transport are the key issues.

I admire Tony blair a lot over the war, I really do. How ever I don't like the way he just siged up to the European Constitution. he should quickly give us a referendum so this issue can be put aside. We should be more concerned with demoestic issues than that.

Labour are good at pouring money in to the public services and promsiing all sorts. They do spend the money but people still moan. Why?
It's because Labour don't know how to spend it.

I think the next election, the main topics people will be voting on are, Health, Education, Crime, Immigration/Asylum, Europe and Transport.

I think the Conservatives share my views on the things above but Iam not conviced over health.

Kermit
05-07-2004, 12:48 PM
I'd like to kill Anthony Blair, like the war criminal and fascist that he is.

Kermit
05-07-2004, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by Tim Bacon
Top up fees are a good idea.

:lol:

They are such a stupid idea even the Tories weren't going to implement them. Let's rewind to 1997. The Conservatives were contemplating either fees or loans, Bliar comes in and does both. Less Government cash spent on education, more Government cash spent on Blair.

Let's talk about Governmental corruption, in which Bliar has been personally implicated. Howard might be a bit odious, but at least he (and the Conservatives) do not bend Government policy to suit their paymasters. And at least they don't let non-nationals in illegally because of party funding issues. The Conservatives might not be ideal, but they fell on one bit of corruption, and that was a back-bencher. In New Labour the key personnel are all on the take, right up to the very top.

Iraq doesn't even make it into my top three reasons to hate Bliar, and wish him dead.

BeckyBoo
05-07-2004, 01:43 PM
I dont like Tony at all, i think he is very false and I just dont like him.

Thats all :)

Oh and i do wish he would smarten himself up, he can look quite untidy sometimes.

Man Of Kent
05-07-2004, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by Tim Bacon
Hes made half a mistake in almost 2 terms in charge.

What was that?

Top up fees are a good idea.

because...?

Education has improved under him. Unemployment has improved and all that jazz.

Based on...?

If anyone can seriously elect Howard ahead of Blair then I might as well move to Iraq.

Where I am sure you would be welcomed with open arms (and a sharpened sword ;)

Aladdin
06-07-2004, 12:39 PM
Look at how pathetic he can get:

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13151177,00.html

WHAT would it take the fucking arrogant man to admit FOR ONCE that he was wrong about something? :mad:

When he will stop insulting our intelligence?

And as for the Guantanamo situation you can really sense the poodle's discomfort at having to ask the US to stop torturing and illegally imprisoning British citizens. Not to mention his lack of guts to describe Guantanamo as what it is, instead of calling it "an anomaly".

I don't want the Tories to win any more than most people... but at this point the Child Raping and Killing Party would seem a more attractive opposition than that man. Please let's get rid of him before the next election... The Labour Party and the country deserve better than him.

lukesh
06-07-2004, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by Aladdin

I don't want the Tories to win any more than most people... but at this point the Child Raping and Killing Party would seem a more attractive opposition than that man. Please let's get rid of him before the next election... The Labour Party and the country deserve better than him. and what party is that you are talking about?

Aladdin
06-07-2004, 01:14 PM
It doesn't exist Luke. It was a figure of speech to say that anyone would be preferable to Tony Blair.

lukesh
06-07-2004, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by Aladdin
It doesn't exist Luke. It was a figure of speech to say that anyone would be preferable to Tony Blair. oh ok, sorry.

Aladdin
06-07-2004, 01:39 PM
I know the Tories are bad, but I wouldn't accuse them of eating babies quite yet. ;)

lukesh
06-07-2004, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Aladdin
I know the Tories are bad, but I wouldn't accuse them of eating babies quite yet. ;) Come on bad? What do you mean?

Mr. Howard was on "This Morning" today and he insisted he wants us to be able to walk to school, shops etc safely. You never hear Blair saying this.

Aladdin
06-07-2004, 02:20 PM
You never hear the Tories saying they want to destroy what's left of our public services either...

Or that Howard wants to suck your bloooooood...

The Matadore
06-07-2004, 04:35 PM
You never hear the Tories saying they want to destroy what's left of our public services either...

The Tories have said they will match Labours spending on the public services pound for pound, increasing it in some areas.

Aladdin
06-07-2004, 04:42 PM
What's the catch?

Kermit
06-07-2004, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Aladdin
What's the catch?

Who knows.

They all lie.

Blagsta
06-07-2004, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by Blagsta
*edited for abusive language*

I'm not allowed to express my opinion?

Renzo
06-07-2004, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Aladdin
You never hear the Tories saying they want to destroy what's left of our public services either...

Or that Howard wants to suck your bloooooood...

for some reason that last part made me laugh out loud :D

and yes, i wouldnt beleive the Conservatives on public spending even if i had an electric automatic beleiving machine

lukesh
06-07-2004, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by Renzokuken
for some reason that last part made me laugh out loud :D

and yes, i wouldnt beleive the Conservatives on public spending even if i had an electric automatic beleiving machine lolllll, but you believe what silly things Blair says?

Renzo
06-07-2004, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by lukesh
lolllll, but you believe what silly things Blair says?

No I do not, for the most part.

I have to say i would rather a Labour, or 'New Labour' :rolleyes: government running public services rather than having a Conservative government strangling them.

lukesh
06-07-2004, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by Renzokuken
No I do not, for the most part.

I have to say i would rather a Labour, or 'New Labour' :rolleyes: government running public services rather than having a Conservative government strangling them. I am not sure about the NHS but I would have the Conservatives combatting crime, Education and various others in my area.

Kermit
07-07-2004, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by Renzokuken
I have to say i would rather a Labour, or 'New Labour' :rolleyes: government running public services rather than having a Conservative government strangling them.

Tories bad Labour good!

:lol:

Labour run the public services for their thieving militant friends in the trade unions, the Conservatives run the puiblic services for their thieving big business friends. New Labour are even more pro-Big Business than the Tories.

Both ways to run the services are wrong- nobody ever considers the poor schmucks who have to actually USE them.

Man Of Kent
08-07-2004, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by The Matadore
The Tories have said they will match Labours spending on the public services pound for pound, increasing it in some areas.

Would you care to expand on that?

Yes, they have promised to match funding (initially) but when you read their policy they don't promise that this will be invested in public services directly but will be used to help the private sector.

So matching funding is laudable, until you realise how much will not be going to the actual services.