asylum seeker a baby snatcher

[lukesh]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3790973.stm

makes me sick! here is some proof of what i said before.

[Infinite]

Proof of what? That all asylum seekers are child snatchers?

They'll be stealing babies from their cribs soon.......

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Infinite
Proof of what? That all asylum seekers are child snatchers?

They'll be stealing babies from their cribs soon....... here we go again, makin stuff up. when did I say that?

stop making stuff up.

just giving evidense to a claim I said before.

[morrocan roll]

i'm going to have to start drinking milk and smoking nothing stronger than park drive.

[ShyBoy]

but you must admit that there are an equal amount of babysnatchers who are not asylum seekers. well actually, with the system of filtering asylum seekers (no matter how badly it works) then nationals must have a proportionally greater amount of criminals, peadophiles and child abducters! It just seems to make sense to me.

Unless there is a link between being an asylum seeker and being a criminal?

[Whowhere]

And?
Does this mean that my friend's husband is actually the Albanian Strangler who likes kiddy fiddling? No, it doesn't.
As far as i can remember this is the first time I've seen something about an asylum seeker being charged with this sort of offence.
Let me ask, where was Ian Huntley from? Does the fact he killed those girls mean he is actually from Iceland? Or is this an indication on the English, we rape and kill little girls whilst African asylum seekers hold their hands?:rolleyes:

[piccolo]

One asylum seeker. Not even one percent...

Edited to add, and I believe the guy. Benefit of the doubt, he says it's his culture and the article presents no evidence that he was doing anything other than taking the child's hand.

[ladymuck]

Whowhere you really are a plank, of course we have are own criminals but here we are with our tin-shit asylum system allowing misfits whose feet should hardly touch UK soil as they should be deported before they can even think of kiddy fiddling.

We don't have that asylum system so we will end up with aslum-crims, HIV-assassins and sundry losers who are not people who any country other than UK would accept

[Blagsta]

I'm confused by this thread.
So an asylum seeker snatched a baby. And? What does that mean? Apart from some people are fucked up.
What the hell has that got to do with asylum seekers in general? :confused:

Please explain.

[morrocan roll]

Originally posted by Blagsta

Please explain. your joking or you still believe in the tooth fairy if your expecting any kind of answer ...

[Blagsta]

Well, yeah, I don't really expect any sort of sensible answer.

[BumbleBee]

Firstly, what exactly is your point lukesh? Does this mean all asylum seekers are child abductors? Because of course, we 'natives' are highly incapable of committing serious crime. :rolleyes: (And before you say it, I am well aware you didn't say that but it was implicit in your posting of this thread!)

Secondly, I would be interested to know what other evidence convicted this man.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by BumbleBee
Firstly, what exactly is your point lukesh? Does this mean all asylum seekers are child abductors? Because of course, we 'natives' are highly incapable of committing serious crime. :rolleyes: (And before you say it, I am well aware you didn't say that but it was implicit in your posting of this thread!)

Secondly, I would be interested to know what other evidence convicted this man. your making stuff up yet again.

when did I say ALL asylum seekers were abductors? When?

natives are worser than asylum seekers of course as we are dominate in this country. How ever asylum seekers suspsoed to be running away from death in their own country, not messsing with children. for gods sake we have our own probelsmw ith out them. you lot talk as because it's 1 asylum seeker I have shwon it's ok, well it isn't.

and stop trying maken out he is Mr. inncent, it was baout time the BBc published on the internet what it shows on it's television channel about ayslum seekers. you'd be amazed some of you because when i tell you you laugh at me so if your trusted BBc publishes it you must believe it.

the fact of this post was to poroove one of my points before, thats if you saw them?

[ShyBoy]

Originally posted by lukesh
your making stuff up yet again.

when did I say ALL asylum seekers were abductors? When?

natives are worser than asylum seekers of course as we are dominate in this country. How ever asylum seekers suspsoed to be running away from death in their own country, not messsing with children. for gods sake we have our own probelsmw ith out them. you lot talk as because it's 1 asylum seeker I have shwon it's ok, well it isn't.

and stop trying maken out he is Mr. inncent, it was baout time the BBc published on the internet what it shows on it's television channel about ayslum seekers. you'd be amazed some of you because when i tell you you laugh at me so if your trusted BBc publishes it you must believe it.

the fact of this post was to poroove one of my points before, thats if you saw them?

but criminals, kiddy fiddlers etc are unfortunately universal! I think I know what you're getting at - but the system can't filter out every bad one. I'm sure if you looked at the rate of offenders to the % of population, asylum seekers would be below the national average. But I don't think when the police arrest or charge people they take into account whether they're asylum seekers or not...

But wouldn't you rather let a few bad ones in and save a whole lot of good ones, than bar everyone because of the possibility that they may turn out to be criminals?

[lukesh]

Originally posted by TheShyBoyInTheCorner
but criminals, kiddy fiddlers etc are unfortunately universal! I think I know what you're getting at - but the system can't filter out every bad one. I'm sure if you looked at the rate of offenders to the % of population, asylum seekers would be below the national average. But I don't think when the police arrest or charge people they take into account whether they're asylum seekers or not...

But wouldn't you rather let a few bad ones in and save a whole lot of good ones, than bar everyone because of the possibility that they may turn out to be criminals? asylum camps would be magic then wouldn't they. no asylum seekers can be acused then.

[Blagsta]

Luke why don't you just fuck off.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Blagsta
Luke why don't you just fuck off. Moderator, please sort this clown out!

[Blagsta]

I'll stop giving you grief when you stop shit stirring and trying to provoke hatred against asylum seekers. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Blagsta
I'll stop giving you grief when you stop shit stirring and trying to provoke hatred against asylum seekers. :mad: :mad: :mad: I ahvr produced a fact here. I'm not stirring your stirring trouble right now.

just get real will you.

[Blagsta]

Yes, you're stirring shit and you fucking know it. :mad: :mad:

[BumbleBee]

Originally posted by lukesh
your making stuff up yet again.

when did I say ALL asylum seekers were abductors? When?


Originally posted by BumbleBee
(And before you say it, I am well aware you didn't say that but it was implicit in your posting of this thread!)


So you wasted your precious time there, and also you have proved that you don't even read what people have written correctly.

Originally posted by lukesh
worser :lol:

[CheeseOnToast]

Heh..

Maybe you should read yesterdays Daily (welsh) Mirror.

If I can find a copy of the paper or link to the article or anyone else has got yesterdays paper in front of them, get the details !!

Basically a town somewhere in England has been totally revamped, houses which were boarded up are now comfortable nice homes, crime is down in the area, and it's generally cleaner.

When has this happened? Since over the last few years a large number of asylum seekers/immigrants have moved into the area..

Good for them I say, if some of the scum bags in this country aren't going to look after it !

[SuzyCreamcheese]

Originally posted by lukesh
asylum camps would be magic then wouldn't they. no asylum seekers can be acused then.
no, its immoral to imprison people who have done nothing wrong. If this individual did try and abduct a child then that is wrong and he should be punished obviously, but it is illogical to then state its a problem with asylum seekers and to lock all asylum seekers up `just in case`. People are innocent till proven guilty. Theres no justice in locking innocent people up.
Lukesh I feel you are trying to incite racial hatred with this thread, and that is against the rules of the site.

[BumbleBee]

Originally posted by rainbow brite
Lukesh I feel you are trying to incite racial hatred with this thread, and that is against the rules of the site.

I agree, and I also think it has worked with some people (Lady Muck for example)

[lukesh]

Originally posted by rainbow brite
no, its immoral to imprison people who have done nothing wrong. If this individual did try and abduct a child then that is wrong and he should be punished obviously, but it is illogical to then state its a problem with asylum seekers and to lock all asylum seekers up `just in case`. People are innocent till proven guilty. Theres no justice in locking innocent people up.
Lukesh I feel you are trying to incite racial hatred with this thread, and that is against the rules of the site. prison? lol

well if your going call it that then we have no chance of sorting the rise in BNP support and the whole immigration/Asylum system.

racial hatred? what? God give me strengh.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by BumbleBee
I agree, and I also think it has worked with some people (Lady Muck for example) why, please explian.

[SuzyCreamcheese]

Originally posted by lukesh
prison? lol

well if your going call it that then we have no chance of sorting the rise in BNP support and the whole immigration/Asylum system.

racial hatred? what? God give me strengh.
well what else would you call somewhere where you were locked up and werent allowed to leave?
explain to me why me calling it prison is sorting or not sorting the rise in BNP support and/or the immigration asylum system.

Youd be a good politician, youve got the whole `answering a question by making a statement that has got nothing to do with the original topic` completely down to a tee.

I still stand by my opinion that you are inciting racial hatred. you need to be careful about that.

[katchika]

What rise in BNP support, they only gained one seat in the election, and lost several. Hardly a significant gain. Most people are sensible enough to vote for proper parties with workable policies.

It's bad when an asylum seeker commits a crime because it reflects badly on the whole group. The same way as people stereotype young people.

There are big cultural differences with how people treat children in other countries. In many it is quite normal to talk to other peoples children or even pick them up/play with them when out in shops/the park/whatever. Behaviour which can be very easily misinterpreted here what with the exaggerated fear about peodophiles.

[Infinite]

Originally posted by lukesh
asylum camps would be magic then wouldn't they. no asylum seekers can be acused then.

You're not serious!?! Please tell me you don't believe this.

[marv]

Well basically Lukesh you argue that aslyum seekers should be detained in camps and this is due to the small chance that person might be a child abductor

What is your problem with aslyum seekers if you look at the top ten countries were we get them from they all are either in a civil war or have records of human rights abuses.

Read this lukesh on aslyum and see that we get less per head then other countries

http://www.unhcr.org.uk/info/briefings/statistics/

[lukesh]

Originally posted by rainbow brite
well what else would you call somewhere where you were locked up and werent allowed to leave?
explain to me why me calling it prison is sorting or not sorting the rise in BNP support and/or the immigration asylum system.

Youd be a good politician, youve got the whole `answering a question by making a statement that has got nothing to do with the original topic` completely down to a tee.

I still stand by my opinion that you are inciting racial hatred. you need to be careful about that. ok, if thats whta you wan tto call it fair enough.

today, the process of asylum seekers, many are put into council houses, they have televisions etc, and a lot of stories ocme about that they are getting more than other people living there. also, stories come around aabout mobile phones, cars which i know witnessed.

what can we do about the whole asylum system? it's in utter chaos at the moment.

Asylum camps obviously. the asylum seekers would be housed in these camps. which would contain rooms for each familes where theyhave beds, Tv's, books, the usual stuff, while their claim is being proceeded.

how would this stop racial hatred and growing BNP support? easy.

today asians/blacks etc are all targeted automatic asylum seekers when most are not. this is not fair. also genuine asylum seekers are being targeted. this is not fair.

asylum camps would mean BNP for a start have no claim on asylum seekers getting blah blah.

this is just a insight to what I believe. Understand. I'm not trying to cause racial hatred at all.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by PussyKatty
What rise in BNP support, they only gained one seat in the election, and lost several. Hardly a significant gain. Most people are sensible enough to vote for proper parties with workable policies.

It's bad when an asylum seeker commits a crime because it reflects badly on the whole group. The same way as people stereotype young people.

There are big cultural differences with how people treat children in other countries. In many it is quite normal to talk to other peoples children or even pick them up/play with them when out in shops/the park/whatever. Behaviour which can be very easily misinterpreted here what with the exaggerated fear about peodophiles. BNp have only won 2 council seats in Stoke. Sounds small doesn't it but how ever, every seat they contest in, they are either coming 2nd or 3rd so this makes the BNP support higher. for stoke 30% and they only have 2 council seats out of around 40.

[katchika]

What about refugees, the BNP and racist people would just compain about them then.

For the millionoth time, asylum seekers don't get more than British people.

"stories going round" like the one about the Somalians who ate a swan? :lol:

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Infinite
You're not serious!?! Please tell me you don't believe this. I do, it's been rpooved to work in Denmark, Netherlands and Australia.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by PussyKatty
What about refugees, the BNP and racist people would just compain about them then.

For the millionoth time, asylum seekers don't get more than British people.

"stories going round" like the one about the Somalians who ate a swan? :lol: lest lsiten to your way of dealing with the problem?

[Infinite]

Originally posted by lukesh
I do, it's been rpooved to work in Denmark, Netherlands and Australia.

http://www.hrw.org/press/2002/12/australia1210.htm

[katchika]

Originally posted by lukesh
BNp have only won 2 council seats in Stoke. Sounds small doesn't it but how ever, every seat they contest in, they are either coming 2nd or 3rd so this makes the BNP support higher. for stoke 30% and they only have 2 council seats out of around 40.

from the BBC site, it says the BNP haven't gained seats in stoke, they have the same 2 they had before. 2 out of 40 is nothing worth getting worried about.

[katchika]

Originally posted by lukesh
lest lsiten to your way of dealing with the problem?

what does that mean?

[lukesh]

Originally posted by marv
Well basically Lukesh you argue that aslyum seekers should be detained in camps and this is due to the small chance that person might be a child abductor

What is your problem with aslyum seekers if you look at the top ten countries were we get them from they all are either in a civil war or have records of human rights abuses.

Read this lukesh on aslyum and see that we get less per head then other countries

http://www.unhcr.org.uk/info/briefings/statistics/ it;s not because of that reason at all. it's to stop the BNP having a leg to stand on for one. also so stop asians/blacks being targetted at asylum seekers. various things.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by PussyKatty
what does that mean? opps my wonderful typing again.

lets hear your story on the asylum system... what is your view on it? what do you think is a better way?

[lukesh]

Originally posted by PussyKatty
from the BBC site, it says the BNP haven't gained seats in stoke, they have the same 2 they had before. 2 out of 40 is nothing worth getting worried about. thats what i meant. how ever 30% BNP vote is.

[katchika]

Originally posted by lukesh
opps my wonderful typing again.

lets hear your story on the asylum system... what is your view on it? what do you think is a better way?

Locking up innocent people, especially families, is not the way to solve a problem in a democratic country in the 21st century.

I think the European government should standardise policies across the EU so asylum seekers are more evenly shared out.

And more staff to clear the backlog of claims.

[Infinite]

Originally posted by lukesh
I do, it's been rpooved to work in Denmark, Netherlands and Australia.

Read the second article down. http://members.optusnet.com.au/lynnemurphy/jack18december2003

[lukesh]

Originally posted by PussyKatty
Locking up innocent people, especially families, is not the way to solve a problem in a democratic country in the 21st century.

I think the European government should standardise policies across the EU so asylum seekers are more evenly shared out.

And more staff to clear the backlog of claims. not locking them up in prisons you know. they would have an outside place et. they won't be in there long anyway because asylum applications would be processed in 1 month max not in 10 years max.

also, wouldn't genuine asylum seekers accept anything as long as it means they get away from their country which they are fleeing from.

[Infinite]

I hear what you're saying Lukesh but put yourself in their shoes. If they're fleeing from a war or opressive government, they will be terrified and might have serious psychological problems. Imagine getting to what you think is safety to be told that you're going to be detained in what would amount to a prison camp for a month until you're fate was decided. (I know you didn't say prison but it would be needed to make this work.)

One of my lecturers spent some time in a country underneath an opressive dictatorship. One of his friends was able to flee the country a couple of years later. Within a week of arriving in Britain the man had a nervous breakdown. It was caused by watching the an interview on the news which bashed the government. This man had spent so long under a harsh dictatorship with the constant threat of execution or imprisonment for expressing a negative opinion about the gov'ment, that he just couldn't cope. You've got to start seeing asylum seekers as people with real problems who need our help and not as some terrible social ill that is going to destroy our country.

[/bleeding heart liberal]

Edited to correct spelling

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Infinite
I hear what you're saying Lukesh but put yourself in their shoes. If they're fleeing from a war or opressive government, they will be terrified and might have serious phycological problems. Imagine getting to what you think is safety to be told that you're going to be detained in what would amount to a prison camp for a month until you're fate was decided. (I know you didn't say prison but it would be needed to make this work.)

One of my lecturers spent some time in a country underneath an opressive dictatorship. One of his friends was able to flee the country a couple of years later. Within a week of arriving in Britain the man had a nervous breakdown. It was caused by watching the an interview on the news which bashed the government. This man had spent so long under a harsh dictatorship with the constant threat of execution or imprisonment for expressing a negative opinion about the gov'ment, that he just couldn't cope. You've got to start seeing asylum seekers as people with real problems who need our help and not as some terrible social ill that is going to destroy our country.

[/bleeding heart liberal] let me say again, the camps are no were near like prison.

I persoanlly believe that camps would be better for them, than getting attacked on the streets.

i understand asylum seekers are real people, asylum camps are not prisons, they are places especially build for them to keep them safe and sound. it's not like a prison at all. they will love it. well anywhere is better thn under a dictator i would have imagined.

[CheeseOnToast]

But why should they not be allowed on the streets?

Segregating people in anyway isn't right, or a good sign of our own culture..

These people should be able to walk where they, and do what they want so long as they abide by British Law whilst here.

If they do commit crimes, they should be treated equally still.

I hope Britain never goes down the pan, and if we need to seek refuge and we go to some of these countries, they treat us like shit and we live in camps so we don't get beaten up !!

And who will pay for these nice big camps, my tax money ??!

[*DEVIL*]

What i find odd is how the mother was in Argos, and the child outside? Well that is how i read it...why on earth was the child alone? and how did the mother see this?

I do not think that an incident by one man, who just happened to be an asylum seeker should be seen as a 'normal occurance'
Yes it happened and yes it was wrong and yes it could have been prevented (by the mother being with the child!)

[lukesh]

Originally posted by CheeseOnToast
But why should they not be allowed on the streets?

Segregating people in anyway isn't right, or a good sign of our own culture..

These people should be able to walk where they, and do what they want so long as they abide by British Law whilst here.

If they do commit crimes, they should be treated equally still.

I hope Britain never goes down the pan, and if we need to seek refuge and we go to some of these countries, they treat us like shit and we live in camps so we don't get beaten up !!

And who will pay for these nice big camps, my tax money ??! your moaning about the campos but your willing them to to have council housesd which are just or more expensive?

camps will ensure the bogu and genuine are rooted out.

[marv]

Lukesh how can putting asluym seekers into a camp makes us able to sort out who are bogus and who are not?

Also you say it wont be imprisioning them but what would stop them from absconding if they didnt want to remain?

Have been looking on the net to found figures on asluym.

From the BBC shows the applicants by nation into the UK 2002

APPLICANTS BY NATION: TOP TEN
Iraq: 14,940
Zimbabwe: 7,695
Afghanistan: 7,380
Somalia: 6,680
China: 3,735
Sri Lanka: 3,180
Turkey: 2,890
Iran: 2,685
Pakistan: 2,440
DR Congo: 2,315
Source: Home Office

It shows that the top countries are either states which are war torn or have a history of human rights abuses.

Also here is an article which talks about immigration it is from the Guardian so Lukesh will instantly poo poo it cause it's a lefty liberal paper :p

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/focus/story/0,6903,856032,00.html

[morrocan roll]

Originally posted by lukesh

asylum camps are not prisons, they are places especially build for them to keep them safe and sound. it's not like a prison at all. they will love it. you ever thought of doing stand up or was that a cut and paste from something someone said in 1930's germany?
if it's not a prison i pressume they can come and go as they please from the camp ...
when my mate emigrated to new zealand ...economic migrant at that ...they didn't take him camping on arrival.

[lukesh]

allright then I've had enough iam wrong, iam racist, i love the BNP. GO BNP! I want them to win all the setas, i want the Uk to be a 100% white nation, i hate muslims can't stand them, i hate gays, i am evil to asylum seekers becuse i want to lock them in up prisosn with only a television. i give no one human rgihts, i hate the EU, i hate europe, i love bush, love america, want the uk to turn as americas 51st state. and the rest of it.

sigh

[Infinite]

Originally posted by lukesh
allright then I've had enough iam wrong, iam racist, i love the BNP. GO BNP! I want them to win all the setas, i want the Uk to be a 100% white nation, i hate muslims can't stand them, i hate gays, i am evil to asylum seekers becuse i want to lock them in up prisosn with only a television. i give no one human rgihts, i hate the EU, i hate europe, i love bush, love america, want the uk to turn as americas 51st state. and the rest of it.

sigh

Don't be a fanny. All we want you to do is to give reasonable arguments that can be backed up. Don't be so over dramatic.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Infinite
Don't be a fanny. All we want you to do is to give reasonable arguments that can be backed up. Don't be so over dramatic. please tell me how Can I back up my opinion?

[Infinite]

Originally posted by lukesh
please tell me how Can I back up my opinion?

Google. It's how I get most of my facts. The best way would be to find facts and THEN present your argument. Don't give up :thumb:

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Infinite
Google. It's how I get most of my facts. The best way would be to find facts and THEN present your argument. Don't give up :thumb: I though facts are real figures and opinions are just ideas and thoughts?


I do give up, sick and tired of being called racist and in this case, causing racial hatred. if I'm that bad then why not get rid of me?

[Infinite]

Originally posted by lukesh
I though facts are real figures and opinions are just ideas and thoughts?


I do give up, sick and tired of being called racist and in this case, causing racial hatred. if I'm that bad then why not get rid of me?

You're arguments and opinions should be based on facts. If not, what are you basing them on?

You were accused of causing racial hatred because you started this thread purely to draw attention to an asylum seeker trying to snatch a child. Would you have started this thread if the guy wasn't an asylum seeker?

If you start backing up your opinions and arguments you'll be fine. And if you can't back them up then maybe that should tell you something.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Infinite
You're arguments and opinions should be based on facts. If not, what are you basing them on?
yeah but opinions don't require a fact, it's an opinion, an idea or thought.

Originally posted by Infinite

You were accused of causing racial hatred because you started this thread purely to draw attention to an asylum seeker trying to snatch a child. Would you have started this thread if the guy wasn't an asylum seeker?
Yep of course I would. I'm not racist. how many times? Might as well call my self racist, i won't have to keep repeating my self because it doesn't go in.

[BeckyBoo]

Originally posted by lukesh


if I'm that bad then why not get rid of me?

Cos we aint mods :p

Hey, your entitled to opinion, we just have to change it. Keep hanging in there and dont lose your rag just tell people what you think :D

[BeckyBoo]

Originally posted by Infinite

You were accused of causing racial hatred because you started this thread purely to draw attention to an asylum seeker trying to snatch a child. Would you have started this thread if the guy wasn't an asylum seeker?


how do you know it was purely to draw attention to an assylum seeker ?
give the lad a break, he saw a story and brought it here.......no problem ?

[morrocan roll]

Originally posted by lukesh
yeah but opinions don't require a fact, it's an opinion, an idea or thought.

wisdom knowledge and experience ...they grow out of those things.
if you think black is white and everyone keeps telling you your wrong then surely these ideas and opinions are based on nothing at atll ...
at some point you have to back up an opion based on reality.
if the reality is different from your opinion ...
wake up ...you have a personality to grow!

[morrocan roll]

Originally posted by Aspartame
.
Imagine how every other inhabitant of Stoke would feel if you were used as the benchmark... a fence would be errected around stoke ...it would become camp stoke.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by morrocan roll
wisdom knowledge and experience ...they grow out of those things.
if you think black is white and everyone keeps telling you your wrong then surely these ideas and opinions are based on nothing at atll ...
at some point you have to back up an opion based on reality.
if the reality is different from your opinion ...
wake up ...you have a personality to grow! everyone would ell me I'm wrong on here anyway. because it's not that they believe in. I'm a right wing person, your not going get me to say left wing stuff when I don't believe in them at all.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Aspartame
So someone seeking asylum nicked a kid. Poor kid.

Sure it sucks that a kid was abducted, but it really makes no difference who it was abducted by.

Asylum seekers are human...within the human race you get bastards and nice people, stupid people and intelligent people.
Imagine how every other inhabitant of Stoke would feel if you were used as the benchmark... I give up with you, just keep making stuff up and brain washing your self. I've had it here!

[Blagsta]

Originally posted by lukesh
today, the process of asylum seekers, many are put into council houses

Asylum seekers are not housed by the council. They are housed by NASS in private accomodation.

[SuzyCreamcheese]

Originally posted by lukesh
yeah but opinions don't require a fact, it's an opinion, an idea or thought.

Yep of course I would. I'm not racist. how many times? Might as well call my self racist, i won't have to keep repeating my self because it doesn't go in.
Yeah, the BNP pamphlet I got through my door started off by saying they werent racist too.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then its a duck.
You make racist comments and statements then you will be branded racist, even if you follow it up with saying `im not racist`. I think you need to really research stuff and be a bit more open minded. We`re not all trying to pull the wool over your eyes here you know.

[morrocan roll]

Originally posted by rainbow brite
We`re not all trying to pull the wool over your eyes here you know. oops

[SuzyCreamcheese]

Originally posted by lukesh
asylum camps would be magic then wouldn't they. no asylum seekers can be acused then.
just wanted to put this link in
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3809317.stm
for whoever thinks theyre not prisons.