The Day After Tomorrow [Archive]

Rocks

13-05-2004, 12:52 PM

http://www.thedayaftertomorrow.com/trailer2/index.html

I'm really looking forward to this film - I havent' been to the cinema since Bruce Almighty came out, but I'll have to pop in to see this one! I'm kinda biased cos the switching off of the Gulf Stream is one of my pet interests... though I don't think anything like this will happen... but still looks like a smashing movie!

Tim the Enchanter

13-05-2004, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by Bopperz
It looks amzing, but i've heard the Science part is a bit bollox...... :confused:

Bopz

There was a feature on this film on Channel4 news yesterday. They had Biritish experts on saying it was actually pretty scientifically accurate on everything but the time scale because such a climate change would take at least decades, if not centuries.

Songbird

13-05-2004, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by Rocks
http://www.thedayaftertomorrow.com/trailer2/index.html

Thanks for the link, that trailer is awsome. It's so much better than the other one where it's about the characters...which doesn't really say much for emotional depth of the film.

paperdoll

13-05-2004, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by Songbird
Anyone else looking forward to this film? After seeing the trailers for this I can't wait! I'm so excited I might vomit :D

think i might join you in the whole vomit/excitement thing there. just watched the trailer, it looks fucking awesome, it was giving me goosebumps!!

Songbird

13-05-2004, 10:10 PM

oooh yes, same here! It's great when watching something will give you goosebumps and tingle down your spine. I know it won't live up to my expectations but I'll still be there for the first showing :D

Renzo

13-05-2004, 10:24 PM

It seems relevent to my A Level geography course, it may be useful to see to revise :p

Rocks

13-05-2004, 10:47 PM

I think the filmmakers are playing on the idea that climate change can actually cause our climate, and that of North america's, to get a lot colder, especially in the winter.

Britain is on the same latitude as Labrador - a region known for its coldness - yet has a rather mild climate in comparision. This is because the Gulf Stream brings up warm tropical water past us, and north America, to warm our climate. However, its part of a 'conveyor belt', so the water has to go back down to the tropics for the process to continue. The stream turns in Iceland's area, where increased salinity means it sinks and heads back to the tropics. However, melting of Greenland's glaciers and increased river run-off into the north sea from Siberia means that the sea water is being diluted, so this stops the conveyor and consequently halts the gulf stream. If this happened, climatic effects could be felt within four-five years.

The worrying thing is that the salinity is indeed decreasing, so this process has started, and its pretty much certain that the gulf stream will stop at some point. Some scientists say that with the current rates of freshwater discharge, that could happen within the next 15 years, meaning the climatic impacts will be felt by 2020. Whilst the summers will be about the same, our winters will be like those of Moscow. And we saw in 2003 how two inches of snow halted the UK - imagine what a few metres would do. the socio-economic consequences are unimaginable.

If you want more info, go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2003/bigchill.shtml

Man I'd love to study this in-depth at uni, but sadly i'm a human geographer :(

edn1

13-05-2004, 11:19 PM

Im gunna go see it along with kill bill 2 and another film also.

I heard a radio review for it yesterday on my way to the incubus concert and they sorta slated it but i want to see it :D

The Doc

16-05-2004, 12:34 PM

:o

Troy and The Day After Tomorrow in the same month, but at the same time as exams. These bastards do it on purpose, I swear.

collegevamp

20-05-2004, 11:54 AM

i get total film every month and it said that jake gyllihaal (can't spell it) his character was originally a 11yr old boy but they wanted to a love interest andso they up his age and also it worked better cos he could stuff that an 11 yr old boy couldn't like save lifes or some shit like that and it has dennis Quaid in it as jake's father who predicts the climate change and he has to try to get to new york to find jake and see what has happened. it look s great fab brill i can't wait to see it but my cinema is showing troy they harr potter then i hope fingers cross the day atfer tomorrow if not i will have to wait for it to come out on dvd

Mr_Wobble

20-05-2004, 10:31 PM

It looks like a no brainer popcorn muncher of a film. Just switch off, kick back, munch your popcorn, and just enjoy the special effects. There may be some sort of a cheesy, hammed up, cliched, typically crappy Hollywood sentimental crap, thing going on, and at the end you won't give a damn about the characters.
I'd prefer to save my pennies for a film like Troy. But I still may go to see it on a cheap day/morning. I just know (like Van Helsing I saw last night) that I'd resent paying full price to see an unchallenging and uninspiring film like The Day After Tomorrow is going to be.

Lolzabeth

21-05-2004, 04:03 PM

I saw the trailers the same week I had 2 dreams about the end of the world so it freaked me out!
Deff going to see it though!
Comes out the day before my lil bro's 18th so I should still have pennies to go :D

Songbird

21-05-2004, 09:54 PM

lol, the films been fucking with my dreams too. I dreamt last night a huge tidal wave was coming towards my house and so I rushed around closing all the windows so it didn't get into my house. The thought didn't occur to me that it would probably smash the windows and probably the rest of the house on impact but never mind :D

funkyone

21-05-2004, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by Tim the Enchanter
There was a feature on this film on Channel4 news yesterday. They had Biritish experts on saying it was actually pretty scientifically accurate on everything but the time scale because such a climate change would take at least decades, if not centuries.

Hi - I don't want to sound boring, but someone mentioned that they wouldlove to study this at uni - well I did, sorta, for my post-graduate (glaciology and global environmental change).

The theory is fine to a certain extent, but the timescale is all to pot - so don't worry - it will not happen tomorrow night - in fact it will not happen whilst your kids are alive!

I am not going to go into this here - as it is proably not the place - but if anyone is genuinly intrested, then shout.

Ohhh and physical geography is SOOoooo much better than human! (he he he)

The film is meant to be great - and the special effects fab.

Silverberg

22-05-2004, 06:46 AM

It looks somewhat like a new Ice age type thing. Scientists have theorised that our planet is usually completed Iced over and we only have periods of about 15,000 years when we have a climate like we do now. The last Ice age was roughly 17,000 years ago, we're overdue for one now...
Film looks good, I'll have to get to see it sometime.

funkyone

22-05-2004, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by Silverberg
It looks somewhat like a new Ice age type thing. Scientists have theorised that our planet is usually completed Iced over and we only have periods of about 15,000 years when we have a climate like we do now. The last Ice age was roughly 17,000 years ago, we're overdue for one now...
Film looks good, I'll have to get to see it sometime.

Yeah but it is sensationalist, we are technically"over due" but in the grad scheme of things, and geologically time wise - its not as if it can happen over night, so the film is too far fetched.

It is possible that in the future, the world will experiance another, mini- or full ice age. However, the general decline into the environment will take thousands of years - and so, you would hope, socio-economically we would have time to adapt with it.

When looking at global envirnonmental change, it is really easy to look at one or two varibles, and say, sea level with rise by 5 meters flooding europe, or we have caused the delpleation of the ozone solely through the industrial revelution, or we are over due for an ice age. HOWEVER, the world works much slower than this, and all these events are part of much more complicated, complex systems.

The only way we are really ever going to experiance, suddern, massive climate change would be through a sole event. For instance the mertorite which hit off south america at about the time the dinosaus were made extint. This event would have caused sudden chnage is global climate - but apart from that its very difficiult to make, and matain suddern changes.

Hope this long and boring rant puts a stop to any nightmeres of walking up and finding it rather snowy outside!

*Lisa*

23-05-2004, 01:07 AM

Seeing it on friday. :thumb:

Aladdin

23-05-2004, 01:52 AM

Well sometimes it takes a movie for a message to get across people so I salute the film. Perhaps the penny will drop and some people (especially those who actually deny global warming actually exists and who like to drive big, gas-guzzling SUVs) will start to change a few habits.

As for the film itself, the effects look awesome but I fear it is going to include some eye-watering speech and descend into utter cheesiness. Remember this film is by the director of Independent Day- arguably the cheesiest movie ever made, especially with that stomach-turning little speech by the US President before the final battle.

Shameless

23-05-2004, 12:40 PM

Yeah, looks pretty class.

Might have to nab it off www.suprnova.org later. :D

Mr_Wobble

23-05-2004, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by *Lisa*
Seeing it on friday. :thumb: Be prepared to be dissapointed. :(

Shameless

23-05-2004, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by Mr_Wobble
Be prepared to be dissapointed. :(

That bad? :(

Mr_Wobble

23-05-2004, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by Shameless
That bad? :( Well, haven't seen it, but judging by the trailers it's just going to be an OTT special effects film with loads of boring old cliched events and dialog. A part of the film is where a geologist (surprise surprise) is trying to warn the world about potential disaster (no shit) and has to dash across the country to save his son (oh, the sentimental saving someone you love angle, again).
It's just another crappy, overly sentimental, cliche ridden, disaster movie. I'd prefer to watch the 1970's Earthquake film, at least I can have a laugh at Charlton Heston, cheesy dialog, dodgy 70's fashion, and piss poor special effects. :D

I mean, come on, it's by the same director as Independance Day, an all American slushy cheesefest of a movie. *yawns*

Songbird

23-05-2004, 07:33 PM

mm, I totally agree. I'm so excited about this film but I know that aside from the sfx it's going to be a terrible script and be rather cringe worthy at times. But having said that, most people hated Deep Impact and I adore that film :D

Mr_Wobble

24-05-2004, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by Songbird
most people hated Deep Impact and I adore that film :D I wouldn't say I hated it. It was just very average, and non-stimulating. It should've been called Deep Sleep.

*Lisa*

29-05-2004, 04:59 PM

Saw it last night. Ace film and the main young lad is so sexii. :(

Mist

29-05-2004, 07:44 PM

I saw this film today and thought it was quite good. It was very good visual stuff. Not much of a story and the rather obvious moralistic tone, but that was expected. Entertaining to watch like.

Indrid Cold

29-05-2004, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by *Lisa*
Saw it last night. Ace film and the main young lad is so sexii. :(
Do you mean Jake Gyllenhaal? (I haven't seen the movie yet). He's the main protagonist of Donnie Darko, my favourite movie.

eefs

29-05-2004, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by Mr_Wobble
It looks like a no brainer popcorn muncher of a film. Just switch off, kick back, munch your popcorn, and just enjoy the special effects. There may be some sort of a cheesy, hammed up, cliched, typically crappy Hollywood sentimental crap, thing going on, and at the end you won't give a damn about the characters.
I'd prefer to save my pennies for a film like Troy. But I still may go to see it on a cheap day/morning. I just know (like Van Helsing I saw last night) that I'd resent paying full price to see an unchallenging and uninspiring film like The Day After Tomorrow is going to be.

And you don't think "Troy" would be a "cheesy, hammed up, cliched, typically crappy Hollywood sentimental crap"? Trust me...it was. just feck lots of muscles and sand in a movie and we're done. I'm not feeling the "Troy" love. And Gyllenhaal is far hotter than Brad. There, I said it.

Mr_Wobble

30-05-2004, 02:22 AM

Originally posted by eefs
And you don't think "Troy" would be a "cheesy, hammed up, cliched, typically crappy Hollywood sentimental crap"? Trust me...it was. just feck lots of muscles and sand in a movie and we're done. I'm not feeling the "Troy" love. And Gyllenhaal is far hotter than Brad. There, I said it. I don't expect great things from Troy either, hence why I'd only be really happy seeing it at cheap rate/half price. But I'd expect Troy to be better than The Day After Tomorrow.

Nastroman

30-05-2004, 02:26 AM

average at best really, and most of the effects were pretty gash too

Faith

30-05-2004, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by Mr_Wobble
Be prepared to be dissapointed. :(

:yes:

The Americans save the day! Woo! God bless America :rolleyes:

CHEESE.

BumbleBee

30-05-2004, 07:44 PM

Not seen it and probably won't get the chance but surely it doesn't matter whether it will happen in our lifetime or not? The message is there that we are destroying our planet.

funkyone

30-05-2004, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by BumbleBee
# The message is there that we are destroying our planet.

now that is another HUGE debate......

are we? really? of any major contiribution in the grand geological timescale? or are we changing things which would happen anyway? or are we trashing the place? should be trash it? who decides what is acceptable and what is not?

this could be a biggy!

BumbleBee

30-05-2004, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by funkyone
now that is another HUGE debate......

are we? really? of any major contiribution in the grand geological timescale? or are we changing things which would happen anyway? or are we trashing the place? should be trash it? who decides what is acceptable and what is not?

this could be a biggy!
Erm, yes I believe we are and I think it is selfish of people not to worry about it just because nothing too drastic will happen in their lifetimes. We will never know if it is something that would have happened naturally anyway.

~lil*butterfly~

02-06-2004, 03:32 PM

I saw it yesterday and I quite enjoyed it. Its not gonna win an Oscar thats for sure, but is was entertaining enough. I thought the Presidents speech at the end was cheesy but actually quite brave considering mainstream America's views about the enviroment.

Jowolvo

02-06-2004, 08:43 PM

I enjoyed it for what it was-and it was nice to see a film taht made me and my bro discuss environmental issues. I studied this in yr 1 at uni and it was very interesting-just scary at the same time.

Mr_Wobble

03-06-2004, 01:50 AM

Well, I'm going to see it tomorrow with a few workmates, so I'll let you know what I thought of it.

Young and sexy

03-06-2004, 01:57 AM

I went to see this tonight, but when i got there it was full. And so was every other film. I had to go back home. :(

Although, I don't see what the big fuss is about. IMO, it doesn't look that good - just another one of those Armageddon movies. Yawn worthy from the trailers. But i could totally change my mind by the time I've watched it.

Blah_ha

03-06-2004, 12:56 PM

I went to see it Tuesday, it was a good enough film. Nothing special but watchable.

naomi-louise

03-06-2004, 02:41 PM

i saw this and was dissapointed. it certainly is nowhere near strong enough to change a nations views and habits when it comes to pollution and global warming. it was so soppy, and just basically, crap.

wheresmyplacebo

03-06-2004, 03:06 PM

oh why couldnt we alll die in it!? why does america have to suceed

Halloween

03-06-2004, 06:59 PM

Because who else will save us if America doesn't? :rolleyes:

faerielights

03-06-2004, 09:00 PM

I thought the special effects in it were amazing especially the scene looking out over all the twisters.

Other than that it was pretty much average "OCEANOGRAPHER ignored, america knows best, america saves day"

From my pretty basic knowledge of climate and oceans, it does seem pretty acurate- reducing salinity stops circulation of ocean which in turn messes up the atmospheric circulation. Atmosphere re-equilibriates and we get a bit chilly. And wet. So they took it to extremes, but thats what everyone expects.

And in response to funkyone, yes, we are. Take a look at the figures for things like CO2 and global temperature and Ozone. They correlate quite nicely.

sprocket

03-06-2004, 11:02 PM

and now for the geologists point of view.

first off we are not in a greenhouse climate, we are infact currently residing in an ICEHOUSE climate. this is because the planet still has icecaps. if they melted, then we'd be in a greenhouse environment.

secondly, it doesn't matter how much of the so called "greenhouse" gases are pumped into the atmosphere, another ice age WILL occur. this is due to the Milankovic theory which denotes that the orbital path, eccentricity and axial tilt all alter periodically over many thousands of years causing the planet to move further away from the sun which in turn causes a cycle of global cooling.

thirdly, dennis quaid was a palaeo-climatologist in the film, not an oceanographer. sorry to be pedantic over this,lol

Mr_Wobble

04-06-2004, 01:05 AM

Saw it tonight, and I stand by what I said, a no brainer of a film. No plot to speak of, just special effects.

What was the point of that bloke trying to reach his son? I mean, he's a specialist who predicts the main storm will last a few days, then clear. So what does he do? Spend all the time walking in perilous conditions, loosing a friend, and putting another's at risk, not to mention his own, just to get there by the time the storm's finished. Like, duuuurrr! :rolleyes:
And another thing, it wasn't very realistic, I mean where were the reports about schools having to close because of problems with the boilers? :confused:

All in all, an very average film. I can't see how anybody could think it to be any more.

Simba T Lion

04-06-2004, 06:29 AM

Maybe I'm biased because I have the attention span of an ADD ridden 8 year old but I thought the film was long. Too long. And that always ruines movies in my opinion. It was good but it could have been shorter.

Mr_Wobble

04-06-2004, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by my_name
Maybe I'm biased because I have the attention span of an ADD ridden 8 year old but I thought the film was long. Too long. And that always ruines movies in my opinion. It was good but it could have been shorter.
Yeah, it was too long. I wasn't bored, but it felt a little padded out. If that moron of a metorolgist hadn't decided to walk to New York (which was uneccessary anyway), then it would've been a damned short film. :)

collegevamp

07-06-2004, 12:55 PM

It was a brit who had realised that the storm and ice age would happen (played by ian holm)
and i haven't seen it yet still waiting for it to come to my cinema but britian would probably be wiped out by the waves and the ice all the brits would have to go to the continent.

Indrid Cold

07-06-2004, 11:11 PM

I saw it earlier. I liked it, not boring at all, and it gave the right atmosphere. It made me feel the certainty of death as if I was living these event. Only thing I didn't like was that it didn't tell what happened in other countries in the world.
Quite irrelevant: I saw it with my brother, and we both agreed that Gyllenhaal's character was 100% as if they'd just put Donnie Darko in that movie. Not different at all.

lipsy

07-06-2004, 11:51 PM

i saw it last night and loved it! i could watch it again right now. it was pretty gloomy the whole way thoguh and i started crying when that guy cut his rope to save the others. and i then cried another 2 times!

*Lisa*

08-06-2004, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by Mr_Wobble
What was the point of that bloke trying to reach his son?

Because he had let his son down for the whole of his life, thats what.

Mr_Wobble

08-06-2004, 02:06 AM

Originally posted by *Lisa*
Because he had let his son down for the whole of his life, thats what. But it was stupid. He reckoned he knew how long the storm would last (a few days), so why didn't he wait until the storm had blown over, and then jump on a helicopter and fly to New York. Why walk miles in those conditions, risking his and others lives, just to prove he wouldn't let down his son. He just proved what an inconsiderate, pig headed, stupid fuckwit he is. That idea, story, and plot, had more holes than Swiss cheese! It sucked! It sucked ass! It sucked ass hard!
I don't mind suspending belief when it comes to movies, but that movie required me not to suspend it, but hang it until dead, put it in a lead lined coffin, and bury it in a ten foot deep hole, then fill the hole with concrete!

This film is by the same director as Independance Day. And it shows. Loads of special effects, but bugger all plot and believability. Modest entertainment at best. I can remember watching Independance Day and starting to look at my watch after an hour and a half, wishing it would hurry up and finish. Same with this film.

Mr_Wobble

08-06-2004, 02:17 AM

Originally posted by lipsy
i saw it last night and loved it! i could watch it again right now. it was pretty gloomy the whole way thoguh and i started crying when that guy cut his rope to save the others. and i then cried another 2 times! I nearly cried too - at the disbelief that they dare use such a cheesy cinematic cliche. I knew what was going to happen the moment they showed that long shot of them walking across the roof. Oh, I wonder what's going to happen here? :chin: Could someone fall through the roof? :chin: Oh look, someone has. What next? Could he drag them to their deaths, or will he scarifice his own life? :chin:

The only people who could've been surprised by that are those who haven't seen more than three films in their entire lives!

I would say I could write such drivel, but I don't think I'd have the nerve to even attempt to string so many worn out, tired, cliches together and present it to someone as a script.

Maybe it's just me. Maybe I've seen too many films. Maybe I've read too many books. Maybe I've got too much of an imagination. Maybe I've got some sort of built in cliche radar? But that film was just one after the other.

Halloween

08-06-2004, 02:22 AM

Originally posted by Mr_Wobble
That idea, story, and plot, had more holes than Swiss cheese! It sucked! It sucked ass! It sucked ass hard!

:lol:
pretty much sums the whole thing up.

RiSe & ShIne

08-06-2004, 02:24 AM

Originally posted by Mr_Wobble
I nearly cried too - at the disbelief that they dare use such a cheesy cinematic cliche. I knew what was going to happen the moment they showed that long shot of them walking across the roof. Oh, I wonder what's going to happen here? :chin: Could someone fall through the roof? :chin: Oh look, someone has. What next? Could he drag them to their deaths, or will he scarifice his own life? :chin:

The only people who could've been surprised by that are those who haven't seen more than three films in their entire lives!

I would say I could write such drivel, but I don't think I'd have the nerve to even attempt to string so many worn out, tired, cliches together and present it to someone as a script.

Maybe it's just me. Maybe I've seen too many films. Maybe I've read too many books. Maybe I've got too much of an imagination. Maybe I've got some sort of built in cliche radar? But that film was just one after the other.

It's no way near as bad as you're making out :p

Fair enough, it's not original. But name recent blockbuster that has been.

Mr_Wobble

08-06-2004, 02:25 AM

You know what I'd have done if I'd made that film? Had them all die!

The father stupidly walking in those conditions to reach his son. I'd have had that bloke fall throuh the roof, cut himself free, but fall and break his back. Then his friends deciding they can't leave him there, so hauling his sorry ass on a sledge until they run out of energy and die in a blizzard when they were only 50 feet from that fast food place where they could've got food and warmth. :D

Then that stupid kid in the hospital. Surprise surprise, and ambulance comes for him after the doctor's been told there won't be any more. You know what I'd have had happen - I'd have her turn around and kill the kid with a lethal injection once she hears the news, to put him out of his misery and save him a long slow death. Then just as she leaves the room the nurse comes back and says an ambulance had just turned up.

And that girl with the cut on her leg in the library. Despite their best efforts to get penicillin, being attacked by wolves, etc, I'd have her die anyway. And a few of the others freeze to death for good measure!

None of that cheesy drivel that film used. Have the main characters die!

Mr_Wobble

08-06-2004, 02:27 AM

Originally posted by RiSe & ShIne
It's no way near as bad as you're making out :p

Fair enough, it's not original. But name recent blockbuster that has been. Kill Bill 2 (and by default that would have to include Kill Bill 1), and The Butterfly Effect. You couldn't be too sure how those films would turn out. They kept you on edge, they kept you involved, they kept you interested. They entertained you by engaging you.

RiSe & ShIne

08-06-2004, 02:32 AM

Originally posted by Mr_Wobble
Kill Bill 2 (and by default that would have to include Kill Bill 1), and The Butterfly Effect. You couldn't be too sure how those films would turn out. They kept you on edge, they kept you involved, they kept you interested. They entertained you by engaging you.

Obviously Kill Bill, becuase it's from the best Director around. Haven't seen The ButterFly Effect so camn't comment on that.

But almost all Western films use the concept's from past films, they just rehash them a bit, and then stick them out. That's why I love Japenese films. They're not afraid to try something different.