The people who know tell it like it is: Blair is Bush's poodle

[Aladdin]

As you will all have heard, yesterday saw the biggest attack ever launched on a Prime Minister when no fewer than 52 British ex-diplomats wrote a letter fiercely critical of the British government's unconditional support of Bush's policy on Iraq and Israel. The attack is unprecedented in British politics and reflects the high anxiety and extreme unease of the diplomatic community with Blair's foreign policy. Full story. (http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=515706)

I doubt it will make any difference to the Great Leader, but it is nice to see that practically everyone now- not only politicians and the public but actual diplomats who have served in the Middle East and understand it best- have now told Blair he got it deeply wrong and that his disgusting unconditional backing of US foreign policy goes against British policy on the Middle East and it will cost yet more blood.

Not only the absolute and utter shambles the situation in Iraq is, but also Blair's conformity with the filthy endorsement Dubya gave to the Butcher of Tel Aviv's plans for a partial withdrawal from Palestine.

We all know how Blair likes to think 'trust me, I know best' when dealing with public opinion. I wonder if he will dare to be so patronising to the people who understand the Middle East a trillion times better than the British and American governments put together...

[Braineater]

I actually believe Blair is naive enough to think he is doing the world good. The sad thing is there is no alternative to him. Let's see what happens to his precious reputation if Kerry wins the US Presidency, I doubt he has many Democrat friends on the other side of the Atlantic.

[Aladdin]

You know there is something very wrong with this people when you see a Labour government endorsing a Republican candidate for the US Presidency- and the most dangerous and ultra right wing in living memory as well.

I really look forward to the twat's reply to the letter. The diplomats will probably be accused of being anti-semite or something... :rolleyes:

[budda]

Its not strickly the largest of its type, I think some 150 economists put a letter in The Times about Thatcher.

But its certainly an interesting move.

But even if Blair openly didnt aggree with Bush about his plans for the Middle East, do you think Bush would change his mind in an election year? Of course not. Its not just the Jewish vote, most American Christians believe in Israel too.

And at the next election, what do we get, Vote Blair, Get Brown!

[Kermit]

The thing about Blair that I can't work out is his rationale.

I can't decide if he truly believes that he is a wonderful statesman who is doing a huge favour to the whole world by making it better, or if he has ulterior motives and is just hiding behind the moralistic nonsense he comes out with.

And I'm not entirely sure which is worse; in a way I hope he IS a liar, because it's a lot easier to deal with that someone actually believing that what he is doing is morally correct.

[Aladdin]

Completely agree Kermit. Can't really understand whether he has been really hypnotised by the US President (how could anyone be hypnotised by someone so profoundly stupid, deluded and incompetent???), whether he has a hidden agenda and geopolitical grand plans like the neo-cons in America, or whether he simply believes he's doing a good job and steering the US government in the 'right' direction as well.

[budda]

I think he really believes it, you think back to all the flip flapping he did on any number of issues, he total reliance on the focus group for ideas.

Now, even though the majority of the country had serious doubts over the war, he goes ahead, the modern day Churchil.

He believes his own hype and I think he is ready to risk his job to do it.

[Clandestine]

Yes but what you fail to understand is that ultimately Tony can afford to risk his current job having cozied up sufficiently to the Bush dynasty to ensure a waiting seat on the Carlyle Group board should he be ousted.

[girl with sharp teeth]

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[Aladdin]

That'd surely be the end of the EU.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by girl with sharp teeth
But what he really wants is the EU presidency..... oe yes, ow yes!!!

he is more poodle to Europe than our American friends.

[Aladdin]

Who are these American 'friends' you speak of?

Because you couldn't possibly be referring to the US government as a 'friend' of this country.

With friends like those...

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Aladdin
Who are these American 'friends' you speak of?

Because you couldn't possibly be referring to the US government as a 'friend' of this country.

With friends like those... like Bush said we are Americas real friends.

unlike europe who stick the rod in our back all of the time.

[Aladdin]

LOL... Bush fucks Blair up the arse on every given occasion.

- They get to install the early listening stations for their Star Wars Shield system in Britain. Yet we won't even be covered by it. Guess what would be the first thing anyone would attack if they wanted to disable the shield...

- They sell us their missile technology for our nuclear deterrent on the condition that they share the launch codes (or some other stuff). Which means in practice we couldn't even launch our own deterrent without US' consent.

- We agree to part fund their absurdly expensive Joint Strike Fighter programme... and again, we won't have any say on vital technological characteristics or weapons systems the aircraft is to have.

- They use our unconditional political support to drum up their imperialistic war on Iraq... and then they completely ignore us after they promised they would sort out the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in a balanced way in return for our support on Iraq.

- They claim to be our best friends and allies... yet they happily embark on trade tariffs and embargoes that damage our economy and fingerprint us on arrival to their country like criminals.

Some fucking ‘Special Relationship’!

[lukesh]

noe give us a list of the bad things europe have done to us?

[Aladdin]

Yes indeed. Why don't you start?

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Aladdin
Yes indeed. Why don't you start? i asked you first...

[Aladdin]

I can't think of any. As far as I'm concerned you are the one who thinks Britain is worse off with our European friends and neighbours than with an alien nation 3,000 miles away.

So why don't YOU tell me what is it that Europe has done to us?

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Aladdin
I can't think of any. As far as I'm concerned you are the one who thinks Britain is worse off with our European friends and neighbours than with an alien nation 3,000 miles away.

So why don't YOU tell me what is it that Europe has done to us? done for us... took millions of our money every week, telling us that we can't sell bent bananas lmao, france try their hardest to not make english the official language of Europe, france imposes a long ban to our beef... to conclusion we put lots into europe but get very little.

by the way iam NOT anti europe just anti joining polically. trade and trade ONLY!

[Aladdin]

Originally posted by lukesh
done for us... took millions of our money every week And yet you forget to mention the benefits we get from them

telling us that we can't sell bent bananas lmao Do you see now why people despair at your trying to debate issues from the information you read in the S*n? :rolleyes:

You do believe anything don't you?



france try their hardest to not make english the official language of Europe, france imposes a long ban to our beef... to conclusion we put lots into europe but get very little.
More myths and rubbish.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Aladdin
And yet you forget to mention the benefits we get from them

Do you see now why people despair at your trying to debate issues from the information you read in the S*n? :rolleyes:

You do believe anything don't you?




More myths and rubbish. you keep proving me right again. like i said before anything i say it's either rubbish or from the sun.

[Aladdin]

I'm sorry mate but if you insist on talking rubbish it will be pointed out to you that you're talking rubbish.

"Can't sell bent bananas..." ffs...

[Blagsta]

Originally posted by lukesh
done for us... took millions of our money every week, telling us that we can't sell bent bananas lmao, france try their hardest to not make english the official language of Europe, france imposes a long ban to our beef... to conclusion we put lots into europe but get very little.

What the fuck are you on about now? LOL! :D

[Blagsta]

Originally posted by lukesh
you keep proving me right again. like i said before anything i say it's either rubbish or from the sun.

Thats because the things you prattle on about are not true.

[marv]

france try their hardest to not make english the official language of Europe

Why should English be the Offical langauage of Europe?

There is about at the moment 13 diffrent langauages at the moment in the EU. May 1st this will increase.

took millions of our money every week

The UK has a rebate

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2360889.stm

read that and it will explain

[Yerascrote]

lukesh, i'd rather be friends with decent proper allies from our own continent than some inbred hick, bible-bashing reactionary tramp who hasn't got a clue what he's on about and who's split the Uk in two when at this time everyone needs to stay together, it annoys me so much when these righ wingers come in and talk absolute bollocks and they genunely think they're talking sense when any right minded perosn knows they're talking sh*t, ahhh the anger, i'm ok now :)

[Aladdin]

But what do you expect Turlough? At the end of the day, God himself talks to Bush and tells him what to do, according to Dubya.

I mean, if the Lord himself is dictating Bush's foreign policy we shouldn't doubt it at all, right? :D :rolleyes:

[RiSe & ShIne]

Originally posted by Aladdin
But what do you expect Turlough? At the end of the day, God himself talks to Bush and tells him what to do, according to Dubya.

I mean, if the Lord himself is dictating Bush's foreign policy we shouldn't doubt it at all, right? :D :rolleyes:

I wonder what would happen if one day while Bush was giving the orders to drop yet more bombs on a random country, and the 'God' that speaks to him disagreed. D'you think he'd declare war on Heaven? :chin:

[Sgt Hicks]

Blair is poo, so is bush, bring in the National party, only for the fact they would care bout all the british in the country instead of all the ilegal imigrants etc.

also i am not racist,


hicks

[Blagsta]

Did that make sense to anyone? :confused:

[Yerascrote]

Originally posted by Sgt Hicks
bring in the National party
also i am not racist,


:rolleyes:

[Aladdin]

Ladies and gents, remove the sign in the window: the position has been filled. :D

[budda]

Originally posted by Sgt Hicks
Blair is poo, so is bush, bring in the National party, only for the fact they would care bout all the british in the country instead of all the ilegal imigrants etc.

also i am not racist,


hicks

Yep, Blair really only cares about all those NON voting illegal immigrants, the ones who mean we can have farming and a hospitality trade within the UK.

Take a look at our birth rate and tell me with a straight face we do NOT need immigrants.

[Sgt Hicks]

We DO-NOT need imigrants :)


hicks

[Aladdin]

Oh yes we do.

What we do not need is bigots and xenophobes- not that I'm saying you're one of them naturally.

[budda]

We have a birth rate thats too low to maintain our population and we are, on average, getting older.

How would YOU cope with the number of pensioners compared to workers if people are obviously not having enough babies?

[Man Of Kent]

Originally posted by Sgt Hicks
We DO-NOT need imigrants :)

Poland has trained nursing staff.

The UK needs trained nursing staff.

You work it out...

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Man Of Kent
Poland has trained nursing staff.

The UK needs trained nursing staff.

You work it out... we have stupid civil servant jobs... get rid of them and train them as nruses... get the unemployment level even more down by training them to be nurses.

[Blagsta]

Originally posted by Sgt Hicks
We DO-NOT need imigrants :)


hicks

Errr...we do. The NHS would collapse without them for a start.

We don't need racist idiots though.

[Clandestine]

Here's a novel suggestion Lukesh, why don't YOU train as a nurse if you dont wish to see foreigners taking those jobs.

[Blagsta]

God help the NHS if he does. :rolleyes:

[xicoperez]

Originally posted by Clandestine
Here's a novel suggestion Lukesh, why don't YOU train as a nurse if you dont wish to see foreigners taking those jobs.

:mad: Will you shut up! Yeah, you live in Brussels, you'd be safe from him. What about us? :nervous:

[budda]

Lukesh; The unemployment level is seen by many to be too low already, if we could actually manage to get the unemplyed to retrain as nurses we'd have to import workers in other sectors.

Have you tried getting a plumber, brickie...any builder basically recently?

Plumbers in West London get paid somewhere about £50+ an HOUR!! You tell me thats not because of a skill shortage.

Very very low unemployment is actually a bad thing, its better to support a few who dont feel like working rather than not have enough people for the jobs that are there.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by bongbudda
Lukesh; The unemployment level is seen by many to be too low already, if we could actually manage to get the unemplyed to retrain as nurses we'd have to import workers in other sectors.

Have you tried getting a plumber, brickie...any builder basically recently?

Plumbers in West London get paid somewhere about £50+ an HOUR!! You tell me thats not because of a skill shortage.

Very very low unemployment is actually a bad thing, its better to support a few who dont feel like working rather than not have enough people for the jobs that are there. We still have over a million people on the dole so why can't we train them up?

[budda]

Because many of those will never work, its as simple as that.

I am not suggesting that more could not be done to help the unemployed, but you have to understand there are people who just can not or will not work.

The less unemployed we have the harder it is for businesses to get people, so the higher wages they end up paying, this leads to higher costs and higher prices, which again leads to higher wages...and so on.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by bongbudda
Because many of those will never work, its as simple as that.

I am not suggesting that more could not be done to help the unemployed, but you have to understand there are people who just can not or will not work.

The less unemployed we have the harder it is for businesses to get people, so the higher wages they end up paying, this leads to higher costs and higher prices, which again leads to higher wages...and so on. I have no objection for immigrants to work in this country but I think we should get our unemployment rock bottom!

[budda]

The idea of immigrants coming here and stealing the jobs off the "locals" is BOLLOX though.

Our unemployment is very near 'rock bottom' whatever that means, its the lowest is been in many years.

Immigrants coming here and working ADDS to the country, it does not take away. They work and spend which helps the economy and therefore creates NEW jobs.

[Aladdin]

Like bongbudda said, some people cannot or will not work- neither you can train anybody to do any job.

So migrants coming here and doing those jobs are and should be welcomed by everyone.

[LadyJade]

Here are the figures for employment levels - from the National Statistics website (http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=12)

[lukesh]

the thing is though... people get so mixed up with working migrants and them who want to sponge off the state.


the sun and many other newspapers are deeply concerned with these coming here and taking our benefits. I'm not bothered what Blair has said about benefits because if they come with their kids we will have to look after them.

Migrant workers are not a problem, them who will scronge off the system are.

[Aladdin]

It's all very well for the tabloids to say they don't mind "decent, hard-working economic migrants who come to this country to earn a decent living and better themselves and this nation". That's good.

It's a shame then that according to them every single immigrant who ever comes or thinks of coming to this country appears to be a "sponger" coming here to "milk our generous welfare system".

I didn't see any such generous offers from the S*n extended to the people of Eastern Europe when it kept warning us of the 'waves of immigrants' coming here on May 1'.

And why? Because they don't want ANY immigrants coming in. Because they are a bunch of racist selfish bastards.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Aladdin
It's all very well for the tabloids to say they don't mind "decent, hard-working economic migrants who come to this country to earn a decent living and better themselves and this nation". That's good.

It's a shame then that according to them every single immigrant who ever comes or thinks of coming to this country appears to be a "sponger" coming here to "milk our generous welfare system".

I didn't see any such generous offers from the S*n extended to the people of Eastern Europe when it kept warning us of the 'waves of immigrants' coming here on May 1'.

And why? Because they don't want ANY immigrants coming in. Because they are a bunch of racist selfish bastards. swearing again.... tut



i'm sorry you have got it wrong. The sun doesn't want scrongers but it clearly says all of the time in it's paper that it likes economic migrants and the funny thing is, The sun does have Asian/Black?white and what ever else people working for them.

[wheresmyplacebo]

Originally posted by lukesh
the thing is though... people get so mixed up with working migrants and them who want to sponge off the state.


the sun and many other newspapers are deeply concerned with these coming here and taking our benefits. I'm not bothered what Blair has said about benefits because if they come with their kids we will have to look after them.

Migrant workers are not a problem, them who will scronge off the system are.

but there is virtually none who come here to sponge benefits, 99% of the people who 'sponge' benefits are the ones who sit in the pub drinking away their dole money moaning at the 'bloody foreigners'

[lukesh]

Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
but there is virtually none who come here to sponge benefits, 99% of the people who 'sponge' benefits are the ones who sit in the pub drinking away their dole money moaning at the 'bloody foreigners' them who are on the dole are most liely to moan too right but I'm not I'm 16 lol and I moan. Them who take benefits and thinkl we can keep them then they are not welcome in my country,

[Aladdin]

Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
but there is virtually none who come here to sponge benefits, 99% of the people who 'sponge' benefits are the ones who sit in the pub drinking away their dole money moaning at the 'bloody foreigners' Hear hear hear hear!!

Lukesh, remember all the S*n front pages we've had to endure since January the 1st regarding the "tens and tens of thousands of Eastern Europeans planning to come to Britain on May 1st?"

There have been quite a few (and countless more pieces and editorial articles inside) and at not point it has been suggested that any of them wanted to come to work here. The articles and front pages have been openly hostile and every last one suggested the immense majority if not all of those "tens of thousands" allegedly coming here next week were 'spongers'.

Talk about generalisation, manipulation, distortion and plain bigotry.

[wheresmyplacebo]

Originally posted by lukesh
them who are on the dole are most liely to moan too right but I'm not I'm 16 lol and I moan. Them who take benefits and thinkl we can keep them then they are not welcome in my country,

but the point im trying to get to is, there is no actual problem or incoming problem with immmigrants sponging benefits, and i know the imigration system itself is a shambles, but almost all of the immgirants are doing good here and contributing, and the ones who get through the net, well they do their very best too and asde from having armed border guards shooting them as they cross, you cant do much else

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Aladdin
Hear hear hear hear!!

Lukesh, remember all the S*n front pages we've had to endure since January the 1st regarding the "tens and tens of thousands of Eastern Europeans planning to come to Britain on May 1st?"

There have been quite a few (and countless more pieces and editorial articles inside) and at not point it has been suggested that any of them wanted to come to work here. The articles and front pages have been openly hostile and every last one suggested the immense majority if not all of those "tens of thousands" allegedly coming here next week were 'spongers'.

Talk about generalisation, manipulation, distortion and plain bigotry. yes it did, may not have made front page but they did say some are coming for work.

they are only telling us what the government isn't and they knew for ages what beverley hughes was up too and the truth finally came out.

[wheresmyplacebo]

the fact is it isnt SOME looking for work, if any of these suposed 10s of thousands of immigrants are coming here definetly, ALMOST ALL just want work and dont want benefits, cause they would go france or germany if they wanted that

and yeh the government are fools but all governments are */cynicism* and they are trying to stop the racist bigtory that is the sun or mail or express by appeasing them by trying to act hard when they arent really which only makes people trust them less

[lukesh]

Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
the fact is it isnt SOME looking for work, if any of these suposed 10s of thousands of immigrants are coming here definetly, ALMOST ALL just want work and dont want benefits, cause they would go france or germany if they wanted that

and yeh the government are fools but all governments are */cynicism* and they are trying to stop the racist bigtory that is the sun or mail or express by appeasing them by trying to act hard when they arent really which only makes people trust them less are you lot papers mad? people have their own mind you know.




Conclusions: we don't want scrongers but workers only.

[wheresmyplacebo]

i culda said that years ago, dont you think we all want that????

its just the amount of apparant sponger is sooo overexagerrated and there is no real problem facing this o****ry with spongers that well its news that shouldnt really be news

[lukesh]

Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
i culda said that years ago, dont you think we all want that????

its just the amount of apparant sponger is sooo overexagerrated and there is no real problem facing this o****ry with spongers that well its news that shouldnt really be news it's news that concerns the readers of the paper.

[LadyJade]

Originally posted by lukesh
are you lot papers mad? people have their own mind you know.

Where do most people get the information required to form an considered opinion, besides experience?

[Blagsta]

Originally posted by lukesh
the thing is though... people get so mixed up with working migrants and them who want to sponge off the state.


the sun and many other newspapers are deeply concerned with these coming here and taking our benefits. I'm not bothered what Blair has said about benefits because if they come with their kids we will have to look after them.

Migrant workers are not a problem, them who will scronge off the system are.

Have you ever tried to live on benefits?
Of course you haven't, you're only 16.
Its not easy. Most people don't come here to get benefits. They come here to better themselves.

[Blagsta]

Originally posted by lukesh
Them who take benefits and thinkl we can keep them then they are not welcome in my country,

Please present us with some evidence of this.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by LadyJade
Where do most people get the information required to form an considered opinion, besides experience? yeah but if you have a right wing view on here they balme the papers for making you a right wing. well thats the impression I get.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Blagsta
Have you ever tried to live on benefits?
Of course you haven't, you're only 16.
Its not easy. Most people don't come here to get benefits. They come here to better themselves. I know a lot of people who live off benefits and I guess that most of Stokes population live off some benefits.

Jusdt you guys think yeah... these gypsies frojm eastern europe will come here for benefits.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Blagsta
Please present us with some evidence of this. what? It's my opinion. lol

don't you think that too?

[xicoperez]

Originally posted by lukesh
Jusdt you guys think yeah... these gypsies frojm eastern europe will come here for benefits.

Before I say anything... please explain.

[marv]

these gypsies frojm eastern europe will come here for benefits.

Do you mean the Roma people?

Read this article
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2666585.stm

If these people cant be classed as asluym seekers then who is?

(edited to add)

here is another article

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1525617.stm

[Blagsta]

Originally posted by lukesh
you guys think yeah... these gypsies frojm eastern europe will come here for benefits.

Evidence?

[Blagsta]

Originally posted by lukesh
what? It's my opinion. lol

don't you think that too?

Evidence for these people coming to take our benefits.

[budda]

Theres a lot of critical talk on here about The Sun and so on, calling them racist.

I dont think they are, I'm sure if you talked to most of their editors then you'd actually find they could care less about this. (well Murdock excluded).

Stories like 'Asylum seeker eats Queens Swan shocker!!' sell papers, they play off peoples fears of outsiders.

I think its actually nastier than racism because its a very cynical ploy.

Immigrants should be welcomed, the arguments have been gone over so much on here I cant be bothered to go over them again.

[lukesh]

this forum is like this...

if you are right wing, a sun reader or any other right wing paper... express.....

you are racist, little englander, hates europe and doens't like foreign people.


lol

[xicoperez]

Originally posted by lukesh
Jusdt you guys think yeah... these gypsies frojm eastern europe will come here for benefits.

I'll ask again...

Please explain this statement.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by xicoperez
I'll ask again...

Please explain this statement. Gypsies yes? They will come to the Uk for our benefits.

[xicoperez]

Originally posted by lukesh
Gypsies yes? They will come to the Uk for our benefits.

How elocuent... :banghead:

Sorry all-mighty and beautiful LadyJade, I will not post anymore personal comments against Lukesh. But it is so difficult. I'll do what I can.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by xicoperez
How elocuent... :banghead:

Sorry all-mighty and beautiful LadyJade, I will not post anymore personal comments against Lukesh. But it is so difficult. I'll do what I can. how do you think I feel when you keep sayijg I'm a liar. what about you I think your alair too.

[xicoperez]

Originally posted by lukesh
how do you think I feel when you keep sayijg I'm a liar. what about you I think your alair too.

When did I say you were a liar?

[lukesh]

Originally posted by xicoperez
When did I say you were a liar? you aint but thats the impression i recieve.

[Renzo]

Originally posted by lukesh
Gypsies yes? They will come to the Uk for our benefits.

Answer me this Lukesh, what percentage of people coming from the new EU members do you think are going come here just to receive all there money off the state?

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Renzokuken
Answer me this Lukesh, what percentage of people coming from the new EU members do you think are going come here just to receive all there money off the state? in MY opinion, 50% at least...

[Blagsta]

Originally posted by lukesh
Gypsies yes? They will come to the Uk for our benefits.

Evidence?

[Blagsta]

Originally posted by lukesh
in MY opinion, 50% at least...

What do you base your opinion on?

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Blagsta
What do you base your opinion on? from sources and facts i read.

[xicoperez]

Originally posted by lukesh
you aint but thats the impression i recieve.

When we are talking about facts I don't think you are a liar, I think you just don't know any better.

If we are talking about your opinions I don't think you are a liar, it's just that you are usually wrong, because you base your opinions on false facts, because you don't know any better.

[Blagsta]

Originally posted by lukesh
from sources and facts i read.

Which sources? The Sun?

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Blagsta
Which sources? The Sun? one of many.

[LadyJade]

Originally posted by xicoperez
How elocuent... :banghead:

Sorry all-mighty and beautiful LadyJade, I will not post anymore personal comments against Lukesh. But it is so difficult. I'll do what I can.

I appreciate your efforts Xico!

And Lukesh, your comment about migrants and benefits is out of order. If you are quoting from a source, you need to put a link up to support what you have said, and give people the background to your opinion. Otherwise, be aware that what you are saying could be considered racist.

[Blagsta]

Originally posted by lukesh
one of many.

Which other sources. Post links please.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Blagsta
Which other sources. Post links please. why... so you can take the micky? no thnak you.

[Blagsta]

If you don't post sources, everyone's gonna rip the piss big time.

[xicoperez]

Originally posted by lukesh
why... so you can take the micky? no thnak you.

We already do because you don't post sources...

Take the micky, do adults use that?

[lukesh]

Originally posted by xicoperez
We already do because you don't post sources...

Take the micky, do adults use that? I don't know, I'm not an adult.

[LadyJade]

Originally posted by xicoperez
Take the micky, do adults use that? [/B]

I do..... or take the michael....

[xicoperez]

I prefer: You're taking the piss! (with a Scottish accent).

[Aladdin]

"You're having a larf!" is not bad either.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Aladdin
"You're having a larf!" is not bad either. larf lmao!!!

[Aladdin]

Getting the issue back on track a bit (how on earth did we go from Iraq and UK diplomats to race and immigration? :rolleyes: ) I see that some 50 American retired diplomats have now written a letter to Dubya as well, with very similar concerns and complaints. Full story. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3681641.stm)

Kind of wonder what kind of reaction this will provoke from the public and US government. No doubt some of them will have been branded traitors before the day is over.

As with Blair, extreme incompetence has prompted unheard of action from people who have made an art of, er being diplomatic. This is just another sign of what a catastrophic disaster the government of G. W. Bush has been for his country and the whole world. Surely there couldn't be a single person left on the planet who thinks Bush deserves to be re-elected? Has he done anything at all right in his 4 years?