What prisons are for?

[LabRat]

Prisons are shame, ugliness and crap!
But they exist so please answer a simple question- what is prisons’ function?
I know there are three widespread views: 1) to isolate criminals from society… or maybe society from criminals 2) to discipline them 3) just of revenge. Your opinion?

PS for me all three reasons are wrong any of them doesn’t work

[*raver*]

The also act as a deterent. Most people don't commit crime because they don't want to go to prison.

[Whowhere]

Punishment

[LabRat]

Good Heavens, punishment and deterrent is the same that disciplining! To make them not commit crimes in the future. As I said it never works- prisons produce more new criminals than fix old ones! Every kid knows this.

[Whowhere]

So? Many people accepted a long time ago prison doesn't deter, it PUNISHES.
If someone has a crime comitted against them they want to know the person found guilty is punished for their crime.
It's a system that is in place in every populated country on Earth, and has been for hundreds of years.

[Blagsta]

Doesn't work very well does it.

[Namaste]

Apparently making the prisoner face the victim and talk to them works... isn't it called restorative justice?

If people want to lower crime rates, wouldn't it be a start for a level of trust to be built between the police and communities? Then at least people may feel a sense of responsiblity... maybe if the poverty gap was made smaller too there'd be less relative deprivation.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by MoonRat
Apparently making the prisoner face the victim and talk to them works... isn't it called restorative justice?

If people want to lower crime rates, wouldn't it be a start for a level of trust to be built between the police and communities? Then at least people may feel a sense of responsiblity... maybe if the poverty gap was made smaller too there'd be less relative deprivation. 99% of the time that won't work. it's just an easy escape for the criminal.

[BlackArab]

Do you have official figures on that? The Home Office seems to suggest otherwise.

Quote:

For victims, research suggests that at least 75% of those who take part are glad they did so. The process allows victims to impress upon the offender the real impact of their actions and receive an explanation.

Source:

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/justice/victims/restorative/index.html

[lukesh]

Originally posted by BlackArab
Do you have official figures on that? The Home Office seems to suggest otherwise.

Quote:

For victims, research suggests that at least 75% of those who take part are glad they did so. The process allows victims to impress upon the offender the real impact of their actions and receive an explanation.

Source:

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/justice/victims/restorative/index.html I believe that figure just like I believe their asylum figures.

[BlackArab]

Originally posted by lukesh
I believe that figure just like I believe their asylum figures.

So do you have a credible source to back up yours.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by BlackArab
So do you have a credible source to back up yours. at least i don't get mine from the government who are the lairs of the liars.

[BlackArab]

:chin:

[RiSe & ShIne]

Originally posted by lukesh
at least i don't get mine from the government who are the lairs of the liars.

Yeah, 'cause The Sun tells the absolute, untainted truth.

[Blagsta]

Originally posted by lukesh
I believe that figure just like I believe their asylum figures.

Are you for real?

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Blagsta
Are you for real? nope just talking common sense.

[Blagsta]

So who would you believe? The Sun? :rolleyes:

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Blagsta
So who would you believe? The Sun? :rolleyes: Them over the government anyday!

[Blagsta]

You're an idiot then. You're not gonna do very well in your A/S levels with an attitude like that.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Blagsta
You're an idiot then. You're not gonna do very well in your A/S levels with an attitude like that. cheers.

[Blagsta]

Just telling it how it is.

[RiSe & ShIne]

Originally posted by lukesh
Them over the government anyday!

I think all those Page 3 girls must be having an adverse affect on your brain.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by RiSe & ShIne
I think all those Page 3 girls must be having an adverse affect on your brain. do you think? I better check with the doctor.

[RiSe & ShIne]

Originally posted by lukesh
do you think? I better check with the doctor.

It would be a start.

[lukesh]

Originally posted by RiSe & ShIne
It would be a start. better start reading the guradian and believe thing labour government lmaooooooooo

[RiSe & ShIne]

Originally posted by lukesh
better start reading the guradian and believe thing labour government lmaooooooooo

I'd believe a drunk, retarded homeless person before i'd believe the sun.

"lmaoooooooooooooo"

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Aspartame
What about the BBC News website?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/ I do read it but many of their stoires are anti english.

[Blagsta]

Originally posted by lukesh
many of their stoires are anti english.

Examples?

[lukesh]

Originally posted by Blagsta
Examples? you want to know you look.

[Blagsta]

Originally posted by lukesh
you want to know you look.

Funny how you can never ever answer a direct question.

[Blagsta]

But why are kids turning to crime?

[Namaste]

Originally posted by Blagsta
But why are kids turning to crime?

I always thought it was to do with relative deprivation, poor parenting, lack of a sense of community and boredom...

and again, maybe a rapport needs to be built between communities and the police.

[Man Of Kent]

Originally posted by lukesh
at least i don't get mine from the government who are the lairs of the liars.

Can we take that as a "no" then?

If the only evidence provided backs up what someone else is saying, why should we believe your "99%" claim?

And it's a very well dismissing someone else's sources but you should do so one the basis that they are "anti-english" unless you can back that claim up too. I would seriously love to see anything which supports that claim...

[xicoperez]

Originally posted by lukesh
at least i don't get mine from the government who are the lairs of the liars.

"So who would you believe? The Sun?"
Them over the government anyday!

I do read it but many of their stoires are anti english.

This guy is really funny! :lol:

[lukesh]

Originally posted by xicoperez
This guy is really funny! :lol: so nice to make u laff.