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Iknowyourmum
05-04-2004, 03:29 PM
Why is it that there are a lot of apparently straight women are Bi-curious Iv met a few and gone out with a couple who wanted to snog another girl and contemplated sleeping with one. You don’t get any straight blokes saying they want to go with another man.
Also Iv seen on TV (never met one) a woman who’s a lesbian saying “I went out with guys all my life and never knew I was a Lesbian then I met xxx and now Im happy and don’t want to go with a guy” again there is no bloke who would say the same thing, and although Id like to have sex with 2 girls I prefer it when a girl says she’s absolutely no desire to go with another women
I'd say it's because women are more open sexually. The media nowadays has gave a green light for women to explore all her sexuality in anyways, where it has usually been a taboo.
I think that women are more easy on the eye, more tender than a bloke to have sex with. But blokes will always be more equipped, so it's a no win situation. :(
I prefer my pen0r anyhoo :p
Cuddilicious
05-04-2004, 04:20 PM
Its the year '2004' - People are now more open minded about their sexuality - .
Women can be more passionate and sensual than a man even if it means being with another woman.
Nothing wrong with that, is there?
Capacity
05-04-2004, 04:32 PM
I'd say, don't believe everything that you read on Internet profiles.
Iknowyourmum
05-04-2004, 04:38 PM
I wasnt saying its wrong just find it suprising,, and it underlines one of the differences between men and women.
Originally posted by Capacity
I'd say, don't believe everything that you read on Internet profiles.
Que? :confused:
VinylVicky
05-04-2004, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Iknowyourmum
Why is it that there are a lot of apparently straight women are Bi-curious Iv met a few and gone out with a couple who wanted to snog another girl and contemplated sleeping with one. You don’t get any straight blokes saying they want to go with another man.
Also Iv seen on TV (never met one) a woman who’s a lesbian saying “I went out with guys all my life and never knew I was a Lesbian then I met xxx and now Im happy and don’t want to go with a guy” again there is no bloke who would say the same thing, and although Id like to have sex with 2 girls I prefer it when a girl says she’s absolutely no desire to go with another women
they do it because of lot og men like to drool over them. Maybe they like drool.
Iknowyourmum
05-04-2004, 04:41 PM
I certainly didnt get my information from an internet profile, I dont even beleive my own one
Kermit
05-04-2004, 05:47 PM
There are more bisexual women because bisexuality in women is now socially acceptable- there are enough lesbian and bisexual characters in the media to make it so.
More men than you would think would be bi-curious, but there still remians the same stigma regarding male bisexuality- the attitude still remains that you are either a bloke or a woofter, and that there is no in-between.
Docter Lurve
05-04-2004, 06:10 PM
Women are greedy plain and simple!:yes:
Women are better looking mroe tender, into pleasing theoir partners and respceting their needs and so much more.
Men by and large just want normal legs in the air sex-
Women can please other women better than most men can (except me of course :naughty: )
And men are too macho- gays are often seen as weaker failures outcasts etc:
hybrid
05-04-2004, 07:54 PM
Women are probably more open minded; 'oh she's hot, maybe I'd sleep with her if I was gay' etc whereas some men often have 'omg Im not a f*g urgh two men together is disgusting' etc.
Maybe they're not as open to the idea of being bisexual or even gay because they're scared that they might like it?
Kermit
05-04-2004, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by hybrid
Maybe they're not as open to the idea of being bisexual or even gay because they're scared that they might like it?
I think that's probably very true.
Everyone is bisexual to a greater or lesser extent I reckon- it's just easier for girls to accept it, I think.
freak
05-04-2004, 10:52 PM
i think guys are just less willing to admit their curiosity based on the stigma associated.i think theres less pressure on women to be 'straight' + not willing to explore because of how society is.also most guys seem to get turned on by 2 women, but less women are turned on by 2 guys.due to this its probably less desirable for men to be openly curious.also (+im sorry if im stereotyping a lot!!!) guys (or those i know) tend to not accept gays as much as girls i know.the guys dont seem to mind lesbians but are uncomfortable around the gays. however i find the girls aren't really bothered either way (although lets face it theres always one who has major issues:rolleyes: )
i know i have generalised+im not sayin applies to everyone just tryin to give an overview so no offence so anyone intended.:)
Cuddilicious
06-04-2004, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by Kermit
Everyone is bisexual to a greater or lesser extent I reckon- it's just easier for girls to accept it, I think.
It's a known fact that no one is 100% straight - just varies on how you cope with your feelings.
I think people can still be a bit narrow minded about guys' sexuality so it's harder for them to be out in the open about it.
People just seem to be more laid back about lesbians than gays.
Amira
06-04-2004, 06:20 AM
i also think that women can be more sensitive to eachothers needs and in some ways i feel women are a better choice for girls simply because girls know what eachother go through and wont be half as twattish as men can be.
and yes i have bi-tendencies which my family when they found out are finding it very difficult to deal with....*sigh* not totally accepted :/
lil_minx
06-04-2004, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by Capacity
I'd say, don't believe everything that you read on Internet profiles.
lol
in some cases, its almost fashionable to be bisexual which can make grils curious, which was what my mum warned me about when i told her i was (this was at the point when i labelled myself) she was worried i wasnt really bi, just kidding myself, and would do something i regret.
It didnt happen that way.
But so many 14 year old and 15 year old girls say they are bi. I find it hard to believe they all are are certain, theyre so young.. but its part of growing up, and many many girls are bi curious because they want to experiment and find out who they are, and now we can do that without being shunned, where as blokes cant always have that luxury.
Capacity
06-04-2004, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by lil_minx
But so many 14 year old and 15 year old girls say they are bi. I find it hard to believe they all are are certain, theyre so young.. but its part of growing up, and many many girls are bi curious because they want to experiment and find out who they are, and now we can do that without being shunned, where as blokes cant always have that luxury.
I agree with what you say. Bisexual women are generally accepted to a greater degree than men. I feel that some have the need to bullshit about their sexuality because they like to seem 'different' in a way that no-one can criticize; i.e. their sexuality. Because it's a well documented fact that all homophobes, racists etc are closed-minded scum, really.
Furthermore, many girls are under the influence that guys like gals who are 'open-minded', as opposed to those who know themselves.
I have no problem with Bisexual women, I just have problems believing anyone under the age of, lets say 17, when they tell me that they're bisexual.
Namaste
06-04-2004, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by lil_minx
lol
in some cases, its almost fashionable to be bisexual which can make grils curious, which was what my mum warned me about when i told her i was (this was at the point when i labelled myself) she was worried i wasnt really bi, just kidding myself, and would do something i regret.
It didnt happen that way.
But so many 14 year old and 15 year old girls say they are bi. I find it hard to believe they all are are certain, theyre so young.. but its part of growing up, and many many girls are bi curious because they want to experiment and find out who they are, and now we can do that without being shunned, where as blokes cant always have that luxury.
Hrm... I'll agree I guess. A lot of young people believe that they're bisexual because they snog their best mate, or because if they met Avril Levigne they'd snog her. Ohhh wow, how deviant! :rolleyes:
As me mate Shezz says (I think it was Shezz, over a fruit infusion in a local café) a girl is bicurious if she's never been below the belt with another woman, a truelly bisexual person has had sex with another woman and enjoyed it.
As for myself, I hate to be labelled so I call myself pansexual :p just because so few people know what it means. I think the label of bisexual or bicurious is seen as negative, like a person is doing it to be trendy or because they're promiscuous. When I've known some women who have held down and cared for both guys and gals.
Cuddilicious
06-04-2004, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by MoonRat
...a girl is bicurious if she's never been below the belt with another woman, a truelly bisexual person has had sex with another woman and enjoyed it.
What about people who claim to be straight but never had sex before?
I think it's healthy to be open minded.
Bi-Sexuality is people who can find any gender attractive. A girl could find a man more attractive than a woman but would still go with a girl. That's still classed as being bi-sexual. There's no rules.
Kermit
06-04-2004, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by lil_minx
lBut so many 14 year old and 15 year old girls say they are bi. I find it hard to believe they all are are certain, theyre so young.. but its part of growing up, and many many girls are bi curious because they want to experiment and find out who they are, and now we can do that without being shunned, where as blokes cant always have that luxury.
I think bisexuality is, in it's very nature, very uncertain- it's about experimentation, a lot of the time. Few people are 50/50 bi, so it's just a way of finding which way you lean.
Blokes don't hev the luxury of experimenting, and having fun- the line basically is "bloke or fairy" with nothing in between. Bisexual men are often seen with even more suspicion than gay men, which is very sad because a lot more men than would ever admit it probably are bi-curious at the very least.
Well all I can say is I'm bi and I know for sure. I was always scared of the truth but About a years and a half ago I just finally accepted who I was and I love it now. To me it's not about s.e.x. but about the woman or rather person because regardless of gender they are in affect still a person with feelings and a charater.
It wasn't untill I was about 16 going on 17 that I realised why I always felt pervy when looking at women. Part of it is that I have insecuraties about my body and I used to be anorexic and was always jealous of beautiful women with sensious bodies and amppel b.o.o.b.s.
I've loved the female body since, well... The little mermaid came out and I was very young. About 5 years of ages actually!!!
Yes, some people or young gothic etc. girls seem to say they are that way and most haven't had another girl/woman but I'm totally sure and happy about myself even more so in public.
It's just like having a gorgeous boyf and being proud of him in public. I had beautiful girlf's and was really proud of the in public.
~Anya
AlmightyBob
06-04-2004, 07:31 PM
heres what im thinkin.
all these internet profiles and things your reading that say all these girls are Bi....well....kinda misleading i reckon, out of all the girls i know who say theyre bi...i reckon about 4 of them really are.....so im thinkin its just people either mistaking a couple of rude thoughts about their best mate as bisexuality or maybe its just cuz all of a sudden fancying other women is a popular thing.
as for guys.....i know as many bisexual guys as i do girls....so its not that theyre not out there, its just i dont think guys publisise it as much as girls....if as many 15 year old boys were calling themselves bi as the girls do....there would be a lot more 15 year old guys with broken bones....unfair i know, but sadly thats how people work in the real world....i once got thrown out of a bar for being a "queer"...yet its ok for two girls to grope each other and stuff in the same bar.....equality? pah.
so, my point, all these apparent bisexuals...only a small amount of them are probably actually bi...and guys, well we just hide it cuz we dont like being beaten up.....ever seen a girl get beaten up for being a lesbian? point made.
lil_minx
06-04-2004, 07:44 PM
And, bisexuality isnt just being attracted to both sexes, far from that, its about having the capacity or potential to be in love with members of both sexes, and appreciate their bodies and so forth. I think somebody on here said different.
The thing that just upsets me most, is the bad name that bisexual girls have. I dont like it. I wouldnt say bisexual guys had a stigma as such, because as far as many people are concered blokes are either in black or white, straight or gay there is no grey area. And thats not a good thing.
SuzyCreamcheese
06-04-2004, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by MoonRat
As for myself, I hate to be labelled so I call myself pansexual :p just because so few people know what it means.
It means you have a big pan-handle.
Capacity
06-04-2004, 09:05 PM
Pansexual is just a term for open-minded, which is just a term for Bisexual in my closed-minded opinion.
girl with sharp teeth
06-04-2004, 10:02 PM
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Capacity
06-04-2004, 10:15 PM
I touched another boys bum by accident once. Does that count?
Namaste
06-04-2004, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by girl with sharp teeth
Surely you're labelling yourself by using the term pansexual?
I think I probably would be described as bisexual, but I don't personally think of myself like that - I'm just me, and I've slept with boys and I've slept with girls. My life plan includes marriage and kids, so it doesn't look likely that I'm going to have a serious relationship with a woman any time soon....
What I meant was that I don't like to be labelled as swinging one way or the other, as definately bisexual, straight or gay. The term pansexual, to me encompasses everything, but it's what I use personally because most people are like "Y'what?" and then leave it.
Bisexuals do tend to get a name as people who are unsure of themselves, or who're easy lays in both the gay and straight communities.
piccolo
06-04-2004, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by MoonRat
a girl is bicurious if she's never been below the belt with another woman, a truelly bisexual person has had sex with another woman and enjoyed it. I have straight and gay mates who are virgins, but they're still sure of their sexuality. That's no criteria, otherwise there are a lot of confused virgins wandering around.
i personally think that the actual act of girl-on-girl sex is percieved as more appealing that boy-on-boy sex, which might account for the number of 'bisexual' girls.
people have this stereotype of lesbian sex as gentle and caring and passionate in a very intimate way.
and people have a stereotype of gay sex as two sweaty men taking each other up the ass.
sorry for the crudeness.
Originally posted by kaffrin
i personally think that the actual act of girl-on-girl sex is percieved as more appealing that boy-on-boy sex, which might account for the number of 'bisexual' girls.
people have this stereotype of lesbian sex as gentle and caring and passionate in a very intimate way.
and people have a stereotype of gay sex as two sweaty men taking each other up the ass.
sorry for the crudeness.
So true though.
arch_angel1o1
07-04-2004, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by Capacity
I touched another boys bum by accident once. Does that count?
no i dont think that counts at all
Butterflykisses
09-04-2004, 01:58 PM
I've always viewed bi-curious as being willing to try sex with someone of your own sex, and bisexual as being willing and happy to enter into a relationship with either sex.
That's probably a total misconception but it's the view I and I'm sure many other people have. Maybe all the 14-15 year olds etc. who say they're bi are actually only bi-curious but believe you have to be straight, bi or gay, no grey area.....? Just my 2 cents....
piccolo
09-04-2004, 02:05 PM
Yes, I think you're right, a lot of people want to rush to label themselves and I do wonder if a few years down the line lots of bisexual 14 year olds will be more comfortable seeing themselves as straight. But then sexuality seems quite a fluid thing and a lot of people's orientation does change.
Kermit
09-04-2004, 10:29 PM
People are sexual, the prefix is irrelevant.
Says it all really :yes:
ryoko_rock
09-04-2004, 11:19 PM
I've snogged about 11 girls now, yet still I say I'm straight... to me it's not a big thing though. I find in my school that someone can say they've kissed another girl and nobody will blink an eyelid.
It's different for guys though...yeah, there's the whole macho thing going on!
Kermit
09-04-2004, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by ryoko_rock
It's different for guys though...yeah, there's the whole macho thing going on!
Aye, and I think that is a real shame. Boys can't experiment, and I think that does cause a lot of problems; if they kiss another boy, or give a blow-job to another boy, then it apparently means that they are gay. Which is stupid, but so it goes.
Bi girls are only tolerated because men think that they can shag them and have the girl's mate too :rolleyes:
Namaste
10-04-2004, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by piccolo
But then sexuality seems quite a fluid thing and a lot of people's orientation does change.
I think it does. I have periods where I'm attracted to women more than men, or vice versa.
Aye, and I think that is a real shame. Boys can't experiment, and I think that does cause a lot of problems; if they kiss another boy, or give a blow-job to another boy, then it apparently means that they are gay. Which is stupid, but so it goes.
I agree. Even in the rock scene where a lot of girls get off with each other, lads still get shit for batting for both teams... even if it is getting better. It seems Ok for a woman to be bi though, maybe because men get off on them going with each other. Or think that bi girls are easy and they can have a threesome.
Kermit
11-04-2004, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by MoonRat
It seems Ok for a woman to be bi though, maybe because men get off on them going with each other. Or think that bi girls are easy and they can have a threesome.
Yeah, the attitude remains that bi-sexuals are just "greedy" and out for any sex they can get. ANd if it happens to be two pretty girls, lads will definitely be interested, cos if they're bi there's a chance they'll get invited back :rolleyes:
the sole liber
11-04-2004, 09:29 PM
Heh, don't most 'bi-sexual' girls simply do this to look cool??
Or 'cos they saw Willow in Buffy be bi-sexual??:rolleyes:
wheresmyplacebo
11-04-2004, 09:43 PM
theres less stigma attached to girls with other girls than guys with guys, and also womens bodies are in general more aesthetically pleasing to anyone
and girls experimenting doesnt involve too much pentration compared to guys anyway, unless you know any girls who use fists etc :naughty:
partial kinda 'fad' proclaiming to be bi curious too, when the most open minded people dont give anything away, well from experience ;)
Kermit
11-04-2004, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
and girls experimenting doesnt involve too much pentration compared to guys anyway, unless you know any girls who use fists etc :naughty:
And that is the bigoted viewpoint kaff and I were referring to.
A lot of gay men don't like anal sex, just like a lot of straight women don't like anal sex. Kissing another boy, or giving head to another boy, would count as "experimenting" just as a girl going down on a girl would. Quite a few bi-curious men are only interested in the oral aspect, in my experience- what it feels like to give head to a boy, what it feels like to kis a boy. Penetration might come into it, but often doesn't.
Namaste
11-04-2004, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
and girls experimenting doesnt involve too much pentration compared to guys anyway, unless you know any girls who use fists etc :naughty:
Uh... how do you know? I mean you can get strap ons and sex toys that work by penetrating the woman.
partial kinda 'fad' proclaiming to be bi curious too, when the most open minded people dont give anything away, well from experience ;)
If people 'calim' to be bicurious, maybe they are. Since when was sexuality a fad? Sex is sex, simple as. And we're fortunate to live in a society where we have freedom of choice. I have mates of all different sexual orientations and they don't 'claim' to be bisexual/bicurious for a fad. They do it because they're attracted to women. And what's wrong with that? At least people can admit it these days.
Or 'cos they saw Willow in Buffy be bi-sexual??
Again, gotta disagree. Perhaps gay icons in the media encourage people to be more open about their sexuality, but I doubt people copy them for the sake of being 'cool'. I mean (assuming you're straught) would it bother you to kiss a guy? Would ya do it to be 'cool'?
Pisses me off, the whole 'you just copy Willow' idea. That's why I hate people calling me 'bisexual', because of all the negative labels that go with it...
wheresmyplacebo
12-04-2004, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by Kermit
And that is the bigoted viewpoint kaff and I were referring to.
A lot of gay men don't like anal sex, just like a lot of straight women don't like anal sex. Kissing another boy, or giving head to another boy, would count as "experimenting" just as a girl going down on a girl would. Quite a few bi-curious men are only interested in the oral aspect, in my experience- what it feels like to give head to a boy, what it feels like to kis a boy. Penetration might come into it, but often doesn't.
i werent saying it all true i know its not, a lot fomy gay friends dont, but i dont tend to count kissing same sex as experimenting, as kissing is only really good, IMO, when it with someone you care about
but.... girl going down on another is a bit different to a guy going down on the other since the mouth is being penetrated IMO
but that my own personal opinion but i just trying to get across point theres less stigma attached to it with girls
wheresmyplacebo
12-04-2004, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by MoonRat
Uh... how do you know? I mean you can get strap ons and sex toys that work by penetrating the woman.
If people 'calim' to be bicurious, maybe they are. Since when was sexuality a fad? Sex is sex, simple as. And we're fortunate to live in a society where we have freedom of choice. I have mates of all different sexual orientations and they don't 'claim' to be bisexual/bicurious for a fad. They do it because they're attracted to women. And what's wrong with that? At least people can admit it these days.
Again, gotta disagree. Perhaps gay icons in the media encourage people to be more open about their sexuality, but I doubt people copy them for the sake of being 'cool'. I mean (assuming you're straught) would it bother you to kiss a guy? Would ya do it to be 'cool'?
hey im sorry i offended you or anyone else okay? i didnt mean it in a bad way to everyone, and ive seen people do worse fings to seem cool, like i know a few girls who slept with a guy to impress their mates so dont knock me
and yes i must say people are very open minded these days, i am too but it seems i just dont find too many girls sexy so it more a case of silly pickiness than not liking girls... and i not yet met or seen a single guy i find attractive/sexy/have feelings for, but in end of day you like who you like
but a lot of people define themselves as bi when they bi curious because not sure if they like the same sex as well or like kissing their mates drunk but who aint done that! :rolleyes: lol
i just think noones completly straight or gay just some random point in between
Iknowyourmum
13-04-2004, 11:26 AM
Makes me wonder what would us normal red blooded males be lke if it was entirly acceptable even encouraged to snog a bloke in our teenage years, would most off us have done it, you might think so look at the ancient Greeks or American prisons theres a lot of homosexuality going on there amungst people most of whome are straight, Is it all contitioning that makes the thought of snogging a bloke extreamly distastfull to say the least.
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