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morrocan roll
01-02-2004, 06:43 PM
having read whowheres views on homeless people ...people who smoke pot and so on and his eagerness to prosecute ...now being a part time cop ...i have changed my views about having our streets policed by such unprepared wallies!
whowhere hasn't even started the job yet and he talks about misstreating the homeless ...capturing and prosecuting pot smokers ...surly the last thing we want is power mad ignorants like this on our streets.
i fear for whowheres safety!
Yerascrote
01-02-2004, 07:09 PM
somehow the idea of a part time cop doesn't have the same authority of a real cop, if whowhere came up and told me to put a joint out i'd head butt him, sorry but thats the reality.
Also, these part time cops could have a strong hatred for certain people of our commnity and will target these specifically, i say drop this stupid idea
BeckyBoo
01-02-2004, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by turlough
if whowhere came up and told me to put a joint out i'd head butt him, sorry but thats the reality.
and its also reality that your gonna get nicked for doing that, your choice i suppose.
Wether you like his views or not he has a job to do. Also the power thing could go to his head, having a bit of authority and stuff like that but lets face it after a couple of months when he is sick of the paperwork i dont think he will be that keen on nicking everyone :D
The Doc
01-02-2004, 07:33 PM
Well I'm sure there are full time policemen/women who are just as narrow minded as to what their priorities are. I'm sure there are policemen who look forward to nicking blacks, gay people, pot smokers, the homeless, drunks. Everyone is prejudiced in one way and another. I think people like Whowhere ( not a personal attack, but you are the person who was brought up) could be sorted out if they were actually assigned jobs, instead of " go out and keep the peace."
Skive
01-02-2004, 08:05 PM
I've had my share of run ins the the old bill and in my experience hobby bobbies are just in it for the power trip. The most unreasonable, least street wise coppers out there are the part time ones. Generally I hgave repect for the police (this coming form someone that's seen his fair share of trouble) but all of the part timers I've ever met have been complete C*nts.
IMO
morrocan roll
01-02-2004, 08:20 PM
it's going to be a serious reality shock for the poor guy when he sees one of his colleagues snort a line of coke ...or one of them takes only some of someones weed off them ...for a smoke later.
while these playtime policemen are licienced to harrass 14 yr olds for having a spliff ...how are they going to deal with 1/2 a dozen big fuck off hells angels having a toke?
no propper training ...obviously little understanding of the bigger picture and yet they are given authority and power. it can't work for long cos it cannot be right.
Braineater
01-02-2004, 08:43 PM
Bulls faeces! :) What we need are full time coppers on the beat not some title added to their name to make wrongdooers feel more comfortable.
A major overhall of policing in the country and the law in general is necessary to cut crime. Not softly softly approaches.
morrocan roll
01-02-2004, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by Braineater
A major overhall of policing in the country and the law in general is necessary to cut crime. Not softly softly approaches. i agree and i believe jail should be tough. mostly jail is very tough.
i think we'd dissagree about what is softly softly though.
Whowhere
01-02-2004, 10:49 PM
Where did I say about mistreating the homeless exactly?
I hate drugs because like I just wrote this country is going to hell because of them.
Yes, I'll have power, hopefully the power to make a difference to the community I'll be based in. I didn't get into the job for the power, if I wanted real power I'd join the military, or get a job making the policies, not just trying to enforce them.
I'm not looking forward to nicking blacks, gays or drug users, I'm not looking forward to arresting anybody. For you to suggest that I may be racist is fucking typical isn't it. "He's in the police, he must hate blacks".
And as for getting a head butt, you can try, I've got just as much authority as a regular cop and as much training, difference being I'll be on the streets more often taking care of the things that annoy the MAJORITY of the population. Because at the end of the day that's what it boils down to. The MAJORITY hate the drugs, they hate the crime associated with it and want to see the criminals caught.
morrocan roll
01-02-2004, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by Whowhere
Where did I say about mistreating the homeless exactly?
I hate drugs because like I just wrote this country is going to hell because of them.
Yes, I'll have power, hopefully the power to make a difference to the community I'll be based in. I didn't get into the job for the power, if I wanted real power I'd join the military, or get a job making the policies, not just trying to enforce them.
I'm not looking forward to nicking blacks, gays or drug users, I'm not looking forward to arresting anybody. For you to suggest that I may be racist is fucking typical isn't it. "He's in the police, he must hate blacks".
And as for getting a head butt, you can try, I've got just as much authority as a regular cop and as much training, difference being I'll be on the streets more often taking care of the things that annoy the MAJORITY of the population. Because at the end of the day that's what it boils down to. The MAJORITY hate the drugs, they hate the crime associated with it and want to see the criminals caught. you can count me out of accusing you of being a racist for a start ...or threatening to head butt you!
if you could be bothered to educate yourself about the truth you would be doing yourself and your fellow citezens a big favour.
read the book i reccomended and tell me what difference you can possibly hope to make with your attitude of ...'they'll be sorry ...i'll nick 'em all". edited to add ...
do you think aladin is going to become a dribbling wrteck? do you think i already am one ...having smoked this stuff for 36yrs?
BeckyBoo
01-02-2004, 11:13 PM
Im all for having 'part time'coppers on the beat. Having some presence will make normal people like myself feel a bit safer.
Whowhere Im not saying you will love the power but being new in the job I personally feel that the first time you nick people you will get a buzz. After a while it will wear off, but for anyone new in the job I feel they all will probably react the same way.
morrocan roll
01-02-2004, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by BeckyBoo
Having some presence will make normal people like myself feel a bit safer.
your normal! we're doomed i tell ya ...doomed.
BeckyBoo
01-02-2004, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by morrocan roll
your normal! we're doomed i tell ya ...doomed.
lol, well half normal :p
Blagsta
01-02-2004, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by Whowhere
I hate drugs because like I just wrote this country is going to hell because of them.
What a well thought out opinion. Bet your mum's proud of you.
morrocan roll
01-02-2004, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by Blagsta
What a well thought out opinion. Bet your mum's proud of you. and here was me thinking the country was going to hell through shit lying politicians and dodgy fucking business men ...lack of investment etc etc.
Aladdin
02-02-2004, 12:15 AM
Nah... it's all those evil people who smoke joints who are to blame.
morrocan roll
02-02-2004, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by Aladdin
Nah... it's all those evil people who smoke joints who are to blame. you just qualified to hand out on the spot fines and prosecute people for ...well for whatever you dissagree with!
Namaste
02-02-2004, 12:26 AM
Actually I don't trust the police in the slightest and apart from the odd joint I don't really break the law. Some of them are pricks, seriously... but I've met about two who were sound.
Yerascrote
02-02-2004, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by Whowhere
Where did I say about mistreating the homeless exactly?
I hate drugs because like I just wrote this country is going to hell because of them.
Yes, I'll have power, hopefully the power to make a difference to the community I'll be based in. I didn't get into the job for the power, if I wanted real power I'd join the military, or get a job making the policies, not just trying to enforce them.
I'm not looking forward to nicking blacks, gays or drug users, I'm not looking forward to arresting anybody. For you to suggest that I may be racist is fucking typical isn't it. "He's in the police, he must hate blacks".
And as for getting a head butt, you can try, I've got just as much authority as a regular cop and as much training, difference being I'll be on the streets more often taking care of the things that annoy the MAJORITY of the population. Because at the end of the day that's what it boils down to. The MAJORITY hate the drugs, they hate the crime associated with it and want to see the criminals caught.
i didn't mean you specifically whowhere i meant anyone of the part time cop title, so whowhere, your walking down the estate and you see 4 teens sitting having a smoke of a joint minding their own business, would you go over and tell them to put it out and if you would, why mite i ask? but i'm sure it's ok if 4 20 yr olds come out of the pub pissed to high heaven shouting and singing because the MAJORITY of people drink and it's legal,
Whowhere
02-02-2004, 07:30 AM
Originally posted by turlough
why mite i ask?
BECAUSE IT'S ILLEGAL. I'm not about to question the whys and the buts, that's not my job, that's the job of the courts. I'd have every right to ask them to stop, as wouldn anybody. I'd question why they needed to do it outside in full view anyway, instead of doing it in the privacy of their own homes. If they're outside, flouting the law then that's their problem, but they make it my problem too.
As for the drunkards, I'd have the power to sort them out as well. The whole point of my job is to cut out anti-social behaviour. It doesn't matter if the teens smoking a joint think they are harmless, if the local residents think they aren't then they are being anti-social.
I don't know about you, but most people I've spoken to agree that the sight of a gang of teens standing outside a shop is intimidating. They may be harmless, but their presence disrupts the lives of the MAJORITY who live there.
And Blagsta, everyone is entitled to their opinion, you've seen for yourself that drugs ruin lives but you still continue to advocate them. That's your opinion.
TBH I don't give a shit about the users as long as they keep themselves to themselves, if they do it at home or out of the public eye then who gives a toss right? I only care when they need to find the money from somewhere, and usually from someone innocent.
I object to drugs when you get turf wars in major cities. About 2 people are shot in a city alone every week, because of drugs.
I object to drugs because on the whole the majority of drug users DONT keep themselves to themselves, they let their addiction control them and not the other way round.
dantheman
02-02-2004, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by turlough
somehow the idea of a part time cop doesn't have the same authority of a real cop, if whowhere came up and told me to put a joint out i'd head butt him, sorry but thats the reality.
oooo you're 'ard.
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Seriously I cannot believe how naive people are. Like Whowhere said, the police enforce the law, they don't make it. If their are grey areas with smoking a joint, it's the system's fault.
Also what gets on my tits is people who moan about drug laws.
Oh you bad Mr Policeman for stealing that 14 year olds's spliff, how could
you, that's going to ruin his evening. I got pissed and smoked spliffs and
if back then I'd have got my collar felt it would have been my own bloody fault.
Cracking down on anti-social behaviour is the plan and a good one it is.
Youths make a lot of people scared to walk the streets.
Oooo let's never arrest anyone. let's have no laws, promote drugs, they're good for you!
Anyone who thinks that all Police are on a power trip should stop stereotyping, just because they had a bad experience, or their mate did.
When I finally get in, I'm not planning on trying to win the championship league of arrests, minor arrests don't do anyone any favours, with the amount
of paperwork their is.
People should just shut up and look at the good side, our police force
ranks among the best in the world. Stop taking them for granted.
Blagsta
02-02-2004, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by Whowhere
And Blagsta, everyone is entitled to their opinion, you've seen for yourself that drugs ruin lives but you still continue to advocate them.
Where do I advocate drugs? What I advocate is education and knowledge. Something which you need quite badly by the looks of it.
Blagsta
02-02-2004, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by Whowhere
I object to drugs when you get turf wars in major cities. About 2 people are shot in Nottingham in St Anns alone every week, because of drugs.
No, because of prohibition.
Kermit
02-02-2004, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by Blagsta
What a well thought out opinion. Bet your mum's proud of you.
So the smack addicts enhance the local landscape of Edinburgh then, I suppose?
Kermit
02-02-2004, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by Whowhere
BECAUSE IT'S ILLEGAL. I'm not about to question the whys and the buts, that's not my job, that's the job of the courts.
I think that's the first time I've ever agreed with Whowhere :eek2:
The police are paid to uphold the law, if it's a stupid law or one you don't agree with then you should be petitioning Government to change it, not slagging off the police for doing their job properly.
Kermit
02-02-2004, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by turlough
somehow the idea of a part time cop doesn't have the same authority of a real cop, if whowhere came up and told me to put a joint out i'd head butt him, sorry but thats the reality.
Also, these part time cops could have a strong hatred for certain people of our commnity and will target these specifically, i say drop this stupid idea
You can't tell the difference between Special Constables and "real cops". They wear the same uniform, the badge is slightly different.
Oh, and they have the same authority so if you head-butt one of them there's a strong chance you'll accidentally fall over onto your face from the back of the van at the cop shop.
Blagsta
02-02-2004, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Kermit
So the smack addicts enhance the local landscape of Edinburgh then, I suppose?
Pardon? :confused:
Blagsta
02-02-2004, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by Kermit
I think that's the first time I've ever agreed with Whowhere :eek2:
The police are paid to uphold the law, if it's a stupid law or one you don't agree with then you should be petitioning Government to change it, not slagging off the police for doing their job properly.
The police turn a blind eye to crimes all the time. Its called using disgression.
Kermit
02-02-2004, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Blagsta
The police turn a blind eye to crimes all the time. Its called using disgression.
I don't think they turn a blind eye so much as they don't report everything they see- if a kid smoking some weed puts it out when a copper asks then nothing more will be said about it. I don't even think Whowhere would go to the trouble of booking a kid having a toke:p
Oh, and it's discretion:)
Kermit
02-02-2004, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by Blagsta
No, because of prohibition.
So because people kill each other about an illegal act then that act should become legal?
Please explain to me how that works...
Blagsta
02-02-2004, 11:39 AM
Pardon? :confused:
Not a valid comparison really.
Blagsta
02-02-2004, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by Kermit
I don't think they turn a blind eye so much as they don't report everything they see- if a kid smoking some weed puts it out when a copper asks then nothing more will be said about it. I don't even think Whowhere would go to the trouble of booking a kid having a toke:p
Oh, and it's discretion:)
They do turn a blind eye to lots of things if they are minor and not worth the paper work.
Aladdin
02-02-2004, 11:40 AM
Is there a single person in Britain who has NEVER broken the law once in their lives? I very much doubt it. Laws are laws right? So anyone who's ever dropped a piece of paper on the pavement instead of binning it; anyone who breaks the speed limit by 1mpg should be immediately stopped and fine; anyone who's ever crossed the road where they shouldn't or without waiting for the Green Man... all of those people- i.e.- the entire population of Great Britain- should be regularly arrested and/or fined by our law-upholding police.
No, of course not. There are no end of reasons why this would be a catastrophe. That's why common sense is needed in the police and elsewhere. Common sense tells us that you simply cannot fine someone who is doing 1mph over the limit. And common sense should tell the police that cannabis consumption is accepted by a majority of people in this country (yes Whowhere, accepted) and that there are great numbers of people who smoke weed; people who are decent, hard-working, law-abiding citizens. This gun-ho attitude of "if they smoke they're breaking the law and thus should be arrested" is the biggest load of fucking bollocks the world has ever seen. It is very worrying that people who form part of our police force might apply such deluded approach in their work.
Blagsta
02-02-2004, 11:41 AM
A short explanation of the arguments for and against prohibition.
http://www.drugscope.org.uk/druginfo/drugsearch/faq_template.asp?file=\wip\11\1\2\legalise.html
Yerascrote
02-02-2004, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by Aladdin
Is there a single person in Britain who has NEVER broken the law once in their lives? I very much doubt it. Laws are laws right? So anyone who's ever dropped a piece of paper on the pavement instead of binning it; anyone who breaks the speed limit by 1mpg should be immediately stopped and fine; anyone who's ever crossed the road where they shouldn't or without waiting for the Green Man... all of those people- i.e.- the entire population of Great Britain- should be regularly arrested and/or fined by our law-upholding police.
No, of course not. There are no end of reasons why this would be a catastrophe. That's why common sense is needed in the police and elsewhere. Common sense tells us that you simply cannot fine someone who is doing 1mph over the limit. And common sense should tell the police that cannabis consumption is accepted by a majority of people in this country (yes Whowhere, accepted) and that there are great numbers of people who smoke weed; people who are decent, hard-working, law-abiding citizens. This gun-ho attitude of "if they smoke they're breaking the law and thus should be arrested" is the biggest load of fucking bollocks the world has ever seen. It is very worrying that people who form part of our police force might apply such deluded approach in their work.
NODS IN AGREEMENT
Whowhere
02-02-2004, 04:32 PM
Yes, unofficially I do have powers of discretion. The official police line is that there is no such thing. If you see someone breaking the law, you arrest them, simple as.
But, we're told to use common sense. If I see someone walking into his house smoking a spliff then i won't bother. If I see a group of youths sitting outside a shop smoking then I will stop them. Most people would call that a pretty good common sense approach, wouldn't you say.
If I see a few kids walking into their house with a couple of 6 packs, for all I know they have just got it from their next door neighbour and will leave it at that, I may suggest to them that they get the parents to do it next time.
If I see a group of kids hanging around outside an off licence whilst their 18 year old mate goes inside and buys them booze then that's an entirely different matter.
They aren't shot because it's illegal Blagsta, they are shot because they have infringed on the local's turf, or they are undercutting prices or a million other reasons. Making it legal won't change anything, you'll just get bloody aggresive price matching policies.
I'm not out to get anybody, what i will do is make the lives of those who annoy, intimidate and harrass good honest people a bleeding misery. I'll fine them, I'll arrest them, I'll make their lives hell. Why? Because for too long the criminal element have been plodding along in the belief that they are above the law. Are orders are to hit them where it hurts, their pockets. I'll have the powers to seize goods, and vehicles whilst regular cops also have the power to seize money and posessions.
Many of you are right, prison doesn't deter, taxing them to hell will. When young kids realise that perhaps drug dealing isn't as lucrative as they thought maybe things will change.
Blagsta
02-02-2004, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Whowhere
They aren't shot because it's illegal Blagsta, they are shot because they have infringed on the local's turf, or they are undercutting prices or a million other reasons. Making it legal won't change anything, you'll just get bloody aggresive price matching policies.
Errrr, hello? Why don't you try reading and engaging with the argument? Do brewery sales reps kill each other in turf wars? No. You know why? Because its legal and the market is properly regulated. But during prohibtion in America people killed each other over alcohol supply. Geddit now?
Whowhere
02-02-2004, 05:04 PM
So you think the way forward is to legalise everything? To turn the UK into some sort of drug paradise? We already have enough trouble with alcohol and that's legal without making everything else legal as well.
TBH there isn't any point in having the argument because any government that goes so blatantly against the majority view by doing something like that wouldn't last long unless it was in a country like Antarctica.
You've seen the angst and suffering of the addicted and their families surely. Why is it a good idea to legalise it? you'll still have the crime associated with it.
Whowhere
02-02-2004, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Blagsta
Where do I advocate drugs?
in the other thread you seem all for the legalisation of drugs. Which is it to be?
Yerascrote
02-02-2004, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by Whowhere
You've seen the angst and suffering of the addicted and their families surely. Why is it a good idea to legalise it? you'll still have the crime associated with it.
i know whole families whose lives are destroyed by alcohol but the government does feck all to solve this problem, the only crimes i know with drugs are with drug dealers who fight over territory etc and if drugs were legalised and controlled properly there would be no drug dealers in the first plce, other crimes associated with drugs are because of heroin and crack addicts robbing to pay for their habit, if the government gave them free heroin and help in rehabilitation centres to help them ween off it then the world would be a better place and we wouldn't need people like you on our streets, putting people in prison isn't the only way to solve acrime, in fact, it's one of the worst
Blagsta
02-02-2004, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by Whowhere
in the other thread you seem all for the legalisation of drugs. Which is it to be?
Please go here www.dictionary.com and educate yourself.
Being in favour of legalising drugs and advocating drugs are two different things.
Blagsta
02-02-2004, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by Whowhere
So you think the way forward is to legalise everything? To turn the UK into some sort of drug paradise? We already have enough trouble with alcohol and that's legal without making everything else legal as well.
TBH there isn't any point in having the argument because any government that goes so blatantly against the majority view by doing something like that wouldn't last long unless it was in a country like Antarctica.
You've seen the angst and suffering of the addicted and their families surely. Why is it a good idea to legalise it? you'll still have the crime associated with it.
The thing is that the country is awash with drugs anyway. Ecstasy is cheaper than beer, crack is cheaper than whisky.
And please try and engage with the argument - exactly how will we "still have the crime associated with it" if its legal? :confused:
There would also be far fewer health problems associated with drug use if the market was properly regulated. Please tell me how it wouldn't be.
morrocan roll
02-02-2004, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by Whowhere
But, we're told to use common sense. you have to actualy be told to use common sense? that is worrying and ...you have changed your tune completely! before it was about you being out to get them and them being sorry. turning the discussion into one about anti social behaviour such as gangs of youths terrorising people outside shops will get you some support though ...even mine.
what i find worrying is young blokes like you going out onto the streets so ill equipped for reality.
your bosses ...the chief constavbles association has been pushing the government for a number of years to legalise drugs ...therefore getting the stuff under control.
at the moment it is totaly out of control and will spiral ever further in that direction until someone has the balls and the ...common sense ...to make some serious changes. being illegal has proved to be disastorous. in the last four years 250 people have been shot in manchester over drug turf ...fuck me thats war not crime!
as long as society shuns its responsibility to take control of this stuff and these situations by stating over and over ...it's illegal ...things will only get worse and yes whowhere ...drug related crime will destroy our way of life.
but no ...lets keep the second biggest industry on planet earth in the hands of tax free gangsters ...makes sense to some apparently.
by the way ...the biggest business in canada is now cannabis production ...the authorities are happy with it. society hasn't after all collapsed because of this...
Whowhere
03-02-2004, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Blagsta
The thing is that the country is awash with drugs anyway. Ecstasy is cheaper than beer, crack is cheaper than whisky.
And please try and engage with the argument - exactly how will we "still have the crime associated with it" if its legal? :confused:
There would also be far fewer health problems associated with drug use if the market was properly regulated. Please tell me how it wouldn't be.
Last time I heard it cost about £8 a hit for crack and £5-6 for a tablet, so whatever booze you're drinking it must be fucking strong, or aged 25 years.
Yes, alcohol is prevalent, and it is something the police hate. Night clubs in a city are going to have start paying us to police the mess they make, if they don't pay they get shut down. I personally like the arrangement, I don't go clubbing anymore because the clubs are full of people who are too pissed to realise that threatening to glass somebody might mean they end up on the floor bleeding.
I'm sure you would agree that alcohol is a drug, you've seen the problems it causes. What happens to people who are addicted to heroin, but they can't get to it. The ones I've met and seen on CCTV footage turn violent and uncontrollable. What happens to people who have a bad hit on ecstasy or speed? They go mad. Legalising yet another drug isn't the answer.
As for the dealers, they thrive on being rich and poweful. Do you think they'd simply let the government take their buisness away from them without a fight? No, I didn't think so, legalising drugs would just turn the drug lords somewhere else. Either to other avenues, or to the creation of different drugs that aren't legal or they will carry on selling poor quality goods and undercut the government prices. Canada has the second biggest cannabis production because it lost the fight, it gave in to the dealers, just let them get on with it. I can bet you that those producers of cannabis will most certainly have their hands in something else.
Mr Roll, et al. I'm not saying I am going to persecute everyone i see, I will give people leeway. I'm not going to raid people's houses in search of weed, or come down on people for making mistakes. I'm going to be hard on the people who piss everyone off. The troublemakers, the vandals, the groups of yobs that hang around on parks, the people that really concern you.
Everyone says they dont like how everyone seems to be getting shot these days, when in actual fact all they are concerned with is the bloke who keeps letting his dogs shit all over their driveway.
morrocan roll
03-02-2004, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by Whowhere
Canada has the second biggest cannabis production because it lost the fight, it gave in to the dealers, just let them get on with it. I can bet you that those producers of cannabis will most certainly have their hands in something else.
check the facts ...the cannabis growers of canada are basicaly farmers and everyday folk. everyone has been amazed that it hasn't been taken over by a big drug cartel. but as the canadian government stated to the mad americans next door ...theres no room for the cartels when ordinary everyday people are growing it freely in such abundance.
it has now outstripped forrestry, conventional agriculture and engineering ...previously canadas main earners ...as the biggest earner the country has. is canadian society suddenly becoming violent like their nieghbours? no. has crime rocketed? no. has the health service and mental health authorities been swamped with sick and insane people? no.
why does the chief constables association want full legalisation of cannabis whowhere? cos their stupid ...cos they don't know the facts? answer me.
Blagsta
03-02-2004, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by Whowhere
Last time I heard it cost about £8 a hit for crack and £5-6 for a tablet, so whatever booze you're drinking it must be fucking strong, or aged 25 years.
Just goes to show how out of touch you are then. Typical police really.
Pills cost £1 - £5, crack can be got for a fiver.
The rest of your post just shows how unintelligent, naive and unwilling to engage in debate you are. Again, typical police.
morrocan roll
03-02-2004, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Blagsta
Just goes to show how out of touch you are then. Typical police really.
Pills cost £1 - £5, crack can be got for a fiver.
The rest of your post just shows how unintelligent, naive and unwilling to engage in debate you are. Again, typical police. i have done my best to provide facts and supply some historical information about drugs. i have talked of personal experience and knowledge. the rest of you have submitted your experiences and knowledge but for what? he never answers any questions he never provides any information he just keeps repeating mindless shite.
i'd make mince meat of this guy in a court of law and be declared not guilty when blatantly guilty ...have done it before with coppers of this mindset.
he knows absolutely nothing and is incapable of learning.
what you going to do whowhere when you see your colleaguse rolling a spliff and snorting a line of coke and then watching them get on with the job? i've asked before he won't answer. maybe he just cannot comrehend that there are a great deal of coppers who participate in such diabolical doings.
...and coppers are renowned for sticking together. grass 'em up and your fucking meat pal!
Whowhere
03-02-2004, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by Blagsta
Just goes to show how out of touch you are then. Typical police really.
Pills cost £1 - £5, crack can be got for a fiver.
The rest of your post just shows how unintelligent, naive and unwilling to engage in debate you are. Again, typical police.
LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION.
All depends how much of something there is doesn't it. Supply and demand.
Prices I've quoted have come from users in a city. You can't moan if they are different somewhere else can you.
As for the Canada thing, fine, I'll admit defeat on that one. You see what happens if you try and remove a druge dealers lucrative heroin or cocaine supply.
Blagsta
03-02-2004, 06:00 PM
You're full of shit. Those prices will be the same in Nottingham. They're the same in Birmingham, they're the same in any city.
morrocan roll
03-02-2004, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by Whowhere
As for the Canada thing, fine, I'll admit defeat on that one. You see what happens if you try and remove a druge dealers lucrative heroin or cocaine supply. not sure i understand this at all whowhere.
Yerascrote
03-02-2004, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by Whowhere
LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION.
All depends how much of something there is doesn't it. Supply and demand.
Prices I've quoted have come from users in Nottingham. You can't moan if they are different somewhere else can you.
please shut up you imbosile, it's hardly as if there's only one dealer in nottingham with 500,000 customers, pills will cost no more than a fiver no matter where u are, unless you are a stupid person who doesn't have a clue about drugs, oh, you fit that description. Why are you joining this part time cop thingy anyway, do you think you are gonna gain more respect or something, or maybe you do feel so much about the problems in our society that you have to act (which i doubt very much)
Digital-Emotion
03-02-2004, 06:22 PM
i`d guess his had relations in the police force which is why he is so into it.
That or his been watching too much cops and police camera action!
morrocan roll
03-02-2004, 08:01 PM
wants to be dirty harry and clean up this town ...
Digital-Emotion
03-02-2004, 08:07 PM
*pictures whowhere saying to a potential prisoner*
"is that cannabis in your pocket? i may arrest you right now.... do ya feel lucky? do ya PUNK!"
Whowhere
06-02-2004, 07:05 AM
Originally posted by turlough
please shut up you imbosile, it's hardly as if there's only one dealer in nottingham with 500,000 customers, pills will cost no more than a fiver no matter where u are, unless you are a stupid person who doesn't have a clue about drugs, oh, you fit that description. Why are you joining this part time cop thingy anyway, do you think you are gonna gain more respect or something, or maybe you do feel so much about the problems in our society that you have to act (which i doubt very much)
And how would you know that all the way from where you are now eh?
Are you an expert on drug matters in the greater Nottingham area? Bullshit.
Where did I say I believed the figures? All I've said is what I've been told. I have been told the current prices, as they are from police officers who have been told by drug users and from police officers on under cover work.
As for joining the part time cop thingy as you call it, I've joined because unlike you and your drunken, drugged up, headbutting friends I want to help the community. Like I said before I won't be arresting people left right and centre, I don't want to do that. You can't blame me because you aspire to do nothing more with your life than get get high and headbutt cops.
Although methinks that if you tried it where you are you may get shot.
"But I thought his green helmet made him a policeman".
mr Roll, I said I'll gracoiusly admit you are right on the Canadian cannabis thing. However i'd like to see what happens if you try and remove the rights to a lucrative drug supply from the big time dealers.
dantheman
06-02-2004, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by Whowhere
As for joining the part time cop thingy as you call it, I've joined because unlike you and your drunken, drugged up, headbutting friends I want to help the community. Like I said before I won't be arresting people left right and centre, I don't want to do that. You can't blame me because you aspire to do nothing more with your life than get get high and headbutt cops.
Although methinks that if you tried it where you are you may get shot.
"But I thought his green helmet made him a policeman".
Exactly, Turlough, prime example of someone going nowhere in life who choses to play the big man and slag off everyone and everything out of jealously.
Oooo let's have a go at the police, such a rebel. :rolleyes:
In my experience, the majority of people who have a go at police are criminals.
I have never had any bad experiences with cops and that's because I know that you can have a good time without being a yob. whowhere didn't join up to get on a power trip and that's not my reason for joining the Met, however I can tell you it will be a pleasure locking up the twats that deserve it.
Blagsta
06-02-2004, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by dantheman
In my experience, the majority of people who have a go at police are criminals.
:rolleyes:
dantheman
06-02-2004, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by Blagsta
:rolleyes:
you can :rolleyes: all you like but it's true, I'm not saying that they're all Fred West but usually have broken the law to some extent and that's why they're whinging.
Blagsta
06-02-2004, 12:22 PM
Bollocks. In my experience, people hate the police because they can be right c.unts. I've been falsely arrested and imprisoned and lied about in court by the police. I've been thrown downstairs by the police, seen friends beaten up etc. And when I have needed them, they haven't given a fuck, like when I got mugged or there was a massive fight in a pub in Brum or when a friend of mine was getting sexually assualted on an anti-bloodsports demo by a huntsman. They were too busy eating their fucking sandwiches.
Fuck 'em. :mad: :mad:
Blagsta
06-02-2004, 12:31 PM
A lot of people also still have bitter memories over the miners strike, Wapping, the beanfield etc.
morrocan roll
06-02-2004, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by dantheman
I can tell you it will be a pleasure locking up the twats that deserve it. i wouldn't last five minutes as a copper to be honest ...i would not be able to hold back frpom giving some of them a serious kicking!
whoewhere ...we took alcohol back from capone and his kind ...they had earned fabulous fortunes which they then used to build lasvegas and invest in the legit. the small time guys on the payroll either ended up in jail for something else or actual went out and got a job.
we can take it back ...and the killing and bloodshed will stop along with a lot of the other missery.
what pisses me off about addiction WW is that it doesn't actualy do very much harm to the addict if that addict is flush financialy. but when addiction comes down to the poor ...thats when society as a whole suffer through the crime etc. thats when whole areas fall into dispairing decline.
dantheman
06-02-2004, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by Blagsta
Bollocks. In my experience, people hate the police because they can be right c.unts. I've been falsely arrested and imprisoned and lied about in court by the police. I've been thrown downstairs by the police, seen friends beaten up etc. And when I have needed them, they haven't given a fuck, like when I got mugged or there was a massive fight in a pub in Brum or when a friend of mine was getting sexually assualted on an anti-bloodsports demo by a huntsman. They were too busy eating their fucking sandwiches.
Fuck 'em. :mad: :mad:
Stereotyping are we? every profession has it's 'c.unts' just because you've had a bad experience doesn't make all coppers bad. I'm convinced that most police do a good job and that's enough for me.
morrocan roll
06-02-2004, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by dantheman
Stereotyping are we? every profession has it's 'c.unts' just because you've had a bad experience doesn't make all coppers bad. I'm convinced that most police do a good job and that's enough for me. i'm convinced that most coppers do a good job as well ...
BeckyBoo
06-02-2004, 02:33 PM
I cant beleive some of the pure crap coming out in this thread.
Police do a bloody hard job, they deal with pissheads on a daily basis, they get shouted at with abuse by the likes of some here. For gods sake just cos you have had a bad experience with the police you cant give them all a bad name.
There are good and bad in any profession.
and Blagsta im not supprised you have been arrested because you do seem to have an attitude problem. Start ranting on at police officers the way you come across here sometimes and I can see why you got arrested.
BeckyBoo
06-02-2004, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by Blagsta
Just goes to show how out of touch you are then. Typical police really.
Pills cost £1 - £5, crack can be got for a fiver.
The rest of your post just shows how unintelligent, naive and unwilling to engage in debate you are. Again, typical police.
What the fuck ???
Why is it because someone does not agree with what you say you can start labelling them unintelligent, naive etc ?
Whowhere
06-02-2004, 04:08 PM
http://vbulletin.thesite.org.uk/showthread.php?s=&postid=882995#post882995
See my post in the other thread about my solution for drugs....I hope it might actually make some sort of sense and appear fairly enlightened. I know someone will complain, but hey, what can you do.
Blagsta,
When you were mugged, what did you expect them to do? I was mugged a few years ago, I didn't expect them to do anything, because when you're dealing with a city with over a million inhabitants, finding one person is nigh on impossible. And I don't blame them for it at all. They did their best, they took me through the photos of known offenders but he wasn't there.
It's all down to different situations, as for the sexual assault thing, who do you think they'll believe? If you were called to a protest rally where a girl who HATES rich huntsman cried rape, what would you do? If it had happened somewhere else in another situation then maybe they would have, but when they have no real hope of getting any evidence, and no real hope of winning the case why bother, especially when that girl hates the system anyway. Harsh, but true. If you give the police respect, they'll respect you back.
Blagsta
06-02-2004, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by BeckyBoo
What the fuck ???
Why is it because someone does not agree with what you say you can start labelling them unintelligent, naive etc ?
Read the rest of the thread. ww is saying that he knows about drugs, the drug scene, what goes on at street level etc, when with every post he shows that he blatantly doesn't.
Blagsta
06-02-2004, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by dantheman
Stereotyping are we? every profession has it's 'c.unts' just because you've had a bad experience doesn't make all coppers bad. I'm convinced that most police do a good job and that's enough for me.
Just answering your stereotype of "In my experience, the majority of people who have a go at police are criminals."
Blagsta
06-02-2004, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by BeckyBoo
and Blagsta im not supprised you have been arrested because you do seem to have an attitude problem. Start ranting on at police officers the way you come across here sometimes and I can see why you got arrested.
So sitting quietly in a van minding my own business is cause for arrest is it? Errrrr....OK.
As I've said before Becky - you are well meaning but naive. Unless you've experienced these things, you don't know.
Blagsta
06-02-2004, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by Whowhere
Blagsta,
When you were mugged, what did you expect them to do?
I expected them to chase after them. I flagged a police car down 2 minutes after being mugged. They could easily have caught them, but they "had more important things to do" apparently.
I know that not all police are bad, but when you encounter attitudes like that...
Blagsta
06-02-2004, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Whowhere
It's all down to different situations, as for the sexual assault thing, who do you think they'll believe? If you were called to a protest rally where a girl who HATES rich huntsman cried rape, what would you do? If it had happened somewhere else in another situation then maybe they would have, but when they have no real hope of getting any evidence, and no real hope of winning the case why bother, especially when that girl hates the system anyway. Harsh, but true. If you give the police respect, they'll respect you back.
Bollocks. They knew what was going on. They watched while we got the shit kicked out of us, and they laughed.
In situations like that, the police are always on the side of the hunt. At the end of the day, the police are there to protect property owners and the rich. History show us this over and over again. Yes, some people join the police for good reasons, but at the end of the day, they have to follow orders. And quite often these orders are to protect the state, the landowners and the property owners. Read up on the Battle of Orgreave or the Beanfield.
BeckyBoo
06-02-2004, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Blagsta
As I've said before Becky - you are well meaning but naive. Unless you've experienced these things, you don't know.
Cos i dont break the law and i dont use drugs that makes me know fuck all does it ?
Yeah thanks Blagsta, you certainly know how to keep putting people down.
Blagsta
06-02-2004, 05:56 PM
*exasperated sigh*
No. As I've said before on here Becky, I think you are a well meaning and nice person, but you just come across as being naive about some things, thats all. Thats not meant as an insult, merely an observation. If you choose to be insulted by it, thats your problem.
BeckyBoo
06-02-2004, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Blagsta
If you choose to be insulted by it, thats your problem.
Why did I expect a response like that ?
Blagsta
06-02-2004, 06:49 PM
I dunno. Maybe I'm predictable?
But believe it or not Becky, I am not insulting you. Merely expressing an observation based on what you write on here.
The Doc
06-02-2004, 07:42 PM
"All extremists should be shot" - My Dad's friend, 2003.
Most opinions in this thread are narrowminded and un-balanced- from both sides.
Blagsta and Whowhere, you especially.
Whowhere is evidently dreaming of some Utopia, and trying to run some kind of prohibition state, just because some people are bad when they have taken narcotics of any kind.
And Blagsta is evidently living in a fantasy where everyone is happy, jolly and take drugs all the time, and they just have to pop down to Lloyd's to get them.
Take in what the other side is saying , or it is a pointless debate!
Blagsta
06-02-2004, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by the doc horatio
And Blagsta is evidently living in a fantasy where everyone is happy, jolly and take drugs all the time, and they just have to pop down to Lloyd's to get them.
Errrm...what? :confused:
Please find me some examples of me expressing this point of view.
Oh no, you won't be able to, 'cos I don't. :rolleyes:
Another example of someone not reading the thread properly.
The Doc
06-02-2004, 09:09 PM
I was trying to get over that you are being narrow-minded. Why don't you actually read the words that Whowhere is saying rather than telling him how wrong he is? Try and see things from his perspective. That is what debating is all about.
The Matadore
06-02-2004, 11:18 PM
Blagsta, your attitude is exteremely patronising.
Just because some of the other people here have not been involved in crack dens, or been in anarchist groups, or have lived such a noble anti-establishment existence such as yours does NOT make them naive fools whose opinion is of no value.
The Police in this country do a damn fine job. You canot critiscise the whole lot of them for the actions of a very small minority.
Without the Police this country would fall apart and anarchy would reign, but hang on, thats what you want innit?
Blagsta
07-02-2004, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by the doc horatio
I was trying to get over that you are being narrow-minded. Why don't you actually read the words that Whowhere is saying rather than telling him how wrong he is? Try and see things from his perspective. That is what debating is all about.
Errrr...what? I have laid out my arguments. Whowhere has consistently refused to engage with them.
Blagsta
07-02-2004, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by The Matadore
Without the Police this country would fall apart and anarchy would reign, but hang on, thats what you want innit?
Where did I say that? Who's being patronising now?
BeckyBoo
07-02-2004, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by morrocan roll
...and coppers are renowned for sticking together. grass 'em up and your fucking meat pal!
and in other professions they dont ? lets face it if you worked as a team in any job and one of your team mates did something which they maybe shouldnt have are you telling me you would grass them up ?
morrocan roll
07-02-2004, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by BeckyBoo
and in other professions they dont ? lets face it if you worked as a team in any job and one of your team mates did something which they maybe shouldnt have are you telling me you would grass them up ? agreed. just think WW is in for a bit of a shock when he realises how many perfectly good cops use drugs. how many proffesionals from all walks of life. his views will have to change about drugs being bad bad bad ...
Whowhere
07-02-2004, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Blagsta
Where did I say that? Who's being patronising now?
It's not what you say, it's the underlying attitude you show towards the police and the state as a whole.
Want to know what my remit is? I don't protect property, I protect life and the community. Yes, if I see someone walking the streets with a video recorder I may stop them, but then again there's a high chance they'll pull a needle out on me, fuck the video recorder, I'm not paid enough to make sure an insurance company is happy.
I won't be policing demonstrations or football matches or going on undercover operations to drug dens. I'll be doing community work, visiting schools, patrolling suburban streets, that sort of thing.
Let me ask you something, why is it wrong for a huntsman to hunt? Is it morally wrong? They are exercising their right to express themselves and carry out a tradition they have done for hundreds of years. By protesting you are exercising your rights to freedom of speech. But why does anyone have to listen to you? Is fox hunting MORALLY wrong? Strange then that you agree with prostitution and the legalisation of drugs, which to many others appear morally repugnant. You agree with the wastage of human life, but not that of a small orange dog. Strange.
Maybe because it's cruel? Injecting yourself with heroin is cruel, it's cruel to your family, cruel to your friends and cruel to your own wellbeing. but it doesn't seem to be wrong in your eyes.
I don't want to start a debate about hunting, it's just an example of how there are double standards everywhere, including in the police force.
Yes, there may be times I will have to do somethig I don't agree with. Have you ever had to do something you didn't agree with? has anyone?
I believe the police have the hardest job of all. They have to be able to make judgements, often difficult ones all the time. We were having a crime scene investigator talk to us the other day, telling us of how one day they had to goto a burglary, but got called away to a forensic examination of a 4 year old boy who had been raped. They had been ordered somewhere first but made a decision to anger the rich upperclass householder to help a poor family in Clifton.
Maybe those police who could have chased your mugger were doing something more important. The police don't just sit out on the streets in big groups unless they're in the middle of something.
Blagsta
07-02-2004, 10:42 AM
You'll learn. Or not as the case may be.
Yerascrote
07-02-2004, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by Whowhere
And how would you know that all the way from where you are now eh?
Are you an expert on drug matters in the greater Nottingham area? Bullshit.
Where did I say I believed the figures? All I've said is what I've been told. I have been told the current prices, as they are from police officers who have been told by drug users and from police officers on under cover work.
As for joining the part time cop thingy as you call it, I've joined because unlike you and your drunken, drugged up, headbutting friends I want to help the community. Like I said before I won't be arresting people left right and centre, I don't want to do that. You can't blame me because you aspire to do nothing more with your life than get get high and headbutt cops.
Although methinks that if you tried it where you are you may get shot.
"But I thought his green helmet made him a policeman".
mr Roll, I said I'll gracoiusly admit you are right on the Canadian cannabis thing. However i'd like to see what happens if you try and remove the rights to a lucrative drug supply from the big time dealers.
whowhere, gimme your number, i'll ring you in five years and we'll see whose the low life scumbag, just because i take drugs doesn't mean i'm not doing 4 A-Levels at school at this moment, you're a very silly naive idiolistic prat, wise up
Namaste
07-02-2004, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by Whowhere
It's not what you say, it's the underlying attitude you show towards the police and the state as a whole.
Want to know what my remit is? I don't protect property, I protect life and the community. Yes, if I see someone walking the streets with a video recorder I may stop them, but then again there's a high chance they'll pull a needle out on me, fuck the video recorder, I'm not paid enough to make sure an insurance company is happy.
I won't be policing demonstrations or football matches or going on undercover operations to drug dens. I'll be doing community work, visiting schools, patrolling suburban streets, that sort of thing.
Let me ask you something, why is it wrong for a huntsman to hunt? Is it morally wrong? They are exercising their right to express themselves and carry out a tradition they have done for hundreds of years. By protesting you are exercising your rights to freedom of speech. But why does anyone have to listen to you? Is fox hunting MORALLY wrong? Strange then that you agree with prostitution and the legalisation of drugs, which to many others appear morally repugnant. You agree with the wastage of human life, but not that of a small orange dog. Strange.
Maybe because it's cruel? Injecting yourself with heroin is cruel, it's cruel to your family, cruel to your friends and cruel to your own wellbeing. but it doesn't seem to be wrong in your eyes.
I don't want to start a debate about hunting, it's just an example of how there are double standards everywhere, including in the police force.
Yes, there may be times I will have to do somethig I don't agree with. Have you ever had to do something you didn't agree with? has anyone?
I believe the police have the hardest job of all. They have to be able to make judgements, often difficult ones all the time. We were having a crime scene investigator talk to us the other day, telling us of how one day they had to goto a burglary, but got called away to a forensic examination of a 4 year old boy who had been raped. They had been ordered somewhere first but made a decision to anger the rich upperclass householder to help a poor family in Clifton.
Maybe those police who could have chased your mugger were doing something more important. The police don't just sit out on the streets in big groups unless they're in the middle of something.
Actually some police men are alright and if you're in the job genuinely to help people and not to push people around, power trip, beat up homos or for the money then -:thumb: to ya.
However, personally I've had shit off the police, they don't like the way I dress because I'm a rocker and therefor I must be a smackhead or something. They didn't help out when my friend got attacked with a hammer for his dress sense and also when I was 11 and two people attacked me. I ended up in hospital with stiches in my head. The same boy pulled out a knife on my brother and had a friend grope my brother's mate less than a year ago.
I respect the police, especially on a Saturday night where they keep order outside nightclubs, but I doubt I'd ever put my trust in them. Not so much that I'm anti-authority, I respect parts of the law that I feel I should respect and break other parts that I think are daft.
As for the drugs debate, I've been in the scene and seen/tried this or that for a few years and the only drug I believe to be safe is cannabis. Fuck alcohol... if you've ever seen a violent alcoholic, somebody bottled or been abused by an alcoholic then you'll know what I mean. Pills I have seen make people mentally ill, acid and 'shrooms can trigger psychotic episodes, heroine and crack and extremely addictive, speed can cause you to grind down your teeth... Doesn't anything that changes your body chemistry have a bad effect of some sort?
whowhere, gimme your number, i'll ring you in five years and we'll see whose the low life scumbag, just because i take drugs doesn't mean i'm not doing 4 A-Levels at school at this moment, you're a very silly naive idiolistic prat, wise up
I'd be careful with taking drugs and doing studies :eek2: they can affect how you do. My mate failed his English language course because he was on a come down.
Anyway, often the police apparently do a good job. As I've said I don't trust them, I let them do what they wanna. Some of them are nice and others are racist/sexist/homophobic pricks. I can see why many people are anti-police, but I think it's the institution that's the problem, not the individuals. Give Whowhere a break, he only seems to want to help people.
Blagsta
07-02-2004, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by MoonRat
Give Whowhere a break, he only seems to want to help people.
Maybe. But attitudes such as
"The sheer fact that smoking Weed will some day make me go insane"
"The thing thats pissing me off as well are the stupid fucks who think it's ok to smoke it in public, I'll be on the look out for them and they'll wish they hadn't."
"you'll hate us even more when you realise that the reason your beloved weed has gone up in price is because we're seizing the houses, cars and bank accounts of the people who grow it."
don't exactly endear him to me.
morrocan roll
07-02-2004, 03:15 PM
despite WW's attitudes i do believe he knows he has a lot to learn out there. he will be doing interesting and mostly good work on our mad streets. he's young and hopefull and full of enthusiasm to get out there and do something.
all the best WW ...as you learn ...let us know.
Whowhere
07-02-2004, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by turlough
whowhere, gimme your number, i'll ring you in five years and we'll see whose the low life scumbag, just because i take drugs doesn't mean i'm not doing 4 A-Levels at school at this moment, you're a very silly naive idiolistic prat, wise up
Lots of people are "doing" 4 a-levels. I don't know what the situation is like over there, but here most people don't brag about them.
You're the naive one if you think life will be a bed of roses when you leave just because you have 4 a-levels.
dantheman
09-02-2004, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by turlough
whowhere, gimme your number, i'll ring you in five years and we'll see whose the low life scumbag, just because i take drugs doesn't mean i'm not doing 4 A-Levels at school at this moment, you're a very silly naive idiolistic prat, wise up
Apologies, didn't realise we had an Albert Einstein here.
dantheman
09-02-2004, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by the doc horatio
Most opinions in this thread are narrowminded and un-balanced- from both sides.
You've hit the nail on the head, there are too many people on this forum too wrapped up in there own political agendas too even consider the other side of the argument, this goes for a lot of the lefts and rights. I think Beckyboo tries to keep an open mind, some other people should give that a shot.
Namaste
10-02-2004, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by turlough
whowhere, gimme your number, i'll ring you in five years and we'll see whose the low life scumbag, just because i take drugs doesn't mean i'm not doing 4 A-Levels at school at this moment, you're a very silly naive idiolistic prat, wise up
Let's just hope one of those A levels isn't English language. ;)
Jus' kidding. :p
morrocan roll
10-02-2004, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by dantheman
You've hit the nail on the head, there are too many people on this forum too wrapped up in there own political agendas too even consider the other side of the argument, this goes for a lot of the lefts and rights. I think Beckyboo tries to keep an open mind, some other people should give that a shot. beckys humility is a wonderful thing to behold. she'll fight you tooth and nail for what she believes ...like a terrier who won't take it's teeth out of your ankle grrrr! but she will openly hold her hands up and say ..."hey i never saw it that way before"
but mostly ...it is in here, a handgrade lobbing exercise from opposing and entrenched sides ...which is very entertaining and enlightenink.
we wouldn't want this place to be like the other boards.
Whowhere
10-02-2004, 07:15 PM
Just in case anyone cares, it was my second day on the streets today. Yesterday we were out meeting the community, going in shops and the like.
Today was gonna be the same, but I am going to go down in history as the first officer to find a dead body on his second day :(
Yerascrote
10-02-2004, 07:23 PM
has it gave you second thoughts?
Whowhere
10-02-2004, 07:36 PM
no, shit happens. If it was messy then maybe I might have lost it on my second day, but seeing a dead body is still a shock to the system.
But I just got on with it, and concentrated on what I was taught on preserving scenes.
The social worker on the other hand looked like he was going to be sick.
morrocan roll
10-02-2004, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by Whowhere
no, shit happens. If it was messy then maybe I might have lost it on my second day, but seeing a dead body is still a shock to the system.
But I just got on with it, and concentrated on what I was taught on preserving scenes.
The social worker on the other hand looked like he was going to be sick. all power to your elbow mate ...be humble when possible ...and learn all about the human condition ...on the front line. and be hard as nails when the situation looks like it's him or you ...seriously. all the best WW.
Blagsta
10-02-2004, 08:15 PM
If you are doing a good job whowhere, then good luck. But I think you have a lot to learn and maybe need to change your attitude a bit.
Digital-Emotion
10-02-2004, 08:28 PM
what was the cause/suspected cause of death?
Whowhere
10-02-2004, 08:54 PM
no idea, i'm not a doctor. We don't even bother hazrding a guess, we let the coroner decide.
BeckyBoo
10-02-2004, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Blagsta
and maybe need to change your attitude a bit.
Yeah he will have a hell of a lot to learn cos he's new to this job, but one thing that made me smile was your comment I just quoted........HIS attitude :lol: :lol:
Blagsta
10-02-2004, 09:39 PM
:p
BeckyBoo
10-02-2004, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by morrocan roll
she'll fight you tooth and nail for what she believes ...like a terrier who won't take it's teeth out of your ankle grrrr!
lol that also made me smile :D
BeckyBoo
10-02-2004, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by Whowhere
but I am going to go down in history as the first officer to find a dead body on his second day :(
gawd, not nice that.
Bet thats one part of the job thats gonna be the hardest, moreso if relatives/friends are there also.
Whowhere
10-02-2004, 09:48 PM
Blagsta did you just edit your post because it fucked my comp up when I tried to quote it.
As for a shock you think I'm gonna get, so far I've not been surprised about the levels of criminal scum on the streets.
They've all lived up to the stereotype I had before I started. low brow, poor intelligence, inability to communicate with words containing more than 2 syllables and a penchant for stealing bikes and burning sofas in their back gardens.
morrocan roll
10-02-2004, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by Whowhere
Blagsta did you just edit your post because it fucked my comp up when I tried to quote it.
As for a shock you think I'm gonna get, so far I've not been surprised about the levels of criminal scum on the streets.
They've all lived up to the stereotype I had before I started. low brow, poor intelligence, inability to communicate with words containing more than 2 syllables and a penchant for stealing bikes and burning sofas in their back gardens. PMSL!
i lived near there more than once ...
Whowhere
10-02-2004, 10:15 PM
p.s.I'm talking about crims, not drug users before anyone says anything.
Blagsta
10-02-2004, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by Whowhere
Blagsta did you just edit your post because it fucked my comp up when I tried to quote it.
I edited my response to Becky, yes.
Originally posted by Whowhere
As for a shock you think I'm gonna get, so far I've not been surprised about the levels of criminal scum on the streets.
They've all lived up to the stereotype I had before I started. low brow, poor intelligence, inability to communicate with words containing more than 2 syllables and a penchant for stealing bikes and burning sofas in their back gardens.
I hope you're trying to be ironic.
BeckyBoo
10-02-2004, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by Blagsta
I edited my response to Becky, yes.
why, what did it originally say :yeees:
Blagsta
10-02-2004, 10:53 PM
Can't remember, my usual arrogant response probably.
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