How do u act on E's?

[Londonboy]

I went out clubbing last night, this was the first time i had been clubbin with my new GF.
But when shes on pills she says its better to sit down because the effect lasts longer. I think that is completly mad because if i was to sit down while im on a pill i'd just be rocking back and forth cause i have too much energy in my body, instead i just dance like a nutter for 8 hours.

How do you lot act when your on a pill?

[lucifer devil]

Wouldn't know, I'm happy to say I have more sense than that :)

No offence to anyone who does stuff like that..it just ain't my thing :rolleyes:

[z0ma]

Depends where I am really.

If I'm at a club, like you said I'll just dance like a mad man for hours.

If I'm round at someone's houseparty or whatever, I'll generally just wonder about chatting to people about utter bollocks ("Well, my theory about the creation of the world...") and just generally not staying very still at all. If I do sit down like you said I can't stay still long because I just start bopping about in the seat.

I don't think I'm annoying on them. People say I'm not, but they might just be saying that because they're lying bastards. I dunno.

My mate however, is the most annoying person when he's had a few. :mad: Good God.

Every few minutes he shouting "GET UP! COME ON...DO THIS..DO THIS..IT FEELS GREAT!!" with his instructions to jump around and 'feel the air'. Him screaming that in your ear every 5 minutes when you're trying to have a nice euphoric high isn't the most enjoyable experience.

He's even worse in a club too. I wanted to stuff that fucking whistle down his throat by the end of the night. :p

[z0ma]

Originally posted by lucifer devil
Wouldn't know, I'm happy to say I have more sense than that :)

No offence to anyone who does stuff like that..it just ain't my thing :rolleyes:

And the point in that was what exactly?

Obviously you're going to cause offence if you're going to call people senseless.

Think that's about equivalent with replying to a thread with "Sorry, I don't know."

:rolleyes:

[stevey713]

i love e's. my favourite drug. i luv them with alcohol, just not too much of it! have some water as well just enough! but on their own i think they are better. im gettin some with in the next week for a party, well a celebration!

[Londonboy]

Lucifer u cant really dis what u havent tried.
Sometimes it annoys the hell outta me when people get judgmental. E's are probably one of the more safer drugs around and its all in the name of fun. I never feel closer to another human being as when im on E, its like i love everyone. Sunday night went to the bank in the middle of a session at a club on the way back i spent a £10 on homeless people. Now dont tell me that E is bad.

Plus respect to my fellow pill heads. Lol.

[Shogun]

Even though i don't take ecstacy yet, i do have to agree with you there london boy, ecstacy users are not bad when they are trashed, they are happy people, wanting to talk, smoke a joint...can be annoying sometimes with constant talking shit.

[Londonboy]

yeh troo, but i never take e's at a party and when im in a club i dance too much to talk. Coke i would say is the best for parties if your really up for somethin, but i just get pissed, cheaper.

You thinking about trying pills?

[Shogun]

thought about it before, nearly did but then didn't...haven't yet but some of my mates do it, the only thing i would be worried about is what's in the pill, testing yes i know but i don't have a testing kit and can't get one so i think i'll leave pills for now.

[Londonboy]

cool cool, you know it would be extremly and i mean literally unlikely that someone would give u a spiked pill, unless they were crazed murderers. U see when someone dies from a pill its bad for business, so pill makers arent going to fuck u up. However i would advise against buying in a club, purely because u might be taking any shit.

If u do decide to do it, only take half to start with, buy off someone u know or has a good rep, and take it with people u can trust and count on

stay cool, have fun

[Shogun]

If i did take it i would buy off people i know and only take half the first time.

To be honest though i'm more interested in drugs like acid, mushies,mesclaine,salvia,dmt,truffles,trippy drugs.
I've only tried cannabis,alcohol,truffles,salvia.

It may be unlikely that it's a dodgy pill but that's not the point, it's what is in the pill, i don't know what is in it and i don't know what reaction it could have on me since i've never taken it.

[budda]

Londonboy; if you are dancing like a nutter for 8 hours of your pills have you ever considered that maybe your just taking a speed bomb insted?

[*Lisa*]

Originally posted by lucifer devil
Wouldn't know, I'm happy to say I have more sense than that :)

No offence to anyone who does stuff like that..it just ain't my thing :rolleyes:

I was so like that a year ago and now I've tried it I can happily say I'm glad I have.

When I'm at a house and pilled up I get really loved up. Esp. when I'm with my sister. I just chat shit with people basically.

In a club I dance or walk round chattin to people.

Your gf is probably right in saying that it last longer if you sit down but like other have said you'd just rock loads.

[CheeseOnToast]

Nah Pills are yummmmmmmmy.

I love them no matter where I am.. in the house, me and the girlies and boys just cook a half ounce mix and sit talking crap all night listening to some hardcore

In a club usually consists of me talkin shit, dancing like a muppet, smackin out in the toilets etc etc

If I don't take enough I can't cope with a lot, I just like to lie around with my eyes shut spinning out, suck a few cones though and I'm ok..

I often find myself day dreaming though, drank poppers once thinking I had a drink in my hand haha

[VinylVicky]

I go all extra friendly, more considerate, far more witty, my eyes go huge which makes me better looking so I get loadsa more confidence and I get a huge grin on me face which I cant stop :D

[Blagsta]

Originally posted by bongbudda
Londonboy; if you are dancing like a nutter for 8 hours of your pills have you ever considered that maybe your just taking a speed bomb insted?

Thats what I thought. MDMA doesn't really give me energy, it just gives me a state of mind. It can be very relaxing at times.

[Londonboy]

i've done speed before but it never usually lasts that long? plus i still get the euphoric feeling associated with Mdma. In fact every pill i have taken has given me lots of energy, maybe im just unlucky to get ones with speed in maybe. I really need to get a good supply or even pure MDMa.
Im thinking of taking mushies lately for the state of mind tho.

[lucifer devil]

Originally posted by z0ma
And the point in that was what exactly?

Obviously you're going to cause offence if you're going to call people senseless.

Think that's about equivalent with replying to a thread with "Sorry, I don't know."

:rolleyes:

Like I said...no offence. I wasn't putting anyone down who's into that kinda thing...it's just like smoking, I don't understand why people do it. But hey, each to their own.

[z0ma]

Originally posted by VinylVicky
my eyes go huge which makes me better looking

:eek2:

I don't know how you can say that. Fair enough you're a girl, and I've never noticed if girls look better/worse with huge pupils so can't comment, but me personally, I look a twat with big pupils.

:p

[VinylVicky]

Originally posted by z0ma
:eek2:

I don't know how you can say that. Fair enough you're a girl, and I've never noticed if girls look better/worse with huge pupils so can't comment, but me personally, I look a twat with big pupils.

:p
LOL yeah men do, but girlies look lovely with huge eyes, prolly cos mine are blue/grey and it makes em stand out more.

[Shogun]

When i was on truffles my pupils were huge, found it rather funny to see how big they were, but after all of two seconds i went on about my business and didn't care how big my pupils were.

[z0ma]

Originally posted by Shogun
When i was on truffles my pupils were huge, found it rather funny to see how big they were, but after all of two seconds i went on about my business and didn't care how big my pupils were.

Yeah it's all good and well while you're on the drug, but when I take pills, the next day my pupils are still huge, regardless, and it's a dead giveaway. :nervous:

[Shogun]

Originally posted by z0ma
Yeah it's all good and well while you're on the drug, but when I take pills, the next day my pupils are still huge, regardless, and it's a dead giveaway. :nervous:

the whole day? i'm sure it's a giveaway but just say...eh...you have wierd eyes ;)

[budda]

Londonboy; Well you can make MDMA last 8 hours but it wont be a rushing dancing experiance after the first 4 or so, you'll just feel monged and a bit out of it.

If you have had speed before and can tell between the two I'd just suggest that you are getting a mix of the two, however without testing the pills that you are taking thats hard to tell.

Do you need very many to get high or do you take less than most people?

About the only way I know that you can truely extend the high from MDMA is meth, because it works differently to normal speed it extends the high, however its really bad for you and gives you the nastiest comedown of virtualy anything.
I would highly doubt that you are getting pills with MDMA and meth in, they are very rare.

Talking of pupil size, my worst has to be when I did AMT, my pupils were big for about 24 hours after I took it.

[Skive]

Originally posted by bongbudda

I would highly doubt that you are getting pills with MDMA and meth in, they are very rare.

[budda]

Mmmm, they were rather good werent they. Shame theres not more like that around really.

Personaly I prefered the light grey ones to the white ones, with just a little MDA into the mix as well.

[Skive]

Originally posted by bongbudda
Personaly I prefered the light grey ones to the white ones, with just a little MDA into the mix as well.

:yes:

The ever so slightly speckled ones that looked a little dirty - absolutely wicked mate!

[Londonboy]

well the last batch i bought were speckly with a heart logo on them, with these i didnt have the high all 8 hours but i did manage to have a lot of energy? Dirty come down tho?
funnily enough i only need 1 to get a high, but then im usually chasing the dragon, so i can end up taking 4 a night.

How do u go about testing pills anyway, is it like a universal indicator type chemical? can i buy it? would help if i knew what were in my drugs occasionally

[budda]

It would help if you knew what you were taking ALL the time. As for the tester, you can buy one from e-z testing, I cant remember the site at the moment, go to www.pillreports.com and they will tell you.
Its a little dropper bottle of liquid that changes colour.

Its interesting you saying you only need one to get high, either your getting strong pills or maybe you dont have the enzime, and therefore they are stronger. How many do your mates take in comparison? If you need a lot less than them it would suggest the enzime angle if not then its unlikely.
How often have you done pills, obviously your tolerance will play a part in it as well.

[Londonboy]

lol budda i think i may get strong pills, i usually get em from the same guy, but then again im taking more than my mates who use mine as well.
I take it your therory is that because i dont have the correct enzymes then my body has a harder time breaking it down, if so then whoohoo to my dodgy system.

i dont actually take pills that often, maybe once a month, so then again my tolerance may be quite low, hmm i suppose theres so many factors that decide how your gonna react to a pill.

Anyway all i know is that i'm gonna need a gumsheild nxt time i pop some now my wisdom teeth are fully out, ive cut chunks outta the inside of my cheek and i havent been able to eat properly in a week :(

btw budda which area of london u from, do u go clubbin at all?

[bob84]

I just have to tell people about my first good experience on pills! (since I can't tell my family). But first you might wonder, about my bad experiences. Well, each time I have gotten the pills (god knows what was in them) off dodgy people who were like a friend of a friend, in a club. The first time I had been really drunk and a bit depressed at the time, so I took one. The first time I just acted like a prat, dancing stupidly, but cos I was too drunk I forgot most of the night (pointless!). The second time I can't remember anything (even how many I took) I just collapsed and some girl saw me and got me some help - next thing I know I've been asleep so long it's time to leave the club. The 3rd time I was again drunk, I took 2 pills, and I was with my brother, who I was pretty pissed off with, so I got a bit aggressive and it was scary because I knew I was being aggressive towards him and it was wrong, but I had like no control to stop myself. I just shouted at him alot, with other people staring at me - what a dick I was. After 3 bad experiences you'd think I'd not be stupid enough to do it again, but the thing is that people have only convinced me to take pills when I'm really drunk, that's when I do stupid things.

So now for last nights experience... it was fantastic! This time I was drunk again, but the difference was, I wasn't in a depressed mood to start with, I was really happy because I was with my new girlfriend :). She convinced me to take 2 pills and she did the same herself. During the first half hour I got a bit panicky and scared because I was worried I'd have a bad reaction again. But I had my girlfriend and all my mates with me to reassure me :D Then I started feeling really happy and really got into dancing. Then I had another scary moment when suddenly things went a bit dizzy and distorted, "firestarter" was playing and time went by really fast, it felt like the whole song lasted just 10 seconds :eek: Then time went back to normal but I was left with double vision for about an hour, but I didn't care I was just loving dancing around. When the club closed I felt really happy and close to all my friends, lots of hugging etc. :) Then (this is a bit of a crazy thing which I do) I rode my bike home from the club while mashed at 3am (I do this every week). This guy Shaun asked me how I could ride a bike while so mashed, and I blabbed some theory about how I have had enough practice at riding for the process to work in my subconcious mind, so it didn't matter that I was mashed. With that, I did this huge wheely (overtaking a car on the inside, oops) and rode home. I was probably in reality doing crap wheelies and wobbling all over, but it felt good to me. I spent 2 hours riding my bike home (it usually takes me 40 mins), cos I took diversions through all the parks and hills and was doing lots of wheelies everywhere. The only bad point of the night is I chewed my lips to bits.

One good thing to note is that, every time I've taken a pill, I've not had any hangover from the drink the next day.

Sorry if that was a bit long and boring I just had to get it out cos I am so happy and don't have anyone else to tell! I think that I must be a bit wierd, does everyone else get the same effects as me? What do you think was in my pills last night?

[budda]

Londonboy; West london, and no I dont really go out clubbing that often at all. The last time I went out was Elation, I tried to arrange a meet up with some of the others but they were all too light weight for proper hardcore.

Bob84; I'm glad you had a good time, but if you were ridding a motorbike then thats just fucking stupid, you'll get your licence taken away too for that kind of shit.
As for what was in your pills, I dont know, given whats in most pills I'd say MDMA with a small amount of MDA.

[bob84]

grrr im fed up of these boards not working :mad:

but basically no i meant bicycle not a motorbike

[Skive]

Originally posted by bob84
I did this huge wheely (overtaking a car on the inside, oops) and rode home.

Either you you were riding like grease lightning or the driver of the car was kerb crawling!

[blonde__batman]

Originally posted by Londonboy
E's are probably one of the more safer drugs around and its all in the name of fun.

umm...im sorry but are you retarded? you can die from takin one E....doesnt sound very safe to me

[RiSe & ShIne]

Originally posted by blonde__batman
umm...im sorry but are you retarded? you can die from takin one E....doesnt sound very safe to me

He's right.

The people who die from taking pillsare too stupid to be doing them tbh. they ignore the risks and generally act like arseholes by not not drinking enough water and dehydrating, or drinking too much water/alcohol and die that way.

[LadyJade]

I'd would just like to paraphrase something Bongbudda said in the poppers thread - there is no such thing as a safe drug, they are all inherantly harmful.

But as Rise and Shine was implying, there are ways to take them that minimise the risks - that is the information we are trying to share on these boards.

I'm afraid I can't let a statement about 'drugs being safe' slide without comment, 'cos they're not. But if your going to take them be informed and sensible.

Lecture over.

Sometimes this mod stuff is hard work.......

[Blagsta]

Originally posted by bongbudda
Bob84; I'm glad you had a good time, but if you were ridding a motorbike then thats just fucking stupid, you'll get your licence taken away too for that kind of shit.

Seconded. I know someone who killed themselves hitting a tree while riding a motorbike off their nut on pills.

Don't do it.

[budda]

Blond_batman; Yes, you are totaly right, you can die from taking one pill. However the actual statistical risk is very slight, some 1 million pills are consumed every week and there are about a dozen deaths a year, most of those being multi-drug problems.

[slinkyGirl1]

I first have to say that E is my drug of choice.

K , let me think about the way that i act on E ..... I get really realy friendly and start chatting with everyone, and when i say everyone, i mean everyone. I can leave a club having met at LEAST 4 different new ppl. I Love to dance, and there is no stopping me, i also get really loveable.

When i am shmangeled at a house party, i just sit around and chat alot. All my friends say that i talk so much that they cant get a word in edge ways.

:p

[Shogun]

do most of all you's be drunk whenever on e's or do you find this has any bad ways on the effect of the e...for the past lock of weekends i've noticed that whenever i'm with people who are taking e's they are always drunk as well and has no bad effects on them and i know whenever i try it i will probably have some drink in me, is this really that dangerous or just all a myth?

[Londonboy]

Yeh i usually have a couple of pints before i take an E shogun and ive never had a problem. But then alcohol does make you become dehydrated so its one of those where u need to be sensible about your intake of water.

About what blonde batman said. Yes there is no such thing as a safer drug i suppose because all drugs in some way or another will eventually effect you in a negative way. But in comparison ecstatsy as a drug has a lower rate of death than other drugs.

However i'm not implying that anyone should go out and take drugs and i would never pressure anyone into taking drugs. That is the choice of an individual.

[Shogun]

well my mates never take any water or does anyone i know whenever they are out, maybe a glass or so, just sitting smoking spliffs and drinking, no water.

[Londonboy]

i suppose in some ways E is related to dancing hard and when you dance you sweat, so the fact that your sweating and the drug is making you dehydrated as well is the reason sufficient amounts of water should be consumed.
But if your just monging out in a corner smoking spliffs then i suppose your only gonna get slight dehydation which would require only a normal amount of water.

[Skive]

Originally posted by blonde__batman
umm...im sorry but are you retarded? you can die from takin one E....doesnt sound very safe to me

I do beleive Londonboy said 'safer' (not safe). He's right though, there are far more dangerous drugs out there you could be taking or smoking - such as alcohol and tobacco (1 in 4 smokers get lung cancer). One pill - yes it could kill but the risk in taking a pill is about the same as taking a trip horseriding or fishing ...every year a lot of people die from choking on something they've eaten, but that doesn't mean your going to stop eating.

At the end of the day if you sat down and worked and the risks you take in an average week you'd be supprised, I bet there's quite a few things that work out to be more risky than dropping an E yet you still wouldn't think twice.

Ecstasy is not the killer that so many people believe it to be - yes it is involved in a small number of deaths a year - but that doesn't always mean it's responsible for the death of the person. Usually a cocktail of drugs is involved where someone has gone OTT and suffered and alcohol is often involved. If people used this drug sensibly then ecstasy related deaths would almost dissapear!

I thinks it's pretty much accepted by most scientist and even the government now that the risk of death from ecstasy is minimal. What is still and unknown is the effect the drug will have on users 20 years down the line from now - (see the thread 'Why does it not supprise me?)!

[LadyJade]

I think on of the reasons you are highly recommended to drink water whilst taking drugs is for the long term health of your internal organs..... Your body is working hard to expel the toxins you have put in to it, and water just helps that along.

By drinking alcohol as well, you are putting extra strain on your body, and the more dehydrated you are the harder your body has to work to cleanse itself. You can get dehydrated from simply not drinking enough liquid, you don't have to be doing loads of dancing or exercise, so if you are smoking or drinking alcohol that will increase your need for water and the amount of toxins that your body has to expel. Its not so bad while you are young and your body is resilient, but it may not be so nice when you are older and your liver has packed it in!!

Just try drinking a bit of water if you don't generally, and see if it makes your comedown any small amount better, sometimes part of the reason you feel shite is lack of sleep and dehydration.

[VinylVicky]

oh I forgot...theres a pic of me on drugs in clubbing and festivels....thats how I act :p

[LadyJade]

Where's the link then?????:p

[z0ma]

As LadyJane said, even if you seem fine after a night out mixing ecstasy and alcohol, you will have put your body under major strain from the mix of an upper and a downer which is obviously not recommended.

Fair enough most of us have gone out and popped a pill or twoafter having a few pints and it's all harmless fun but you've got to take into consideration that the alcohol will make you dehydrate a lot quicker than ecstasy on it's own, and will also make you overheat easier too.

Also I think the stimulant effects of the ecstasy may in a sense mask the effects of the alcohol, so you may feel inclined to have more, and in this sense will make overdose easier.

Just because you survived the night with no hitches, doesn't mean your bodies working fine..

[VinylVicky]

Originally posted by LadyJade
Where's the link then?????:p
There ya go :p
http://vbulletin.thesite.org.uk/attachment.php?s=&postid=766198

[Shogun]

If people used this drug sensibly then ecstasy related deaths would almost dissapear!

skivel;so what do you call sensibly...

[lil_minx]

To be honest, i think theres no such thing as sensible use if youre taking it then youre already being VERY unsensible.... (says the girl who thinks shes sensible but takes pills)

[Skive]

Originally posted by Shogun
skivel;so what do you call sensibly...

I believe that there is such as sensible use. Motorbikes for instance are a well known to be ptentially very dangerous and many people die on them each year. Now if you had a motorbike and always wore a helmet, didn't use excessive speed all the time and generally took precautions I'd say you were a 'sensible rider'. A sensible ecstasy user in my view is someone that kept up their fluid intake (by that I mean water and isotonic drinks - not alcohol), someone that also doesn't mix other drugs while on ecstasy and someone that generally doesn't go over the top with dancing and the quantity they take.

At the end of the day there are so many precautions you can take to lower the risk from E that virtually nobody shgould die from this drug.

Based on the above I am not a 'sensible user', but I have been doing pills now for 6 years or so and I know my limits and I very rarely go over the top. I am quite proud to say that I have never had a bad experience on pills before in my life .

[Shogun]

cannabis is fine though on e's would it not be?

[Skive]

Originally posted by Shogun
cannabis is fine though on e's would it not be?

As far as I know!

A lot of people smoke it to put of a comedown but from experience I'd say that smoking puff on pills may prolong a comedown, but when it finally catches up with you it can be worse.

[katchika]

When I've taken e, (not that many times), I get nervous and excited while I'm waiting for something to happen. My heart beats really fast, I get really hot, dry mouth, my leg shakes and I have to keep moving, jiggling about. I get real hyper, giggly and chatty and more confident than usual. Subjects that I wouldn't normally bring up in conversation are less of a problem.

Kissing and physical stuff feels so incredibly nice, probably my favourite part of taking E. I just feel so close to people and kissing makes me feel a way that is undescribable. I'm normally a bit distant and detached, sarcastic, but on E it feels like my true feelings come to the surface.

If I'm alone though, or someone says something to me the wrong way, it effects me badly, I get scared and paranoid, have nightmares except I'm not asleep, get headaches, I've been sick in the past too. Coming up is not fun! I just lie there with my eyes open, all these random thoughts passing through my brain, but I can't grasp onto any of them.

Find it really interesting to read about how it effects other people.

I had a batch which were little white circles with the Superman logo on.

[budda]

Shogun, the water issue is really blown out of proportion, just drink when you get thirsty, just have some water or juice, with you all the time and just sip it when you get thirsty. Obviously when your dancing you need more than if you are just sitting around at a house party.

And yes you CAN drink booze with pills, but its really not a great idea, not only are there the health problems, with mixing and uper with a downer, but more than anything you ruin the experiance.

MDMA should be light and clear headed, you should feel happy and alert, chatty and generaly lovely, but with booze its more muddled and you just generaly get more 'fucked'.

As for cannabis with MDMA, not there are no real health problems with it as such, I quite like having a few biftas at a club. But personaly I never smoke when I'm coming down, it tends to confuse me and make things worse.

[Shogun]

pussy; that was very well wrote there, no wonder so many people try e but alot of people can be put off by the hype on the news and newspapers, so many people die each year from alcohol abuse and nothing is really said, but if someone dies from ecstacy abuse, oh no, he's on drugs, some shit like that, alot of people have a sterotypical view of people on 'drugs', it sometimes gets to me.

[stevey713]

i agree with you shogun about the alcohol where people die every year from it, thousands, but someone dies of an e overdose or combined too much alcohol or something else, its proper bad and it pisses me off completely! i have loads of arguments with my family and some friends about drug issues like this. its not their fault just the media is the biggest influence in peoples lives today about wrong and right!

[budda]

Yes, but just because booze kills more people doesnt mean that MDMA isnt dangerous, it is. In fact I dont think many people give it the respect it deserves.

As I said in my rant a while ago, many drug deaths are just because people were stupid or illinformed which makes them all the more tragic. But also every drug death reflects on all drug users, tarnishing us all.