Ongoing discussion with the UK's Minister for Europe

[Susie]

Politicians don’t listen, do they?

Hopefully this one will.

TheSite.org is proud to announce it will be hosting an online discussion right here on these boards with the Minister for Europe, Dr Denis MacShane. He will answer your questions about the Euro, expansion, what EU politicians actually do and much, much more.

This is when it’s happening:

Thursday 13 March 2pm: Dr MacShane will come on the politics board and introduce himself and outline some of the areas he is able to discuss. You’ll then have a whole week to post your questions.

Thursday 20 March 2.30-3.30 pm: He’ll be back on the boards to answer your questions from the week. You will then get the opportunity to reply to his answers before he posts his final responses.

Monday 24 March: Final response from the Minister

The Minister assures us he will try and answer all questions that come through, dependent on time available. The discussion is taking place to coincide with ‘Spring Day in Europe, 2003’. Find out more
here (http://www.eun.org/eun.org2/eun/en/SpringSite_Information/content.cfm?ov=20199&lang=en)

[chaos_insomniac]

is this anything to do with the war? That's the main thing on my mind at the moment...

[Aladdin]

Blimey. Well done Thesite! I look forward to the event.

[Toadborg]

Super dooper

Looking forward to it.........

[Renzo]

good good. ill have to ask some questions. We are starting uk relations with europe in my as politics soon so could use some extra info!

[carlito]

Impressive!!

:cool:

I'm hoping this will be a relatively screened thing to prevent abuse from strongly anti-europeans...:s

Looking forward to it though!

[Man Of Kent]

Originally posted by Susie
Dr MacShane will come on the politics board and introduce himself and outline some of the areas he is able to discuss.

able to, or willing to?

Sorry, but I've had too many one-on-one meetings with ministers, not to have a level of cynicism...

Let's hope McBain manages to dispell that some...

[ebb]

Originally posted by Man Of Kent


able to, or willing to?



Exactley, he'll have some skivies doing anything but answer the question put to him ;)

Well done to the mods though :)

[Whowhere]

cool, I hope you've managed to find someway of preventing undesirables from signing up??? lol.

[Susie]

Questions, questions ... all will be revealed tomorrow!
If you want a headstart you could post some questions for the Minister in this thread

Susie :)

[Toadborg]

First question:

What do you think of Germany and French plans for a European avant-garde or 'two-teir' Europe.

Are you worried that we are being left behind in the move towards European integration?

[monocrat]

Second question:

Is a European rapid reaction force still on the agenda?

If so, isn't it possible that this would conflict with NATO? Why is there a need for an extra tier of defence?

[Aladdin]

Third question:
Given the US' reluctance and the UN's apparent inability to deal with the issue, is it time for the EU to adopt a more pro-active role in seeking a solution for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?

[Dom]

Good questions so far. The Minister will be joining us about 2pm today so if there are any more initial questions, get them in before then.

Dom

[Dear Wendy]

Originally posted by Aladdin
Third question:
Given the US' reluctance and the UN's apparent inability to deal with the issue, is it time for the EU to adopt a more pro-active role in seeking a solution for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?

Is it in the field of the EU at all?

And is England relations to the US in a higher prority, than the relations with the rest of the EU?

How committed are England to the EU at all, given the decline of the Euro, and the "isolation" among the other EU countries?

[Toadborg]

Do you see that there will be any long-term damage in relatioins between Britain and Europe from the current differences over the Iraqi crisis.

Do you think this issue has highlighted any deeper ideological differencesover the conduct of foreign policy, particularly with France and Germany?

[BumbleBee]

Can you tell me anything about a European stance on the environment? How does the Kyoto agreement effect Europe?

[Bri-namite]

I'm from Fraserburgh, the most fisheries-dependent town in Europe, and the recent EU quota impositions are turning this once lively community into a ghost towns. The same can be said for Peterhead, the largest white fish port in Europe.

Fishing is in the blood for everyone in the North-East of Scotland, and whenever I go back home, I see more shops boarded up, and the local economy (including my parent's business) suffering.

Do you agree that a long-term package of aid from the EU for such affected towns is the way ahead, and do you agree that this is a flaw in the EU system that local people do not appreciate their livelehoods being dictated by men in suits in Brussels, and that better consultation with local fisheries leaders has to take place in the future, when quota cuts are decided ??

Brian, 19

[Europe_Minister]

Good afternoon. I'm really looking forward to being involved with this discussion over the next couple of weeks. Unfortunately it's not possible to be with you for longer this afternoon but I promise to answer the first few questions for tomorrow. I also aim to answer more questions by Wednesday and I'm very much looking forward to being here for the live session next Thursday (24 March). In the meantime here's some initial thoughts to get the discussion going:

Europe is constantly changing. But we are about to witness one of the biggest and most remarkable changes for more than fifty years. The biggest because, from 2004, the European Union is set to increase its membership by two-thirds, from fifteen to twenty five. It's also the most remarkable because just over a decade ago six of these ten new countries did not even exist as sovereign states.

Less than a generation ago the Berlin Wall stood as a symbol of division and mistrust between East and West. When the UK joined in the 1970's some of our favourite travel destinations - Spain, Greece, Portugal and Cyprus - were under authoritarian rule.

Today our continent is united, democratic, prosperous and free.

With it comes tremendous opportunities to travel, study, work and live visa-free amongst one of the most diverse communities of people and cultures anywhere on earth. Over the last ten years the price of air travel to other EU countries has halved, thanks to the single market. The cost of phone calls to other EU countries has halved in the last four years. Around 10,000 UK students a year study overseas through EU funded exchange programs. And as pollution does not recognise national borders; EU rules ensure that we all benefit from safer beaches, purer water and cleaner air.

The UK Government wants the best possible future for its young people. By building this new Europe we will help secure that future. We will create even more jobs and business opportunities; travel and environmental benefits; new partnerships in the fight against crime, drug smuggling and people trafficking; and greater wealth, stability and the security for us all.

I want young people in the UK to know about the Europe of today, because you will shape the Europe of tomorrow. Europe isn't perfect and I want you to challenge the leaders of today with your visions of tomorrow. We should recognise the benefits of working together and contributing to a wider community that stretches beyond our own shores. Only then can we reap the rewards of peace, security and prosperity within them.

[Toadborg]

Do you think that Britain can be at the centre of the European community without establishing the Euro.

Do you realistically believe that the govt can win a referendum on the Euro during this term of office given that opinion polls tend to show some hostility to the idea........

[Eul Grepus]

Good Afternoon,

As both a resident in Gibraltar, and a student in the United Kingdom, I would like to know your views on the Gibraltar situation. Do your forsee an inevitable deal with Spain where sovereignty will be shared, or even handed over to Spain, or is the current Government going to support Gibraltar and it's people on their views?

I look forward to your reponse

[ATTARTI]

Greetings from Athens.
One simple question for you:Do you think that USA will eventually attack Iraq even if the whole world protest against this war???And if yes how will this effect EU in general and each country more specific?

Thank you in advance.

[Murph the Surf]

Greetings,

My questions are about the present Iraq Chrisis.

How will the UK's support of America affect its relationship with other members of the EU, specifically France and Germany?

How will the present Iraq Chrisis affect Europe's relationship with the Americans?

What do you think the long term effects will be following any war in Iraq?

[Amira]

Dear Minister,

My question is regarding the situation of Iraq, if certain countries do strike on Iraq will the EU back Iraq or the opposing side?

Also I wondering if in case of a war, do u in your opinion beileve that other countries in the Middle East will be affected or not?

On behalf of myself and other members of this forum i would like to thank you for dedicating your precious time to give us a better understanding of todays world happenings.

[Man Of Kent]

I want to steer clear of Iraq because there are plenty of questions about that already and, to be honest, I would prefer if the Minister for Europe was talking about Europe directly. Now, if Jack Straw was here...


Anyway, my first question is simple: How does the EU enhance the democratic process?

Will the Euro improve that, or make no difference.?

Why should the UK vote to change their currency with all of the resultant harmonisation issues that brings?

Oh, and in your lead in statement you give several examples of things that have happened over the past few years, are you suggesting that these happened because of the EU? (eg is the reduction in Airfares thanks to the EU or thanks to people like Stelios)

Okay, bugger this, I'm going for the big ones now:

Given the recent events regarding Iraq (okay, I know I said I wouldn't mention it), the problems encountered over Kosovo, the lack of action in the Balkans, French support for Rwanda and Zimbabwe, how can we claim to be a "united" Europe?

How would an EU foreign policy work, given the different approaches favoured by member states?

What is the point of a Rapid Reaction Force, when we cannot agree on what action needs to be taken? Again I am thinking about the Balkans here, and recent issues over Turkey...

Do you believe that Jaques Chirac was right when he referred to the EU as a "Club" and that the rules of this club should be adhered to by all?

If this club has rules, why don't they apply to France (notably over beef), how did the EU support the UK when this was happening?

Is the CAP a huge waste of taxpayers money, if not how can you justify it?

How does the EU justify spending an huge amount of money moving from Brussels to Strasborg every year, and why does this move take place?

That will do for now, I'm sure I will think of more later...

[Captain Slog]

While I agree the common market is a good thing, I do believe the EU is getting too powerful.

Take, for instance, the banning of selling goods in imperial weights. This is an interfering peice of EU legislation which achieves nothing and can, in fact, make criminals out of older people for no better reason than not being able to understand these new-fangled metric weights.

I would like to see a broader, shallower EU. One that takes in more countries, but lets them run their own affairs up to a point. I do not want a close knit "community" that ties its members together tightly with chafing legislation.

[Simbelyne]

The Euro - When are we going to join?

[Simbelyne]

How long before we join the Euro? It seems stupid to isolate ourselves from the EU by not joining...

[ebb]

I have one real question, do you believe that the long term future of the EU is secure ? The memebers of the EU have a history of war, suspicion and dare I say it hatred :eek: Take the anglo-French relationship for example, there you have two of the EU 'superpowers', yet the bad feeling between the respective populations aren't the sort of sentiments you'd expect to sustain a last in realtionship from, such conflicts can be found throughout the EU. You only have to look at the variety of stances over Iraq to realise nobody in the EU is batting for the same team. Whilst at present the EU does work to an extent, is it not only a matter of time before the whole idea becomes one big schoool playground ? With minimal trust and the formation of mini-alliances and the resulting back stabbing ?

Just as a quick second question, do you think Tony Blairs ultimate objective is to be the president of the United States of Europe ? If so, is the current situation with Iraq likley to damamge his chances ?

[Man Of Kent]

Originally posted by ebb
Just as a quick second question, do you think Tony Blairs ultimate objective is to be the president of the United States of Europe ? If so, is the current situation with Iraq likley to damamge his chances ?

I have something to add to that...

Do you think that theslow movement toward a federal european state is motivated by self interest on behalf of politicians - a chance to get in the history books or to become the leader of a huge state?

Do you think that it is motivated by greed - the quest for bigger profits - on behalf of business?

It really brings me back to the - how is the EU an enhancement to democracy? Personally, I believe that this should be the motivation, I just struggle to see how a further level of Government actually achieves that aim. We have Local Politicians to address local issues and we have national politicians to address national and international issues, so where does the EU fit in?

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by Susie
Politicians don’t listen, do they?

Hopefully this one will.

TheSite.org is proud to announce it will be hosting an online discussion right here on these boards with the Minister for Europe, Dr Denis MacShane. He will answer your questions about the Euro, expansion, what EU politicians actually do and much, much more.

This is when it’s happening:

Thursday 13 March 2pm: Dr MacShane will come on the politics board and introduce himself and outline some of the areas he is able to discuss. You’ll then have a whole week to post your questions.

Thursday 20 March 2.30-3.30 pm: He’ll be back on the boards to answer your questions from the week. You will then get the opportunity to reply to his answers before he posts his final responses.

Monday 24 March: Final response from the Minister

The Minister assures us he will try and answer all questions that come through, dependent on time available. The discussion is taking place to coincide with ‘Spring Day in Europe, 2003’. Find out more
here (http://www.eun.org/eun.org2/eun/en/SpringSite_Information/content.cfm?ov=20199&lang=en)


Hello everyone. I was out and about in my constituency of Rotherham yesterday so couldn't get online - but here's my first few answers.....

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by Toadborg
First question:

What do you think of Germany and French plans for a European avant-garde or 'two-teir' Europe.

Are you worried that we are being left behind in the move towards European integration?


The EU is a union of equal sovereign states. That equality is the bedrock that has kept the union together, and allowed states the size of Germany to work as partners with the very smallest states like Luxembourg. Dividing Europe into a core and periphery undermines that equality and would split the union.

I don't think that we are being left behind in Europe. The UK is one of the most active contributors to the debate on the Convention on the Future of Europe, a debate which is shaping a constitution designed to set out, for the first time in one clear and accessible doccument, the structure and policies of the EU.

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by monocrat
Second question:

Is a European rapid reaction force still on the agenda?

If so, isn't it possible that this would conflict with NATO? Why is there a need for an extra tier of defence?

The European Security and Defence Policy (ESDP) is designed to permit EU nations to act together militarily and to reinforce their contribution to NATO. It does not amount to a standing rapid reaction force, but would draw on a pool of EU national forces from which the EU can draw to conduct a range of crisis management tasks, from rescue missions to peace-keeping operations.


ESDP began its first civilian crisis management operation in Bosnia in January 2003, with police officers from all EU countries helping train the local police forces in Bosnia. It is due to conduct its first military operation in Macedonia later this Spring.


ESDP is not a rival to NATO for a number of reasons. For example, ESDP's job description, set out at the Nice European Council, provides that ESDP will be used only "where NATO as a whole is not engaged". Nor does ESDP get involved in territorial defence, which remains for NATO alone.

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by Aladdin
Third question:
Given the US' reluctance and the UN's apparent inability to deal with the issue, is it time for the EU to adopt a more pro-active role in seeking a solution for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?

The EU is playing a pro-active role through its membership of the Quartet (EU, US, UN and Russia) which is the key international mechanism for bringing the parties together to move forward to a just and final settlement.

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by Jacqueline the Ripper


Is it in the field of the EU at all?

And is England relations to the US in a higher prority, than the relations with the rest of the EU?

How committed are England to the EU at all, given the decline of the Euro, and the "isolation" among the other EU countries?

We're not in the habit of ranking our allies. Our relations with the EU are crucial, but so too is our relationship with the United States. It is not a question of choosing between them. The UK is totally commited to the EU. 3 million jobs in the UK are tied to our trade with the EU. The single European market means we attract one fifth of all investment into Europe. Goods and services are cheaper because of Europe. Travel is easier and cheaper. We are better able to fight crime and terrorism because of the EU. And our global influence, whether in trade talks or in the World Summit on Sustainable Development, is greater because we are part of the EU. When you look at it like that, you can see why we're totally committed to Europe.

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by Toadborg
1. Do you see that there will be any long-term damage in relatioins between Britain and Europe from the current differences over the Iraqi crisis.


2. Do you think this issue has highlighted any deeper ideological differencesover the conduct of foreign policy, particularly with France and Germany?

A1. Iraq is one issue on which EU members do not agree. But we must not let that obscure those many issues on which we do agree. For example, in the Balkans and in Afghanistan, Member States have worked together closely to build peaceful countries from war torn ones. I don't want to play-down the seriousness of Iraq, but we must remember that there are other issues in the world on which EU Member States work together closely and constructively.

A2. I think it is important to focus on what we agree on. We agree on the primacy of international law as set down in the UN Charter. It is that system of international law which has prevented the same kind of catastrophic global conflict that spread destruction in Europe twice in the last century

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by BumbleBee
Can you tell me anything about a European stance on the environment? How does the Kyoto agreement effect Europe?

The EU is a key player in global environmental negotiations. Within the EU, regulations have meant cleaner beaches, cleaner rivers and cleaner drinking water. As a Union, we negotiate on behalf of all our Member States in global environmental summits. We were a key player in the Kyoto negotiations and helped to secure an agreement which will see an overall reduction in greenhouse emissions by 2010.

[carlito]

As a member of a "socialist party," do you personally believe that The European Union is a device to genuinely improve working conditions and the general quality of life for the the citizens of the world, or a plot to form a strategic superpower to rival the United States? If the second one is (even partially) true, who will end up the overlord?

Does the EU have any plans for substantial international development, particulary Africa and the third world?

and you get a big :thumb: from me for this, its really cool!

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by Brian Kitten
I'm from Fraserburgh, the most fisheries-dependent town in Europe, and the recent EU quota impositions are turning this once lively community into a ghost towns. The same can be said for Peterhead, the largest white fish port in Europe.

Fishing is in the blood for everyone in the North-East of Scotland, and whenever I go back home, I see more shops boarded up, and the local economy (including my parent's business) suffering.

Do you agree that a long-term package of aid from the EU for such affected towns is the way ahead, and do you agree that this is a flaw in the EU system that local people do not appreciate their livelehoods being dictated by men in suits in Brussels, and that better consultation with local fisheries leaders has to take place in the future, when quota cuts are decided ??

Brian, 19



I understand why so many people don't like quota cuts, because it means less fish and, for fishermen, less income. But we cannot afford to take a short-term view. Simply speaking, there are too many boats and not enough fish. If we fished without quotas, our fishstocks would be damaged, perhaps irreparably. Long-term, that would mean no fishermen at all. The CFP is designed to provide an environmentally sustainable level of fishing which is also economically sound. As for men in suits in Brussels, the British Government has played a role in the discussions about reforming the CFP, and we consulted widely in the community as we were devising our negotiating position.

[piccolo]

Good afternoon, :wave:

This question is geared somewhat towards the AS Level Government and Politics (UK) syllabus, I'd be interested to hear your views.

How important do you consider the laws of the European Union to be as a source of the UK's constitution?

Yours,

"Piccolo"

[Man Of Kent]

Can I ask something?

Did you look at the other thread?

I know that you have other fish to fry (sorry Brian) and that you cannot find time to answer all questions instantly, but there are a fair few over there.

Also can I just add the following:

1. You refer to the equity of the EU, with each nation state anving an equal say. But is this really democratic? Should a country with a population the size of Eire have equal votes to one of say France?

2. If we (the EU members) agreed on the Balkans issue, why did it take so long for us to intervene and why is there such concern over France's links with Serbia?

3. Funnily enough, I do agree with you on the fishy question.

[monocrat]

Supranationalism may be an inherent aspect of membership of the EU, but is there any feasible way in which it can be lessened?

[RoyalSubject]

How did the free-trade agreement that the British people voted for turn into the EU as it is now, A greedy, expensive tool used to cripple British industry by pertaining to the countries with poor economies?

Why have sanctions not been imposed on Spain for her treatment of Gibralter?

Why were countries who did not measure up to EMU regulations on economy allowed to join the EMU?

[Simbelyne]

Originally posted by Europe_Minister

I think it is important to focus on what we agree on. We agree on the primacy of international law as set down in the UN Charter. It is that system of international law which has prevented the same kind of catastrophic global conflict that spread destruction in Europe twice in the last century



But we do not agree according to your leader who has said that, in defiance of Kofi Annan and many other lawyers, he will go to war without a second resolution! That is illegal under the UN charter - we are not going in self-defence, merely in self-interest. I assume you will be on the payroll vote for the govt. if there is one in the commons so how canyou justify an illegal war?

[Susie]

Hello all

To save confusion on the constant referral between the two threads I have merged the two together, all your posts will still be here though so don't worry.

Hope that helps a bit

Susie :)

[Bri-namite]

Originally posted by Europe_Minister


I understand why so many people don't like quota cuts, because it means less fish and, for fishermen, less income. But we cannot afford to take a short-term view. Simply speaking, there are too many boats and not enough fish. If we fished without quotas, our fishstocks would be damaged, perhaps irreparably. Long-term, that would mean no fishermen at all. The CFP is designed to provide an environmentally sustainable level of fishing which is also economically sound. As for men in suits in Brussels, the British Government has played a role in the discussions about reforming the CFP, and we consulted widely in the community as we were devising our negotiating position.

Thanks for replying.

I think it's hard for me to have a balanced view on the matter, seeing as A) My dad is one of the "local fishermens leaders" I talk of, and B) Whatever the deal on aid/decommisioning was, it would never likely satisfy the local community.

But yes, a balanced deal is what is really needed in the long term, and it does mean cuts for fishermen in the short term. It looks like the reforming of the CFP is a positive way ahead (although the widely held view is that Elliot Morley is not as competent as he should be, and didn't get perhaps the best deal that could have been achieved).

Tony Blair is due to visit the local areas affected in the near future (war permitting of course), and hopefully he will see for himself what the cuts have done to the local community. It's maybe a bit of a pity Mr Morley didn't take such an active role before the cuts were imposed at Christmas time.

Thanks for your time :)

[Samuti]

Good afternoon.

As both a resident in Gibraltar, (born and bred) and a student in the United Kingdom, I would like to know your views on the Gibraltar situation. Do you forsee an inevitable deal with Spain where sovereignty will be shared, or even handed over to Spain, or is the current Government going to support Gibraltar and the democratically expressed wishes of the people? Why were discussions even entered into in the first place?

Thank you for your time.

[Eul Grepus]

Originally posted by Eul Grepus
Good Afternoon,

As both a resident in Gibraltar, and a student in the United Kingdom, I would like to know your views on the Gibraltar situation. Do your forsee an inevitable deal with Spain where sovereignty will be shared, or even handed over to Spain, or is the current Government going to support Gibraltar and it's people on their views?

I look forward to your reponse


Originally posted by Samuti
Good afternoon.

As both a resident in Gibraltar, (born and bred) and a student in the United Kingdom, I would like to know your views on the Gibraltar situation. Do you forsee an inevitable deal with Spain where sovereignty will be shared, or even handed over to Spain, or is the current Government going to support Gibraltar and the democratically expressed wishes of the people? Why were discussions even entered into in the first place?

Thank you for your time.


Can anyone else see the similarities??? im sorry, but something fishy is going on here!! Samuti, why have you ripped off my post?

[Samuti]

Sorry, I meant to put a little note at the bottom saying it was yours. I just wanted it to be noticed. Sorryyyyy :( ;(

[Toadborg]

Originally posted by Europe_Minister




I don't think that we are being left behind in Europe. The UK is one of the most active contributors to the debate on the Convention on the Future of Europe, a debate which is shaping a constitution designed to set out, for the first time in one clear and accessible doccument, the structure and policies of the EU.

Thankyou for replying.

I think the idea for a constitution is a good one, but as you say this is a debate. Although the UK is a major contributor to such debates it is actions that count in the end.

If Germany, France and Belgium decide to step up the level of integration then does that leave the UK behind given that we are already behind in terms of the Euro.

Is it fair that if (as you suggest) the UK govt objects to a higher teir that other countries should be held back by the obstinance of the British public.......?

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by Man Of Kent
I want to steer clear of Iraq because there are plenty of questions about that already and, to be honest, I would prefer if the Minister for Europe was talking about Europe directly. Now, if Jack Straw was here...


1. Anyway, my first question is simple: How does the EU enhance the democratic process? Will the Euro improve that, or make no difference.?

2. Why should the UK vote to change their currency with all of the resultant harmonisation issues that brings?

3. Oh, and in your lead in statement you give several examples of things that have happened over the past few years, are you suggesting that these happened because of the EU? (eg is the reduction in Airfares thanks to the EU or thanks to people like Stelios)

Okay, bugger this, I'm going for the big ones now:

4. Given the recent events regarding Iraq (okay, I know I said I wouldn't mention it), the problems encountered over Kosovo, the lack of action in the Balkans, French support for Rwanda and Zimbabwe, how can we claim to be a "united" Europe? How would an EU foreign policy work, given the different approaches favoured by member states? What is the point of a Rapid Reaction Force, when we cannot agree on what action needs to be taken? Again I am thinking about the Balkans here, and recent issues over Turkey...

5. Do you believe that Jaques Chirac was right when he referred to the EU as a "Club" and that the rules of this club should be adhered to by all? If this club has rules, why don't they apply to France (notably over beef), how did the EU support the UK when this was happening?

6. Is the CAP a huge waste of taxpayers money, if not how can you justify it?

7. How does the EU justify spending an huge amount of money moving from Brussels to Strasborg every year, and why does this move take place?

That will do for now, I'm sure I will think of more later...

A1. A. By enhancing the influence of Member States who choose to pool their sovereignty, the EU gives a greater, more influential voice to citizens of those Member States. As well as national governments representing their citizens in the Council, the European Parliament gives individual constituencies a voice on the European stage. We need more transparency. The Euro means everyone can compare prices on the same basis.

A2. The political case is strong. Now we have to judge whether it is in our economic interest. That’s what the Treasury’s five tests, due to be completed in June, are set to find out.

A3. When it comes to airfares, I do think that the EU process of deregulation allowed budget airlines to flourish. I love to use Easyjet and Ryannair and they help bring Europe together. That process of freeing up markets, which allows entrepreneurs to expand and develop new markets and new services by removing barriers, is one of the UK’s priorities in Europe. This week Tony Blair will meet his European colleagues in Brussels for a summit to discuss that process of economic reform. We agreed in 2000 in Lisbon to try and make the EU the most dynamic, knowledge-based economy in the world by 2010. It’s a tough target. But we have been making some progress, at least in agreeing the legislation - boosting competition, research and innovation - that may make it happen.

A4. No one claims that we instinctively agree on every issue. Different member states have different histories and as a result different outlooks. What matters is that, for the most part, we can discuss our different views on a whole host of issues and agree a common European position. That doesn’t mean a single European foreign policy, but a common one where the EU agrees to act together where it can.

A5. If it is a club, it is not an exclusive one. The enlargement of the EU has shown that. But it is a unique institution and it does have its own rules. In a way the Commission is the bouncer. That doesn’t mean that if you break the rules the Commission breaks your knees. It’s often called the Guardian of the Treaties because its job is to make sure that directives are implemented and that states obey the rules they’ve agreed to. And those rules do apply to France. To take your example, the Court agreed to impose penalties on France for maintaining its ban on British beef after the veterinary experts had declared it safe. In the end, those penalties were never applied because the French lifted the ban. But the tough action by the Court and the Commission helped convince France to lift their ban.

A6. The CAP does some important things. It ensures that there’s a level playing field for farmers wherever they are in the EU. It also protects farmers from price fluctuations. But we do want to see it reformed, and we’re in the middle of negotiations to get that reform underway. We want to reform the system of direct payments (where farmers get paid to produce animals, or crops) and transfer spend more on the broader economy of rural areas, including for example tourism. We also want environmental protection to be a more prominent feature of a reformed CAP. And we want the EU market opened up to agricultural imports from developing countries, a market that is very difficult to sell in to unless you’re a European farmer.

A7. The European Parliament moves between three different sites (Strasbourg, Brussels and Luxembourg). This strange system was agreed by the six founder Members of the EU, and dates from well before the United Kingdom joined what was then the EEC. The British Government and many UK MEPs agree that this splitting of sites is far from ideal, but to change it we’d need the unanimous support of the 15 Member States. Unfortunately, we do not think that such unanimity is likely in the foreseeable future.

[JulianHale]

Dear Dr McShane,

I have four questions, which I will try to keep brief and to the point.

1) With a first assessment of Gordon Brown's five economic tests due on June 7th, when would you say is the earliest 'possible' date for a referendum on the euro and when is the earliest 'realistic' date for such a referendum? My interest in the euro is that I wrote my research dissertation for a Masters (at Bath, Siena and Madrid universities) on this issue.

2) What events do you have planned for Europe Day this year?

3) As a linguist (as I note you are), I would be very interested to hear what innovations are being considered (in addition to the brilliant idea of the poems on the London Underground) to break down the language barrier between mainland Europe and the UK. I am referring in particular to my belief that the British public's general lack of interest in what is happening in mainland European countries is partly due to this language barrier.

4) What is your view of France's position during the Iraq crisis, especially their decision to veto any 2nd UN resolution "whatever the circumstances". Do you think their position was justified in any way?

Apologies if my questions are too long but I would be very interested to hear your answers. I would also like to add how much appreciate this opportunity for discussion on an range of issues that are so often (relatively) neglected in the media. And where they are discussed, so often negatively - Anderson and Weymouth's "Insulting the British public" makes interesting reading in this context.

Many thanks,
Julian

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by Captain Slog
While I agree the common market is a good thing, I do believe the EU is getting too powerful.

Take, for instance, the banning of selling goods in imperial weights. This is an interfering peice of EU legislation which achieves nothing and can, in fact, make criminals out of older people for no better reason than not being able to understand these new-fangled metric weights.

I would like to see a broader, shallower EU. One that takes in more countries, but lets them run their own affairs up to a point. I do not want a close knit "community" that ties its members together tightly with chafing legislation.


Harmonising, to take your example, the system of weights, is part of the process of creating a single market. In a single market, there should be no barriers to selling in any of the EU countries. The same is true for quality standards. By agreeing a common standard it allows all manufacturers to sell on an equal basis in a single market. And that same single market offers consumers a wider, better choice of goods. A quick glance at the internet is proof of that.

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by Simbelyne
How long before we join the Euro? It seems stupid to isolate ourselves from the EU by not joining...


As I said above, it depends on the outcome of the five tests which the Treasury is conducting and which are due to be completed in June. We need to get the economics right but the Euro is here to stay and we want it to succeed.

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by ebb
I have one real question, do you believe that the long term future of the EU is secure ? The memebers of the EU have a history of war, suspicion and dare I say it hatred :eek: Take the anglo-French relationship for example, there you have two of the EU 'superpowers', yet the bad feeling between the respective populations aren't the sort of sentiments you'd expect to sustain a last in realtionship from, such conflicts can be found throughout the EU. You only have to look at the variety of stances over Iraq to realise nobody in the EU is batting for the same team. Whilst at present the EU does work to an extent, is it not only a matter of time before the whole idea becomes one big schoool playground ? With minimal trust and the formation of mini-alliances and the resulting back stabbing ?

Just as a quick second question, do you think Tony Blairs ultimate objective is to be the president of the United States of Europe ? If so, is the current situation with Iraq likley to damamge his chances ?

Yes I do think that the long term future of the EU is secure. Sixty years ago the continent was at war; just fifteen years ago it was divided by the Iron Curtain. That seems a distant memory now. I honestly think that we are getting better at working together all the time. That doesn’t stop us disagreeing on some issues, like Iraq. We are all, after all, vibrant democracies, where such disagreements are part of the daily fabric of political life. You can’t say the same for Iraq, by the way. And in a body of 15, soon 25 members it is inevitable that countries band together to pursue certain policy objectives. We do that all the time in domestic politics. We shouldn’t be surprised to see it happening in the EU.

As for your second question, I think you’d need to ask the Prime Minister!

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by carlito
As a member of a "socialist party," do you personally believe that The European Union is a device to genuinely improve working conditions and the general quality of life for the the citizens of the world, or a plot to form a strategic superpower to rival the United States? If the second one is (even partially) true, who will end up the overlord?

Does the EU have any plans for substantial international development, particulary Africa and the third world?

and you get a big :thumb: from me for this, its really cool!


Yes, I do believe that the EU genuinely improves the working conditions and the general quality of life for its citizens. I’ll give you one example. The process of economic reform we undertook at Lisbon in 2000 has created five million jobs across the EU. That has a positive impact not just on those people with the jobs, but on their families and their communities. Employees - especially women - have many more rights in the EU than elsewhere in the world.

No, to the second part of your question. We should be enhancing our partnership with the US, not trying to stoke a rivalry that shouldn’t exist. We have too many interests and values in common to waste our time on that.

As for international development, the EU already has an enormous aid programme, which works in parallel and in co-operation with national development programmes throughout the world, including in Africa.

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by piccolo
Good afternoon, :wave:

This question is geared somewhat towards the AS Level Government and Politics (UK) syllabus, I'd be interested to hear your views.

How important do you consider the laws of the European Union to be as a source of the UK's constitution?

Yours,

"Piccolo"

Well I cannot write your essay for you, but obviously in today's world laws on commerce, on the environment and on human rights are agreed at an international level. That's the same in the EU and it means we in Britain can share EU laws that impact on Europe. Tell me what you think...

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by Man Of Kent
Can I ask something?

Did you look at the other thread?

I know that you have other fish to fry (sorry Brian) and that you cannot find time to answer all questions instantly, but there are a fair few over there.

Also can I just add the following:

1. You refer to the equity of the EU, with each nation state anving an equal say. But is this really democratic? Should a country with a population the size of Eire have equal votes to one of say France?

2. If we (the EU members) agreed on the Balkans issue, why did it take so long for us to intervene and why is there such concern over France's links with Serbia?

3. Funnily enough, I do agree with you on the fishy question.


On your first question, no it shouldn’t. Ireland doesn’t have the same voting weight as France. When it comes to Member States voting on issues, the EU has a system called Qualified Majority Voting. Under that system, each Member State has a certain number of votes. That system reflects the different sizes of those states. For example Ireland has three and France has 10. The exact number of votes each state has will change next year when the EU enlarges to include another 10 states.

We now have a common position on the Balkans, but we had to work hard to develop that common position. It took a lot of negotiation. That’s why it took time for the EU to act. But I think that what the EU has done over the last eight years in the Balkans is a real success story: building peace and democracy amidst the ruins of war and ethnic hatred. We should be proud of that.

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by monocrat
Supranationalism may be an inherent aspect of membership of the EU, but is there any feasible way in which it can be lessened?


It really depends on what you mean by supranationalism and whether you think that it’s a bad thing. The Member States agree to pool their sovereignty on certain issues because there is an advantage to Member States from doing that. Two examples are immigration and agriculture, where by sharing sovereignty on those issues we are better off than if we dealt with them individually. If it benefits us all, why should we lessen it?

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by RoyalSubject
How did the free-trade agreement that the British people voted for turn into the EU as it is now, A greedy, expensive tool used to cripple British industry by pertaining to the countries with poor economies?

Why have sanctions not been imposed on Spain for her treatment of Gibralter?

Why were countries who did not measure up to EMU regulations on economy allowed to join the EMU?


I think you’re absolutely wrong about the EU’s impact on British industry. I represent a constituency in which heavy industry is vital, and I know how crucial access to EU markets is for those industries.

Why haven’t we imposed sanctions on Gibraltar? Because they are a NATO ally, a fellow EU member state and a friend, with whom we can resolve our differences with negotiation and discussion and without resorting to sanctions.

[Kermit]

Originally posted by Europe_Minister
Why haven’t we imposed sanctions on Gibraltar?

That wasnt quite the question, minister. the question was, why have we not taken steps to protect a sovereign nation from bullying and intimidation by another sovereign nation, as the Government seems to claim it is doing in the Middle East. as a side-issue, why is the Government ignoring the will of the Gibraltans, and ignoring democracy, whilst it is claiming to defend it in Iraq?

[JulianHale]

Dear Dr McShane,

I just wondered if you had seen my four questions posted earlier today (at around 5 or 6pm)? Very much enjoying reading your answers to the various questions and looking forward to hearing what you have to say as regards my questions.

Julian Hale

[Europe_Minister]

Hello again and many thanks to you all for your continued involvment in this Europe discussion. Over the past week, I have been delighted by the high level of interest show in the exercise, and the broad range and probing nature of the many questions raised.

Unfortunately my diary has become victim to the current fast-moving pace of foreign affairs today - and I will now be travelling to Brussels and therefore unable to attend the live session in person. However, I look forward to continuing my involvement in this discussion through to the 24th March as planned - and urge you all to continue sending in your questions and thoughts on any of the replies I have posted during the week. I will aim to answer as many as I can by Monday.

[Toadborg]

Good luck sorting out the mess.............

[Man Of Kent]

Many thanks for your answers. Can I also contragulate you for avoiding the politico-speak we are used to hearing from the Labour front bench. It's nice to feel like we are being treated with a little respect...

1. Re: Gilbraltar. You said that we would negotiate with Spain on the issue. Why should we when the Gilbraltans have overwealmingly stated their position? Surely the Govt has a duty to represent their views...

2. Our delay over action in the Blakans cost hundreds of lives, yet you seem to think of the outcome of the delays as a success, I see the delay as a disgrace. Doesn't the delays cause by the EU in making any decisions (generally) give you cause for concern?

3. " By enhancing the influence of Member States who choose to pool their sovereignty, the EU gives a greater, more influential voice to citizens of those Member States."

How does my voice get louder in a place where there are more voices to be heard?

"The Euro means everyone can compare prices on the same basis."

Not really, not whilst tax rates differ - i.e. Direct/indirect taxation

The political case is strong.

What is it then? What political reasons are there to integrate our economy?

"That doesn’t mean a single European foreign policy, but a common one where the EU agrees to act together where it can."

Not going to happen very often then, is it? ;)

But seriously, what is the difference between a single forign policy for the EU and a common one - isn't that just semantics?

"To take your example, the Court agreed to impose penalties on France for maintaining its ban on British beef after the veterinary experts had declared it safe. In the end, those penalties were never applied"

Even though UK businesses had lost out in the interim? Was the no financial aid following the French decision to extend the ban further than the EU advice?

"The European Parliament moves between three different sites (Strasbourg, Brussels and Luxembourg). .... Unfortunately, we do not think that such unanimity is likely in the foreseeable future."

Why not? What possible reason do people have not to vote for this?

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by Toadborg
Do you think that Britain can be at the centre of the European community without establishing the Euro.

Do you realistically believe that the govt can win a referendum on the Euro during this term of office given that opinion polls tend to show some hostility to the idea........

Absolutely. Take the Convention. We are right in the middle of the debate that is shaping the future shape of the Union. There is no more important debate at the moment and we are playing a central role in proposing ideas and looking for constructive solutions to complex issues.

With regards to the euro; if the five economic tests are met, that shows that it is in the country's economic interests to join the euro. The British people will make up their minds on the basis of what is best for the country and the economy. People are rational and will be pursuaded if the economic argument is made.

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by ATTARTI
Greetings from Athens.
One simple question for you:Do you think that USA will eventually attack Iraq even if the whole world protest against this war???And if yes how will this effect EU in general and each country more specific?

Thank you in advance.

I think we know the answer to the first part of your question now. Of course it's had an impact on the EU because different member states have disagreed about how to handle Iraq. But let’s not forget that the EU has a far longer history than the Iraq crisis. There are plenty more issues on which we agree, and on which we continue to work very closely.

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by Murph the Surf
Greetings,

My questions are about the present Iraq Chrisis.

How will the UK's support of America affect its relationship with other members of the EU, specifically France and Germany?

How will the present Iraq Chrisis affect Europe's relationship with the Americans?

What do you think the long term effects will be following any war in Iraq?

I think I've covered the point about how the Iraq crisis might affect relations with France, Germany and America elsewhere and I'm always wary of repeating myself!

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by amirab
Dear Minister,

My question is regarding the situation of Iraq, if certain countries do strike on Iraq will the EU back Iraq or the opposing side?

Also I wondering if in case of a war, do u in your opinion beileve that other countries in the Middle East will be affected or not?

On behalf of myself and other members of this forum i would like to thank you for dedicating your precious time to give us a better understanding of todays world happenings.

Let's be clear. We have differed with some EU partners over the process by which we disarm Iraq. There is no disagreement about the necessity to disarm Iraq. There is no question of any EU partners backing Iraq.

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by Man Of Kent


I have something to add to that...

Do you think that theslow movement toward a federal european state is motivated by self interest on behalf of politicians - a chance to get in the history books or to become the leader of a huge state?

Do you think that it is motivated by greed - the quest for bigger profits - on behalf of business?

It really brings me back to the - how is the EU an enhancement to democracy? Personally, I believe that this should be the motivation, I just struggle to see how a further level of Government actually achieves that aim. We have Local Politicians to address local issues and we have national politicians to address national and international issues, so where does the EU fit in?

I'm detecting some cynicism. We are not moving towards a federal European state, not in the sense that you mean. I think for you it implies centralisation. Federal does not mean centralised, it means that power is exercised at the level which is most effective. We choose to pool our sovereignty - our sole right to act as a sovereign State - in some areas because it is more effective to do so. That doesn't mean that on all occasions, over all issues, we think it is appropriate to act as 15 (or soon to be 25) Member States.

There may be politicians who act out of self-interest. That isn't our motivation. We believe that it is in the interests of the British people to be a members of the EU. And yes, it is in the interests of business. They get access to the entire EU market, which post-enlargement will be 450 million people, larger than the US and Japanese markets combined. You call that greed. But without profitable companies, what would happen to employment? Profitable companies employ people. Put simply, the EU means business and jobs.

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by Toadborg


Thankyou for replying.

I think the idea for a constitution is a good one, but as you say this is a debate. Although the UK is a major contributor to such debates it is actions that count in the end.

If Germany, France and Belgium decide to step up the level of integration then does that leave the UK behind given that we are already behind in terms of the Euro.

Is it fair that if (as you suggest) the UK govt objects to a higher teir that other countries should be held back by the obstinance of the British public.......?

Three countries out of 15 (soon to be 25) do not dictate the pace of integration to the whole. The reason the EU has gone through tremendous changes, whether they be enlargement or deeper integration, and continues to thrive, is because we have proceeded on the basis of negotiation, discussion and consensus.

We're not holding countries back. Take your example of the euro. The UK was not ready to join the EMU at the same time as the Euro 11, but we did not stand in their way. They proceeded as a group of eleven, but it was with the agreement of the other member states who didn't choose to join.

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by JulianHale
Dear Dr McShane,

I have four questions, which I will try to keep brief and to the point.

1) With a first assessment of Gordon Brown's five economic tests due on June 7th, when would you say is the earliest 'possible' date for a referendum on the euro and when is the earliest 'realistic' date for such a referendum? My interest in the euro is that I wrote my research dissertation for a Masters (at Bath, Siena and Madrid universities) on this issue.

2) What events do you have planned for Europe Day this year?

3) As a linguist (as I note you are), I would be very interested to hear what innovations are being considered (in addition to the brilliant idea of the poems on the London Underground) to break down the language barrier between mainland Europe and the UK. I am referring in particular to my belief that the British public's general lack of interest in what is happening in mainland European countries is partly due to this language barrier.

4) What is your view of France's position during the Iraq crisis, especially their decision to veto any 2nd UN resolution "whatever the circumstances". Do you think their position was justified in any way?

Apologies if my questions are too long but I would be very interested to hear your answers. I would also like to add how much appreciate this opportunity for discussion on an range of issues that are so often (relatively) neglected in the media. And where they are discussed, so often negatively - Anderson and Weymouth's "Insulting the British public" makes interesting reading in this context.

Many thanks,
Julian

1) The Treasury's National Changeoever Plan, published in 1999, said that the UK could join 24-30 months after a referendum. As for the earliest possible date for a referendum, that really depends on a number of issues, not least the outcome of the tests.

2) There's lots happening around the country for Europe Day:

- 5 May: 'On-air' - radio DJ's across the country will be celebrating Europe all week with a range of competitions, interviews and discussion on our 30 years in the EU and the future new EU.

- 8 May: Borders bookstore (Charing Cross, London) will host a display of some of the greatest books from the current and future member states. I will open the display and take part an audience discussion with a panel of European authors and literary commentators. The exhibition will run for 3 weeks.

- 10 May: Asda ' a Taste of new Europe' Asda hyper-stores across the country will celebrate Europe Day with a display of food, drink and information on new Europe.

- May: A number of towns across the UK will mark their 30th anniversary of twinning with towns from across Europe with special programmes, exchanges and activities (e.g. 9 May, Aberystwyth, twinned with St Brieuc in France).

3) I couldn't agree with you more: being able to speak a foreign language gives you a wonderful insight into another culture. The Department for Education and Skills are determined to improve language learning across the country. They recently published a strategy called "Languages for Life: Languages for All - a strategy for England". It can be viewed at www.dfes.gov.uk/languagesstrategy. The paper sets out how important it is for every pupil to have the opportunity to study at least one foreign language at school - ideally a European language. SOCRATES, the European programme for education, has done a lot to promote language learning throughout Europe. It arranges study trips abroad for those in school education (the Comenius programme), higher education (the Erasmus programme), adult education (the Grundtvig programme), and for those learning and teaching European languages (the Lingua programme). Around 10,000 UK students each year participate in the Erasmus programme. Since it started in 1987 over a million students have taken part.

4) We have made no secret of the fact that we take different views on how to disarm Iraq, but the time has come to move on now that the diplomatic efforts to agree a 2nd second resolution have finished. It’s true that those efforts were made more difficult by the threat of a French veto. But disagreements do not define a relationship.

[Europe_Minister]

Originally posted by Kermit


That wasnt quite the question, minister. the question was, why have we not taken steps to protect a sovereign nation from bullying and intimidation by another sovereign nation, as the Government seems to claim it is doing in the Middle East. as a side-issue, why is the Government ignoring the will of the Gibraltans, and ignoring democracy, whilst it is claiming to defend it in Iraq?

Our objective has always been to reach an agreement that offered the prospect of a secure, stable and prosperous future for Gibraltaraians. I believe that dialogue between the key parties concerned is the best way to secure such an agreement.

Far from ignoring democracy - as the Prime Minister, the Foreign Secretary and myself have all stated on numerous occasions - a referendum on any agreed proposals remains central to our approach and the decision therefore ultimately rests with the people of Gibraltar.

[Europe_Minister]

...to all of you who asked questions and those of you who have been following this discussion. It's been great fun debating these issues with you.

I've been especially pleased with the range of questions people are interested in - not just the obvious, big issues of the day, but other important issues like Gibraltar, languages, agriculture and fisheries, and questions of identity and diversity. It's hugely reassuring for me to know that there are people out there who are interested in Europe and the UK's role and, more importantly, willing to engage in debate and discussion.

The EU is incredibly important to our future. We need discussion and debate in our own country so that we can engage confidently and positively in Europe.

Thank you again.


If you would like more information on Britain and the EU please visit www.europe.gov.uk.

[Toadborg]

Thankyou for spending some of time here to talk to us, it has been very interesting........

[Dom]

So that's a wrap then.

Thanks to all - the Minister and those with the questions - for making this such an excellent exercise.

Hopefully this will be the first of many sessions we'll have with people with interesting jobs or interesting things to say.

Dom

[Aladdin]

Thanks to Dr MacShane, and congratulations to TheSite for the scoop.

Any chance of gettng Mr Blair online any time soon? ;)

[Toadborg]

Saddam Hussein?

[Man Of Kent]

Originally posted by Europe_Minister
I'm detecting some cynicism.

What me?

*looks around futively, tries not to act suspiciously*

You missed the point about Gibraltar though. They've already held their own referendum. Just because the UK/Spanish Govts don't like the outcome doesn't mean that it should be ignored...

Anyway, thanks for stopping by. Shame this couldn't be a regular thing with members of the Govt having access. It would certainly increase your user profile Dom, and the Govt would at least get a sense of public opinion that focus groups won't give...

[Susie]

Hey guys

Send your suggestions of who you would like us to try and get in for a chat (and no they don't all have to be politicians) to me, susie@thesite.org and also let me know how you think this session went

Cheers

Susie :)