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Arctic Roll
21-02-2011, 03:05 PM
Does anyone else use them?

Madam has jst outgrown her size 1's and I am after suggestions/recommendations for size 2's before I purchase.

For her size 1's we used a mixture of terry towelling squares, Mio Bambinos, Motherease wraps and Eccobot bamboo nappies and fleece wraps.

SuzyCreamcheese
21-02-2011, 03:07 PM
i used them on all of my babies, for at least some time. Exclusively on my eldest, and for a little while on the other two (but couldnt keep up with the washing when i had 2 in nappies at the same time)

My favourite were always tots bots. Nippa version. Motherease wraps

do you have a tumble dryer?

Hellfire
21-02-2011, 03:18 PM
Just sent the wife this way, she knows more about cloth than what I consider healthy

SuzyCreamcheese
21-02-2011, 03:20 PM
if you have a tumble dryer, then you have more options.
If you dont, then i would use a microfible nappy, such as totsbots fluffles. They dry super quickly and are gorgeous and fluffy. A bit more bulky though, but i never minded that

SuzyCreamcheese
21-02-2011, 03:23 PM
oh, it seems fluffles have been discontinued for some reason

SuzyCreamcheese
21-02-2011, 03:26 PM
right. Is she a heavy wetter? Does she do runny poos? have you got a tumble dryer? Theyre the main questions

SuzyCreamcheese
21-02-2011, 03:28 PM
ive heard good things about the itti bitti d'lish

http://www.peachytots.co.uk/index.cfm/toddlers/Products.List/category_id/101/snap-in-one-nappies/-?gclid=CJmb_bLVmacCFcomfAod_CubbQ

http://www.twinkleontheweb.co.uk/acatalog/details-02BOO.html

Lolzabeth
21-02-2011, 03:31 PM
I use eBay cheapies with Little Lamb bamboo inserts and I swear by them.
The nappies are £40 for 10 and come with a microfibre insert. The LL boosters are £12 for 10.

Here's the link for the nappies - Here (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/10-U-PICK-AIO-BABY-CLOTH-DIAPER-1-SIZE-10-INSERTS-/290461097985?pt=UK_Baby_Baby_Changing_Nappies_LE&hash=item43a0d4a001)

They are from china but they come pretty quick. You can get them here from the UK for a little bit more. http://www.tinynippers.co.uk/

SuzyCreamcheese
21-02-2011, 03:36 PM
i could never get on with AIOs, I found they didnt contain well at the legs with only one layer of defence against runny shit, and take longer to dry. Some people do swear by them though, and men tend to like them cos ive never met a man who could cope with two piece nappies

That is a very good price though

Scary Monster
21-02-2011, 03:43 PM
My mind is completely boggling.

I don't think I knew that anyone really used non disposable nappies. For some weird reason I'm now really interested.

(and off to try and work out how on earth a two piece nappy works).

katralla
21-02-2011, 03:50 PM
I used disposables, seemed much more convenient as I hate doing laundry as it is. Then, some people go in for that ironing malarky too- there's nowt queerer than folk.

Scary Monster
21-02-2011, 03:56 PM
Ironing nappies?!

Surely you'd only iron ones you thought really needed the heat blast to kill off germs?

SuzyCreamcheese
21-02-2011, 04:02 PM
a two piece nappy is just the modern day equivalent of the old terry squares and plastic pants.

Instead of terry squares (which still have their place) There are fitted shaped cloth nappies which are elasticated at the legs and waist and do up with either velcro, poppers, or a little device called a nippa.
You put a liner inside the nappy to keep baby dry and to collect the shit, which you can then just flush away.
You then put a wrap over the top. These are waterproof but breathable and are usually in funky colours and patterns. They do up with velcro or poppers too.

When dirty you just put them in a bucket. dry.
With modern washing machines you dont need to soak the nappies. A wash at 60 and theyre clean and hygenic.

Theyre much much less of a faff than you might think.
Im totally into lazy parenting and even i didnt find it hard, although i did use disposables if i was going out for more than a few hours

Scary Monster
21-02-2011, 04:04 PM
Cunning.

There's a whole exciting world I never knew about out there. This is making babies seem far more interesting.

Lolzabeth
21-02-2011, 04:18 PM
Suzy - the title of the auction is actually confusing. They are pocket nappies so although there is still only one layer to catch poo I have never had a poosplosion with them and they dry super fast. The only bits that don't are the bamboo boosters, which i stick in the dryer.

SuzyCreamcheese
21-02-2011, 04:25 PM
ahhh, pocket nappies are better for sure, and are not too tricky for men and grandparents if you stuff them in advance

Kaff
21-02-2011, 05:40 PM
I use eBay cheapies with Little Lamb bamboo inserts and I swear by them.
The nappies are 40 for 10 and come with a microfibre insert. The LL boosters are 12 for 10.

Here's the link for the nappies - Here (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/10-U-PICK-AIO-BABY-CLOTH-DIAPER-1-SIZE-10-INSERTS-/290461097985?pt=UK_Baby_Baby_Changing_Nappies_LE&hash=item43a0d4a001)

We wanted to use cloth nappies with Superbaby but couldn't afford the initial outlay and then the idea kinda got forgotten about. I don't know why I didn't think about looking on ebay! We haven't got a dryer, but have plenty of radiators to drape things around in the winter, and dry outside in warmer weather.

How many do you need? Do you change the whole nappy every time they need their bum doing, or just the inserts? How do they cope overnight? Are they quite bulky under clothes? I already need to shoehorn Superbaby into her trousers, and that's in disposables!

Sorry for the hijack :heart:

SuzyCreamcheese
21-02-2011, 06:04 PM
if you used those pocket nappies that lolz linked to, youd change the whole thing every change. If you use a two piece system, you just have to change the insert and you can re-use the wrap unless it gets really wet, stinky, or poo on it.
The pocket nappies shouldnt be too bulky, but there are certain brands of trousers that dont fit cloth under, but plenty that do, and of course leggings and tights are fine.
Some nappiers are bulkier than others.
If you want to use them at night, youd bulk the nappy up to cope with it, or get a particularly absorbant nappy. I had different nappies for night than i did for during the day.

If you dont have a tumble dryer, id definitely go for microfibre rather than cotton, hemp or bamboo, because it dries more quickly, and also cotton nappies can go a bit crispy dried on a radiator, like towels can. Never seems to bother babies, especially if you use a fleece liner (fleece acts as a one way wetness barrier) but i always liked nappies to be soft.
I would give these ones a go maybe Kaff
http://www.littlelamb.co.uk/itemdetl.php/itemprcd/MNP5
Motherease wraps are the most leakproof by a country mile
http://www.twinkleontheweb.co.uk/acatalog/details-05POPAFLO.html

and since its you Kaff, there are plenty of patterns floating around t'internet to make your own :)

Lolzabeth
21-02-2011, 06:16 PM
I have about 15 and that just does us with a wash every second day. We have terries for emergencies. Probably 20 would be easier.
At night I stuff them with a small size bambino mio prefold folded in thirds, a microfibre and a small LL bamboo booster at the front (because of the boy bits) but you would probably be fine with a couple of bamboo boosters if you have a dryer or microfibre if you don't.
These ones aren't too bad under clothes. Nowhere near as bad as some I have used in the past. I love these trousers on Gabriel. Mega cute, non-restrictive and fit over cloth perfectly...Here (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Girls-boys-babys-toddlers-animal-leggings-tights-bnwt-/400186588578?pt=Girl_s_Clothing&var=&hash=item9bff6bdc52)

eBay is always my first port of call for anything! lol

Arctic Roll
21-02-2011, 07:55 PM
To answer: she's not a massive wetter, her poos varies wildly between little rabbit pellets and explosive liquid, depending on how much milk she's had, and we don't have a tumble dryer. We mostly dry them on radiators in the winter and the washing line in the summer.

Kaff
22-02-2011, 07:06 AM
Thanks for the info guys :heart:

Just had a ponder about the internet and our local council does a real nappy scheme where you can get free starter packs, so going to try and get my hands on one and go from there!

If we get on with them will pick some more up, or consider making some! Also bookmarked a trouser pattern specially for cloth bummed babies (big butt baby pants - cute!).


I love these trousers on Gabriel. Mega cute, non-restrictive and fit over cloth perfectly...Here (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Girls-boys-babys-toddlers-animal-leggings-tights-bnwt-/400186588578?pt=Girl_s_Clothing&var=&hash=item9bff6bdc52)

I've seen babies in them before! Wondered where they were from. Super adorable :D

SuzyCreamcheese
22-02-2011, 07:26 AM
oooh, what do you get in the starter pack? link?

thats how i got started, although my free starter pack with lenny was prefolds, so i was lucky to get on with them, as not everyone does.

I also got a starter pack with one of the others. I cant remember what was in it, but they werent brilliantly absorbant, but still useful for spares.

Kaff
22-02-2011, 07:32 AM
Link! (http://www.wakefield.gov.uk/Environment/Wasteandrecycling/Recycling/Realnappycampaign/default.htm)

Going to opt for the Pop-In Dream Dri ones, I think. Done a bit of tinternet research and they seem to be good for us sans dryer types!

AR - have a look in your area, apparently most councils have these schemes, and Wakey includes all under twos, so Sod Baby still eligible. You could pick up a freebie or some cashback! :)

SuzyCreamcheese
22-02-2011, 08:11 AM
my main advice is to not just get one type of nappy.
Get a few, because needs change, and also its quite fun having different types to choose from (believe it or not)

Arctic Roll
22-02-2011, 08:30 AM
Newcastle City Council doesn't run the scheme IIRC. Might check again, though.

Jaloux
22-02-2011, 01:14 PM
II love these trousers on Gabriel. Mega cute, non-restrictive and fit over cloth perfectly...Here (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Girls-boys-babys-toddlers-animal-leggings-tights-bnwt-/400186588578?pt=Girl_s_Clothing&var=&hash=item9bff6bdc52)

These are super adorably cute! :heart:

*Aphrodite*
25-02-2011, 08:26 AM
I'm a big lover of pocket nappies, i've used them on and off with both off mine so we've seen a good range of pee amounts and poo varieties over the past few years. All of them are birth to potty apart from the minki ones and i found the large was good from about 6months until 2years (i think it would probably even be ok for my three year old too)

I've used 5 different types:

- Wonderoos: hated them, they always wicked (thank god i only have the one)
- Bum Genius: nice and slim, i didnt like the inserts so i used the old blueberry ones instead (microfibre and hemp)
- Blueberry: my favourite, contains decent amounts of runny/explosive poo's and i can easily use the one size (microfibre and hemp) inserts as well as a bamboo booster. i have managed to use these overnight with the little one who is probably a medium wetter. (also rather slim)
- Wee notions: very cute designs, very reliable and depending on how big the baby is you can sometimes get away with enough stuffing for overnight.
- Minki's: Amazing night time nappy, even the slinki minki can be stuffed enough for Aisha overnight (big wetter), but i HATE their inserts.

Favourite inserts:

- Blueberry one-size hemp and microfibre
- Wee notions: bamboo doublers/booster
- Happy heiny: Large hemp stuffin (yes i know the name is stupid but thats some americans for you), these are great because its a huge hemp insert with a little pocket for a mini hemp insert which totals 5 or 6 layers and make up the main part of night time inserts and then i just put any microfibre insert on top.

I also use the mothercare disposable liners when i'm expecting poo's, mine generally poo on schedule so i dont bother with them for the rest of the day.

I also find these are a million times better if your baby gets sever nappy rash, if that's an issue for you a thin layer of vasogen dried with a cold hair drier and pop in a fleece liner. That was the only thing that cleared up my little ones nappy rashes.

**Summer-Raindrops**
27-02-2011, 01:04 PM
had a nose on my local council website just for future reference as my experience of these was with one child over a year and i found them horrid. i didnt know that there was different types. our council dont do free trial ones, but they have a nappy library where u can borrow some for up to 10days to try.

Kaff
07-03-2011, 03:11 PM
My starter pack arrived today! Got 6 nappies, each with their own little waterproof bag, flushable liners and a bucket. What is missing is instructions, though! Obviously I think I can figure out how to put them on, but I'm a bit in the woods with the rest!

Thank god for google - stupid council.

SuzyCreamcheese
07-03-2011, 03:51 PM
which ones are they kaff. Have you got a link. Or what are they like? I can help

Scary Monster
07-03-2011, 04:22 PM
The bucket goes on the babies head.

Kaff
07-03-2011, 04:37 PM
which ones are they kaff. Have you got a link. Or what are they like? I can help

They're these ones (http://www.clothnappymum.co.uk/popin.html). The dream dri ones, not bamboo.

I think I've figured most of it out thanks to the wonder of the tinternet, but still got a touch of the confusion. Do you reckon I need to wash them before I use them, or are they good to go? What's the deal with boosters? Do you just shove in as many as you need? What is the purpose of the little waterproof bags - just to keep them away from your other stuff when you've changed out and about?

Kaff
07-03-2011, 04:38 PM
The bucket goes on the babies head.

:p

Might be easier if I just put her in it!

SuzyCreamcheese
07-03-2011, 05:05 PM
wash before you use them. If possible wash 2 or 3 times. Dont need to use washing powder every time. They wont reach full absorbancy till after a few washes, like towels

You dont need to wash the outers, but definitely wash the inserts

SuzyCreamcheese
07-03-2011, 05:08 PM
yeah the waterproof bags will be somewhere to store wet ones when out and about

Kaff
08-03-2011, 08:12 AM
Thank you :heart:

Got them in the wash today, so hopefully can take them for a test run tomorrow! :)

SuzyCreamcheese
08-03-2011, 10:41 AM
:)

I think youll be pleasantly surprised

Kaff
11-03-2011, 09:36 PM
We've been test driving them for 2 days and have to say I'm impressed. Haven't tried them overnight yet (need to buy boosters, I think, cause Superbaby is like some kind of pissing machine) but she has treated them to plenty of pee and one epic poo, and not even a sniff of a leak! Just pulled them out of the wash and they've come out sparkling white and practically dry.

Awesome :thumb:

And I found a random Fuzzi Bunz nappy in her size in the clearance section of TK Maxx for 4 squid, so will be trialling that too!

SuzyCreamcheese
11-03-2011, 09:45 PM
hooray. Theyre so much easier than people think

Melian
12-03-2011, 09:49 AM
By the time you include washing, are they cheaper or more expensive than disposables?

Lolzabeth
12-03-2011, 09:53 AM
Sorry, being really lazy not typing this up myself lol

"Are cloth nappies cheaper than disposables?
Cloth nappies are cheaper than disposables. How much cheaper depends on the type you buy and how you wash them.

Your baby will be in nappies for around two and a half years. Using disposables for that time will cost approximately £600.

Cloth nappies will cost around £250 to buy. Washing them over a two and a half year period will cost approximately £80. So the total cost of using reusables is around £330, giving you a saving of around £270. However, if you tumble dry your baby's nappies, you could add an extra £100 or more to your bill.

Where you can really save with cloth nappies is if you plan to have more children. By using your nappies again you dramatically reduce your overall costs. "

Plus they don't sit clogging up landfills for the next 50-100 years. Saving money and the environment, bonus!

Plus you can sell them once you've finished with them making your savings even more.

SuzyCreamcheese
12-03-2011, 11:31 AM
i think disposables over 2 and a half years will cost more than that, depending on the brand you buy.

When I used cloth, I found it MORE reliable against leaks than disposables on average. A good two piece shaped elasticated cloth nappy with a wrap over the top is pretty much bomp proof. Youre much less likely to get a poo-splosion with that. I got them ALL THE TIME with disposables.
I also liked the not having to lug big bags of nappies home from the shops cos i dont drive, and the fact you never run out. I liked the eco-friendliness of it, the cute factor, and then the fact theyre cheaper, although you have more initial outlay, but then youre set. If youre planning on having more than one child, its even cheaper because you can use them all again.

girl with sharp teeth
12-03-2011, 04:00 PM
I've ordered 10 of the mega cheapy chinese pocket nappies you recommended Lolz, as I figure that for the price they'll be fairly economical even if they fall to pieces after a few months, not that I'm expecting them to. I'm hoping that they're quick drying! Will recycle some of the bamboo boosters and Mio Bambino Prefolds as overnight soakers and then with a fleece liner we're hopefully good to go!

The only leaks I've ever had with madam have been when she's been wearing disposables. Ditto with nappy rash. Can't wait for them to arrive now as sick of putting her in smelly disposables. How do people stand the stink in their dustbins? Ours fills up about 5 times as fast when she's not wearing washables.

Melian - we spent about £90 in total on her size 1s plus boosters and have so far spent £37 on her size 2s. As she's such a titch we might well get away without having to fork out again before she's potty trained.

Kaff
13-03-2011, 08:25 PM
Do any of you cloth users also use washable wipes? I'm thinking that it actually might be less hassle than disposable ones, cause at the moment I still need nappy bags and a trip to the bin for my pooey wipes, whereas with washable ones I could just chuck them in the wet bag with the nappy, and they'll all get washed together anyway.

Deffo agree with the leak situation. We stopped using name brand nappies pretty sharpish because of the amount of poo they literally just let slide out, but even with the best I've found (Tesco's own) we get a leak of some kind at least once a day, even when the poo/wee situation seems relatively minor. Have been using my cloths for a few days now and they haven't leaked once. They also seem to smell less when they are poo-filled. I used to know when she needed changing cause I could smell her, but now I need to have a peek in! Yum ;)

SuzyCreamcheese
13-03-2011, 08:31 PM
i tried washable wipes, but got fed up sorting them all out after the wash cos theyre so little. A lot of people are fine with them though

Kaff
13-03-2011, 09:07 PM
I think they'd be pretty quick and easy to make, so might just make a few up and see how I go.

Arctic Roll
14-03-2011, 08:23 AM
We tried using them but they were too much of a faff, truth be told, because it was hard to keep them damp and they always went missing in the wash. They'll be dead easy to make though, ours were just fleecy felt squares basically.

As for disposable nappies, Pampers and Huggies are horrendous for leaks. The best ones we've found are Mamia nappies from Aldi (5 for 48, can't go wrong!), but the Lidl ones are very good too. We use disposables when we're likely to be out for hours with Sod Baby because I don't like carrying a pooey nappy around with me in the changing bag.

Hellfire
14-03-2011, 11:33 AM
We tried using them but they were too much of a faff, truth be told, because it was hard to keep them damp and they always went missing in the wash. They'll be dead easy to make though, ours were just fleecy felt squares basically.

As for disposable nappies, Pampers and Huggies are horrendous for leaks. The best ones we've found are Mamia nappies from Aldi (5 for 48, can't go wrong!), but the Lidl ones are very good too. We use disposables when we're likely to be out for hours with Sod Baby because I don't like carrying a pooey nappy around with me in the changing bag.

This, or ASDA own brand nappies are fantastic, can't fault them.

*Aphrodite*
14-03-2011, 03:48 PM
i looooooooooooooove my bamboo wipes :heart:

Melian
14-03-2011, 03:54 PM
Do any of you cloth users also use washable wipes? I'm thinking that it actually might be less hassle than disposable ones, cause at the moment I still need nappy bags and a trip to the bin for my pooey wipes, whereas with washable ones I could just chuck them in the wet bag with the nappy, and they'll all get washed together anyway.

But would you really want to carry smelly wet wipes around with you? I use wet wipes instead of toilet tissue and have just Googled reusable wet wipes. The outlay looks somewhat expensive.

Kaff
14-03-2011, 04:09 PM
But would you really want to carry smelly wet wipes around with you? I use wet wipes instead of toilet tissue and have just Googled reusable wet wipes. The outlay looks somewhat expensive.

Might as well if I'm carrying round a smelly nappy too! :p

I'll still have back up disposable nappies and wipes, so for long trips out and about we'd probably use them, but for day to day even the pooey ones don't smell too bad when they're in the wet bag, and you can rinse the bigger chunks off :yum:

I don't think they're that expensive, really. The Cheeky Wipes set is about 30. Branded baby wipes are anywhere up to 2.50 (although we buy Tesco value ones - 18p!), and in this house last about a week, so 30 will only keep you in branded disposable wipes for about 12 weeks.

That said, we're cheapskates in this house, so I won't be paying 30 at any rate. Make, make, make!

*Aphrodite*
15-03-2011, 03:59 PM
Also something else to add is you can also buy bum cleaner spray for those times when water just isnt enough. There are also recipes around to make your own. Some people pre-wet them with the bum cleaner and then put them in those disposable wipe tubs or tupperware tubs....just dont pre-wet too many otherwise they get pretty manky. AND home made bum cleaner tends to go off after a few days so premade ones are quite good if you dont go through loads.

Melian
12-05-2011, 09:49 AM
http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/City-council-aims-real-nappies-cost/article-3549688-detail/article.html