This just hope he was in a world of pain!

[Territt]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6929991.stm

[katralla]

el englisho territtio.

[Kiezo]

Judging by the picture further down the page, it looks like PC Ronald McDonald was first on the scene:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44036000/jpg/_44036596_burntoutcarpacred203.jpg

[Thunderstruck]

Rumour has it that while in hospital, he had been complaining that all they had given him to eat were neeps, tatties and haggis.

'What do you expect?', asked the nurse. 'This is the Burns unit!'



:lol:

[Yerascrote]

Rumour has it that while in hospital, he had been complaining that all they had given him to eat were neeps, tatties and haggis.

'What do you expect?', asked the nurse. 'This is the Burns unit!'



:lol:

:D

[Flashman's Ghost]

Rumour has it that while in hospital, he had been complaining that all they had given him to eat were neeps, tatties and haggis.

'What do you expect?', asked the nurse. 'This is the Burns unit!'



:lol:
:D

[katralla]

I dun get it. Please share the joke.

[Man Of Kent]

Think of Burns night, those are traditional scots foods.

Very witty.

[Man Of Kent]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6929991.stm

Personally I hope he was in a world of morphine. But then I care about fellow human beings which is what sets me apart from him.

And you.

[Bri-namite]

Yeah, very strange feeling when he died.

I'm sure he wanted to inflict a similar amount of pain on us, but that's not a good enough reason for me want him to die in the same way. When it was said he was too burnt and would die from an infection sooner or later then I cringed in pain for him.

I do think it's sad that he felt he needed to do what he tried to do, but we should be looking at why this was rather than reaching for the champagne corks on this one.

[Kiezo]

I do think it's sad that he felt he needed to do what he tried to do, but we should be looking at why this was rather than reaching for the champagne corks on this one.

We know why; all us corrupt, heaten, Western whitey's need to be purged.

To be honest, he made his choice. His right for any sympathy or care from fellow human beings was forfeit the minute he even considered this carrying out this act - he doesn't deserve it.

I'm not celebrating, but I sure as hell won't lose any sleep over it either.

[katralla]

Think of Burns night, those are traditional scots foods.

Very witty.

doh!

[Flashman's Ghost]

I wouldn't be celebrating. Violent death is never pretty. But then I'm not going to be crying into my pillow tonight either...

[Man Of Kent]

His right for any sympathy or care from fellow human beings was forfeit the minute he even considered this carrying out this act - he doesn't deserve it.

No it wasn't.

That's the point when he most deserved it, the point when doing so sends a powerful message to our foes which shows the even when someone committs an act like that we still treat them with dignity and respect. Doing otherwise just makes their point about how we treat those of different faith.

I'm not celebrating, but I sure as hell won't lose any sleep over it either.

Oh, I won't lose sleep. Doesn't mean that we should treat anyone wose than we would an animal.

[Bri-namite]

To be honest, he made his choice. His right for any sympathy or care from fellow human beings was forfeit the minute he even considered this carrying out this act - he doesn't deserve it.

I'm not celebrating, but I sure as hell won't lose any sleep over it either.

Don't disagree with that, but I winced when I heard about his injuries and still think it must have been a horrible way to die. They might not understand and appreciate empathy, but I do and for some reason I'd have preferred him to have died on the spot rather than have suffered that, even though it was self inflicted.

But no great loss to the world either way though. He was trying to kill me, you and our families. The fact that he didn't was down to sheer luck. so maybe it's worth considering how we'd have felt if he'd succeeded.

[Kiezo]

No it wasn't.

That's the point when he most deserved it, the point when doing so sends a powerful message to our foes which shows the even when someone committs an act like that we still treat them with dignity and respect. Doing otherwise just makes their point about how we treat those of different faith.

You'd need some crazy Jesus-like "turn the other cheek" shit going on to dismiss it that easily. It's not a Disney movie where the big bad dudes see the resolve of the caring in those they've been tit-for-tat with the whole movie and suddenly change their ways, I doubt they actually care. The entire nation celebrating may piss them off more, but the entire nation doing the opposite isn't going to make any of them stop.

And it's not about how we treat those about different faith, it's about how we treat those who try to burn our innocent civilians, who at that time of year would be primarily kids and families, alive.

[I'm With Stupid]

You'd need some crazy Jesus-like "turn the other cheek" shit going on to dismiss it that easily. It's not a Disney movie where the big bad dudes see the resolve of the caring in those they've been tit-for-tat with the whole movie and suddenly change their ways, I doubt they actually care. The entire nation celebrating may piss them off more, but the entire nation doing the opposite isn't going to make any of them stop.

Of course it will. You can never negotiate with religious fundamentalists, but you can effect the opinions of the religious moderates that sympathise with and cover for them. Religious nutjobs can't operate without the backing of the non-nutjob majority, even if it is only because of an even greater dislike for the UK/USA, fuelled by acts of aggression towards their home countries, talking about spreading freedom while keeping people in an offshore prison without a trial, or rejoicing in the death of someone then trying to hold the moral highground.

Take Palestine, for example. The majority of people might not like Hamas or support their ideas, they just hate Israel even more because of their aggressive actions. Without the support of these moderate people, Hamas wouldn't be able to operate. But Israel acting aggressively gives Hamas a reason to exist in the eyes of the moderate population.

[Whowhere]

It's a pity he never got to stand trial, at least the other one will have the opportunity to rot away, rather than dying in a peaceful morphine induced coma.

[Man Of Kent]

You'd need some crazy Jesus-like "turn the other cheek" shit going on to dismiss it that easily.

No you don't. You just need to see each human being as equal to all the others. I guess it comes with my job.

suddenly change their ways

It's not a case of changing their ways, it's a case of stopping the recruitment of moderates.

And it's not about how we treat those about different faith, it's about how we treat those who try to burn our innocent civilians, who at that time of year would be primarily kids and families, alive.

That's the attitude which pushes the moderates towards the extremists.

[Aladdin]

It's an extremely nasty way to go, even if he spent most of the time unconscious, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Like Flashman and MoK has said I won't be shedding any tears either though. Perhaps others might think twice about martydom when they consider such sensless and idiotic death.

[budda]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6929991.stm

Territt - if you are wishing him lots of pain, how exactly are you that different from him?

[SuzyCreamcheese]

Rumour has it that while in hospital, he had been complaining that all they had given him to eat were neeps, tatties and haggis.

'What do you expect?', asked the nurse. 'This is the Burns unit!'



:lol:

:lol:

[SuzyCreamcheese]

You'd need some crazy Jesus-like "turn the other cheek" shit going on to dismiss it that easily. It's not a Disney movie where the big bad dudes see the resolve of the caring in those they've been tit-for-tat with the whole movie and suddenly change their ways, I doubt they actually care. The entire nation celebrating may piss them off more, but the entire nation doing the opposite isn't going to make any of them stop.

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Yeah but you HAVE to have that attitude to work in the NHS. You have to treat eerybody the same even if they were the worlds most evil person. If you cant get your head round that then you dont/shouldnt work in healthcare. Its basic.

[Thunderstruck]

:lol:

Not like you to be laughing at something I've written Suzy...

[SuzyCreamcheese]

oh yeah....

:grump: not funny

[Thunderstruck]

oh yeah....

:grump: not funny

That's better :thumb:

[Man Of Kent]

Yeah but you HAVE to have that attitude to work in the NHS. You have to treat eerybody the same even if they were the worlds most evil person. If you cant get your head round that then you dont/shouldnt work in healthcare. Its basic.

:thumb:

Although TBH, the Doctors already see themselves more as "God-like" than Jesus-like ;)