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Man Of Kent
27-12-2006, 01:03 PM
So the appeal failed (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6211375.stm) then and Saddam is off to the gallow in the next 30 days.

Now I don't hold with the death penalty, it is wrong. Simple as.

However, I won't shed any tears and I have to say that with Pinochet and Hussein going in the space of a few weeks, things are looking up for the planet. Just Castro to go next...
Aladdin
27-12-2006, 02:20 PM
The world will be a better place without Saddam on it. However it is still wrong to execute him. If he were to die of natural causes I'd be popping bottles of champagne open. But I can't celebrate the murder of someone. Even of someone like Saddam.

Little surprise that the US government is celebrating the rejection of the appeal. There's nothing Uncle Sam likes better than a good old execution.
Teagan
27-12-2006, 03:04 PM
But I can't celebrate the murder of someone. Even of someone like Saddam.


Except Richard Littlejohn? :lol:

He's a Grade-A cunt. He should be dropped in a vat of sulphuric acid and his remains sent into deep space so his filthy molecules don't pollute the Earth in any shape or form.
Man Of Kent
27-12-2006, 04:15 PM
Except Richard Littlejohn? :lol:

That's not murder. That's pest control. :p
Teagan
27-12-2006, 04:17 PM
:lol: So true! :thumb:
HIT
29-12-2006, 10:46 AM
Six am news, the BBC said there's a chance that he could have already have been hanged at dawn.
RubberSkin
29-12-2006, 10:53 AM
I was watching BBC Breakfast and they kept flashing up 'Saddam's effects have been passed to his lawyer' ???
Aladdin
29-12-2006, 11:01 AM
There is no hope for that country.
Butterflykisses
29-12-2006, 12:01 PM
I was watching BBC Breakfast and they kept flashing up 'Saddam's effects have been passed to his lawyer' ???

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1979830,00.html

"A senior justice ministry official told Reuters that Saddam would not be executed until January 26 at the earliest, 30 days after the rejection of his appeal this week."
Butterflykisses
29-12-2006, 12:02 PM
I would LOVE to know what's going through his head right now. What do you think about when you know you only have a month or so to live?
HIT
29-12-2006, 12:57 PM
I would LOVE to know what's going through his head right now. What do you think about when you know you only have a month or so to live?
Well it may only be 24hrs now. I guess hes feeling the same fear others did when they were executed by him. I couldn't imagine it tbh.
Yerascrote
29-12-2006, 03:35 PM
I would LOVE to know what's going through his head right now. What do you think about when you know you only have a month or so to live?

He's probably thinking that he'll be martyred.
Namaste
29-12-2006, 05:12 PM
The world will be a better place without Saddam on it. However it is still wrong to execute him. If he were to die of natural causes I'd be popping bottles of champagne open. But I can't celebrate the murder of someone. Even of someone like Saddam.

Little surprise that the US government is celebrating the rejection of the appeal. There's nothing Uncle Sam likes better than a good old execution.
:yes: You can't accuse somebody of murder then murder yourself.
Man Of Kent
29-12-2006, 08:00 PM
He's probably thinking that he'll be martyred.

:yes:

Man lives in a fantasy world and doesn't realise that the adulation from those huge crowds in the past was because of fear. I don't dispute for a minute the claims that hundreds of Iraqis have applied to be his executioner.
Flashman's Ghost
29-12-2006, 08:59 PM
So the [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/However, I won't shed any tears and I have to say that with Pinochet and Hussein going in the space of a few weeks, things are looking up for the planet. Just Castro to go next...

And Mengistu

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6175201.stm

Though given old Slobo met his maker 2006 was a bad year for despots http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4819158.stm
Dear Wendy
30-12-2006, 03:26 AM
It's happened...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6218485.stm
Uncle Joe
30-12-2006, 03:57 AM
Indeed. Piochet is allowed to go to his grave unpunished, but Saddam is made a martyr, against all sanity.
Thunderstruck
30-12-2006, 09:57 AM
Going, going, gone.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6218485.stm
Aladdin
30-12-2006, 10:32 AM
Well, at least Pinochet will no longer be the New Guy at the special bastard pit in Hell.

I eagerly await Disillusioned's post "R.I.P"
Kermit
30-12-2006, 12:19 PM
The only thing I don't get is why the fuck they didn't just drop a grenade down his hole.

Now he's gone with his head held high, with all the attention he adores, with the martyrdom that he wanted. That's why he didn't have a hood.

I'm not sad.
I'm With Stupid
30-12-2006, 12:27 PM
I'm just sad that the first real action of the new "free" Iraq is to murder someone. Great sign of progress that is. Even if it is Saddam.
seeker
30-12-2006, 12:29 PM
Man lives in a fantasy world.

I agree.

(Well, he did before he was murdered).

BUT he wasn`t alone.
HIT
30-12-2006, 12:42 PM
The only thing I don't get is why the fuck they didn't just drop a grenade down his hole.

Now he's gone with his head held high, with all the attention he adores, with the martyrdom that he wanted. That's why he didn't have a hood.

I'm not sad.
I heard he had to be dragged from his cell at first, I wouldnt call that martyrdom.
Aladdin
30-12-2006, 12:58 PM
Maybe only when his time was up did the fucker begin to comprehend the sanctity of human life.

No doubt those who cheer and congratualate the Iraqis for this execution will think differently when their own time is up and they lay on their deathbed.
Kermit
30-12-2006, 01:01 PM
I don't cheer, any death is sad, but some deaths are sadder than others.

I don't think that the life of murderers and rapists is sacrosanct, and I'm not going to shed a single tear about this man going to his death.
Aladdin
30-12-2006, 01:23 PM
Nor will I, but executing him is still wrong and morally repugnant.

It is also counterproductive. As you as others have pointed out it's making a martyr out of him- and depriving him of a lifetime in a jail cell, which would have been a far worse punishment for him.
Kermit
30-12-2006, 02:05 PM
Nor will I, but executing him is still wrong and morally repugnant.

Now I don't, I just hope it hurt.

But it is counterproductive.
I'm With Stupid
30-12-2006, 02:10 PM
It is also counterproductive. As you as others have pointed out it's making a martyr out of him- and depriving him of a lifetime in a jail cell, which would have been a far worse punishment for him.
Not to mention all the crimes that will now go unanswered.
Man Of Kent
30-12-2006, 07:21 PM
Not to mention all the crimes that will now go unanswered.

How could he answer for any, when he didn't think that what he did was wrong?

The bubbly will be open in the MoK household for the passing of dictators in 2006, here's looking forward to a great 2007 too.

Doesn't make the death penalty right though. If it is a crime against humanity to kill your own citizens then the PM of Iraq has just committed another act...
I'm With Stupid
30-12-2006, 07:47 PM
How could he answer for any, when he didn't think that what he did was wrong?
Because victims of crime and their families tend to like to see the criminal confronted with the crimes they've committed and tried for them.
Man Of Kent
30-12-2006, 07:55 PM
Because victims of crime and their families tend to like to see the criminal confronted with the crimes they've committed and tried for them.

Ah, the illusion of justice... ;)

They know he's guilty, we know he's guilty. Everything else that happened, or would have happened, was a charade. Like Kermit said, a grenade in the bunker would have been much more productive.
Butterflykisses
31-12-2006, 07:02 PM
It's a much bigger issue than 'he was guilty of crimes, should he or should he not have been killed". It's the fact that the West thinks itself superior enough to kill him. We had no right to go into Iraq in the first place; its 'humanitarian' grounds were a crock, and this is just another (sick) way of Bush and Blair proving that they 'really honestly do care' about humanitarian issues. He was tried in an Iraqi court in the loosest sense of the word. Maybe the jurors were Iraqi but it was the Americans who really took him to trial.

What next - do we have the right to overstep state sovereignty in every country where there are human rights abuses and kill everyone we think is behaving badly?
Yerascrote
31-12-2006, 07:16 PM
What next - do we have the right to overstep state sovereignty in every country where there are human rights abuses and kill everyone we think is behaving badly?

You say it like it's a new phenomenon.