Does ANYONE care how Diana died? [Archive]

Teagan

14-12-2006, 01:11 PM

For the love of God, she died in a car crash, she wasnt a saint, it wasnt murder, MOSAD didnt do it - let it fucking rest.

Did you hear Mohammed Al Fayed on the radio this morning? The dippy bastard is STILL convinced that his son was murdered and will not accept anything else. He also claimed that he and Dodi were the closest people to Diana - closer than her friends and family even. Why the arse hasn't been deported ages ago, I just don't know (surely being whacko is enough reason to deport someone?). :confused:

Aladdin

14-12-2006, 01:15 PM

*Looks forward (not) to the Daily Express front page tomorrow* :rolleyes:

Kermit

14-12-2006, 01:16 PM

Everyone knows it was Interflora wot dun it.

I didn't care 10 years ago- I thought she was a lying, conniving bow-legged tart when she was alive, and I still do now.

Renzo

14-12-2006, 01:16 PM

I really don't give a fuck. It pisses me off that theres so much interest in it. It was ten years ago! GET OVER IT!

Flashman's Ghost

14-12-2006, 01:26 PM

Well I probably would care if it was MI6 - I'd have problems with them bumping off people that the Duke of Edinburgh found inconvinient.

That said I've always been off the view that she died because she wasn't wearing a seatbelt, and was in a car which was travelling to fast driven by someone who was over the limit.

Thunderstruck

14-12-2006, 01:29 PM

I don't honestly care.

She was no Saint. She was an adulterer and very overrated.

budda

14-12-2006, 01:36 PM

*Looks forward (not) to the Daily Express front page tomorrow* :rolleyes:

I keep an eye out for the Express on the Tube now and over the last couple of weeks Diana has been their front page at least twice.

I'm With Stupid

14-12-2006, 01:52 PM

That said I've always been off the view that she died because she wasn't wearing a seatbelt, and was in a car which was travelling to fast driven by someone who was over the limit.
If only they'd had a speed camera, eh? :p

I'm With Stupid

14-12-2006, 01:54 PM

*Looks forward (not) to the Daily Express front page tomorrow* :rolleyes:
"Youth Charity yobbo's disrespect Diana!" complete with a quotes from Kermit Renzo and Budda.

budda

14-12-2006, 02:02 PM

"Youth Charity yobbo's disrespect Diana!" complete with a quotes from Kermit Renzo and Budda.

If they actually did that I'd be one of the happiest people alive. I still feel really envious of Chris Morris with his Sun headline 'Sickest TV programme ever' front page.

Namaste

14-12-2006, 02:14 PM

Shouldn't we be investing more time in finding out why Charles De Menezes(spl) was murdered?

I'm sure that would put a lot of people's minds at rest and bring justice to his family.

Kermit

14-12-2006, 02:17 PM

-']Shouldn't we be investing more time in finding out why Charles De Menezes(spl) was murdered?

No, because he was a filthy wop who deserved it!

HIT

14-12-2006, 02:18 PM

For the love of God, she died in a car crash, she wasnt a saint, it wasnt murder, MOSAD didnt do it - let it fucking rest.
Its horriable for William and Harry having to hear it everyday.

budda

14-12-2006, 02:22 PM

No, because he was a filthy wop who deserved it!

It was his 'Mongolian eyes' which did for him.

YouCrazyDiamond

14-12-2006, 07:29 PM

I thought she was a lying, conniving bow-legged tart when she was alive, and I still do now.

Nicely put. :D

Although I've found that pointing out she was a whore seems to upset some people.

Sofie

14-12-2006, 07:42 PM

*Wonders if an investiagtion lik this would ever happen with someone who was just a random member of public*

And no, I don't care about this. It was a car crash.

RubberSkin

14-12-2006, 08:16 PM

I care about it, as in was she bumped off or was it just another drink/drive accident. I've always believed it was an accident.

Deep Fathom

14-12-2006, 08:26 PM

Even if it was a murder I wouldn't care that much. :rolleyes: It's happened before, it was horrible and now let's get on with our lives kplzthx!

katralla

14-12-2006, 08:48 PM

Even if it was a murder I wouldn't care that much. :rolleyes: It's happened before, it was horrible and now let's get on with our lives kplzthx!
Who? What? Whatever!

Ballerina

14-12-2006, 09:35 PM

It happened 10 years ago....it was an accident then and is still an accident now. Let it rest.

CheeseOnToast

15-12-2006, 12:26 AM

Didn't care then, don't care now..

katralla

15-12-2006, 12:39 AM

^^ that's what I meant too. The quote thing wa san accident

Teh_Gerbil

15-12-2006, 03:03 AM

For the love of God, she died in a car crash, she wasnt a saint, it wasnt murder, MOSAD didnt do it - let it fucking rest.

Word.

I couldn't give a shit - she was an attention seaking media whore - her driver was drunk - she didn't wear a seatbelt - her own fucking fault.

Get over it. She slept around, she didn't care for her safety, she was an attention seeker - who cares?

katralla

15-12-2006, 03:34 AM

did she sleep around? I only know of tweo blokes she was fucking, and that's almost virginal.

CheeseOnToast

15-12-2006, 03:50 AM

did she sleep around? I only know of tweo blokes she was fucking, and that's almost virginal.

I agree?

Teh_Gerbil

15-12-2006, 04:20 AM

Apparently - James Hewitt, James Gilbey, Oliver Hoare, Will Carling, Hasnat Khan, and Al Fayed.

How many are true we will never know now she is dead- like JFK, she is now some sort of untouchable public icon.

Who knows. And TBH, who honestly cares? She is dead, get over it.

katralla

15-12-2006, 04:30 AM

including charles thats' oly 7, hardly slut of the century...

Teh_Gerbil

15-12-2006, 04:40 AM

including charles thats' oly 7, hardly slut of the century...

Well duh.

But I am fed up of this perfect image she has. She cheated, so did Charles, but he didn't to that scale (if it is true, and not media hype, but I'd like to know who Harry's father is lol).

It'd take ALOT of effort to be slut of the century. But she isn't a saint, she is very much a sinner, she went off doing this and that for attention all the time. "Oh look, im clearing mines" etc. God knows what effect that;d have on the boys - the thought your mum might not come home because she got blown up by a mine or shot by guerillas.

CheeseOnToast

15-12-2006, 04:43 AM

including charles thats' oly 7, hardly slut of the century...

I agree again

Teh_Gerbil

15-12-2006, 05:11 AM

Fuck it.

If you think cheating on your Husband with 7 people is fine, carry on.

Kermit

15-12-2006, 08:56 AM

But it was OK for her to shag half of London (you forgot Wayne Sleep in that) because Charles is a bastard!

HIT

15-12-2006, 09:01 AM

Has anyone got any proof she slept with all these men? Or is it accusations like she was bumped off?

And Charles never cheated on her with Camilla?

Teagan

15-12-2006, 09:12 AM

... you forgot Wayne Sleep ...

Wayne Sleep? :lol: Really? No, surely not! He's bats for the other side!

Kermit

15-12-2006, 09:21 AM

I know he does;)

VinylVicky

15-12-2006, 09:26 AM

The thing is, Charles has always been in love with Camilla, that must be hard. These other seem to be a way of looking for effection and trying to cause hurt like she felt.

Teagan

15-12-2006, 09:59 AM

Didn't care then, don't care now..

I would be sorry for anyone that died in an accident like that ... so on a human level, I care. But that she was a royal makes it any sadder? Then I agree. It is immaterial.

Flashman's Ghost

15-12-2006, 10:22 AM

My God woman's marriage is breaking down and she has a few affairs and then a few medium-long term relationships afterwards. Hardly a 'whore'

I don't think the woman was a saint of the magnitude of Madame Theresa, but she wasn't some sort of evil anti-christ either

kangoo

15-12-2006, 11:17 AM

Fuck it.

If you think cheating on your Husband with 7 people is fine, carry on.

Its not but
1. Do you know every circumstance of her married life? No. So how can you possibly comment on what type of person she is. Unless you all believe what you hear in the media :rolleyes: Which I highly doubt
2. That doesn't mean either she deserved to die or its any less sad that she died because of it which is what a lot of people are implying

If your best friend came to you with a problem about her married life and she was cheating would you say ah I don't care you're evil get killed in a car crash and I wouldn't care because that's what you deserve. Like her or not she's still a person

Also I think you'll find suspected murder cases often run for 10, 20, 30 years. This one just happens to be highly publicised. I'm not saying I agree with it all, the whole Diana thing did go on a bit at the time and I'm not particularly bothered whether she was murdered or not because tbh it doesn't affect me. I just think people are very quick to slate off people just because they're public figures. If someone down your street did the same things you'd probably have a 5 minute :o over a coffee and then you wouldn't care less.

Kermit

15-12-2006, 11:21 AM

2. That doesn't mean either she deserved to die or its any less sad that she died because of it which is what a lot of people are implying

It's no more sad than any other divorced mother of two dying in a road traffic accident. Where's Elton John and his charity records for them, eh?

kangoo

15-12-2006, 11:26 AM

Yeah I agree with that! It did get all a bit OTT. What I'm saying is some people are saying she's evil and cheating therefore she deserved to die, or that its not sad that she died. Which I think is horrible, she's still a person and somebodys daughter and somebody's mum. I don't like all the crap and uber-publicity hype but its still sad that she died. Its sad when anybody dies

HIT

15-12-2006, 11:31 AM

It's no more sad than any other divorced mother of two dying in a road traffic accident. Where's Elton John and his charity records for them, eh?
You seem to forget she done alot for charity. And also Elton was a close friend of hers.

Aladdin

15-12-2006, 01:46 PM

Blagsta

15-12-2006, 04:16 PM

There's some shameful misogyny on this thread.

Kermit

15-12-2006, 04:22 PM

Is there? She was a bow-legged slut.

I'd have said the same about him if he'd cheated on his wife with seven different people.

Blagsta

15-12-2006, 04:24 PM

Is there? She was a bow-legged slut..

Nice.

smitherz

15-12-2006, 04:29 PM

Cherrypie2882

15-12-2006, 04:29 PM

I agree that it should be laid to rest as it was a long time ago but there is no need to bad mouth Diana, she did a lot of good and seemed genuine and the way she died was horrible.

Also how the hell would you know if she had cheated seven times, were you there?

At the end of the day no family is perfect, Royal or not.

Blagsta

15-12-2006, 04:31 PM

Personally I couldn't give a shit about the royal family or any other rich bloated parasites. However, the misognyny here leaves a bad taste. From people who should know better too. :(

kangoo

15-12-2006, 04:53 PM

Exactly, of course she wasnt perfect - who is? Some people seem to have some serious issues here, jesus does it bother you THAT much to be calling her a slut and a whore and a "lying, conniving bow-legged tart". She's dead ffs have a bit of respect. I think theres plenty more people in the world more deserving of those horrible insults than Diana. Yes it all got blown out of proportion, yes it should have been laid to rest but seriously get over it. She cheated, yes. Its not right but it happened, its not the end of the world. If I was married to prince charles I wouldn't trust my eyes not to wander!

Bullseye

15-12-2006, 05:04 PM

She didnt sleep around that much while married, she only cheated a couple a few times and Charles did have his mistress who was the woman he really loved all along anyway. She was Not a saint, she was Not special, she was Not perfect, and even to the people who think she Was special and saintly and better then anyone else, that shouldnt mean she was invulnerable to all things not orchaestrated by a special assassin squad. It was a car accident, because paparzi were chasing her, her driver was drunk and on medication and another car clipped her merc...it is just that simple so Who gives a toss?

i didnt even care she was dead when it first happened back in 1997, so i am hardly like to care now so many years later.

Cherrypie2882

15-12-2006, 05:27 PM

Everyone knows it was Interflora wot dun it.

I didn't care 10 years ago- I thought she was a lying, conniving bow-legged tart when she was alive, and I still do now.

Slightly immature eh Kermit.........:p

sophia

15-12-2006, 05:42 PM

RubberSkin

15-12-2006, 05:52 PM

she did a lot of good

Indeed. On a personal level it's thanks to people like her, speaking to, hugging, kissing and just holding the hands of people with HIV/AIDS that helped more people to realise it wasn't this terrible plague you could catch off toilets seats and cutlery.

Flashman's Ghost

15-12-2006, 06:01 PM

Indeed. On a personal level it's thanks to people like her, speaking to, hugging, kissing and just holding the hands of people with HIV/AIDS that helped more people to realise it wasn't this terrible plague you could catch off toilets seats and cutlery.

And don't forget the land mines campaigns. Now I've mixed views on there use, but she did more to help stop them being randomly spread around and then dealt with than her critics who moan that she slept with Will Carling.

Teagan

15-12-2006, 06:11 PM

I have always been interested in how Diana died. I have strong views on it and it was deffinatley murder, however i haven't got the time and can't be arsed to explain right now, would take me like an hour to type up.

In that case, we can say that it was DEFINITELY not murder then. All of the conspiracy theories are debunked now and the only mystery is the white car in the tunnel. But I suspect that the French are keeping the innocent person involved incognito - most people would not like it to be generally known that their car had inadvertently been involved in the death of the most famous face on earth.

Aladdin

15-12-2006, 07:10 PM

There's some shameful misogyny on this thread.No kidding.

Kermit

15-12-2006, 07:55 PM

Isn't the use of the word slut like this essentially misogynistic?

Not really. I'd say the same about a bloke.

Abusive? Yes. Woman-hating? No.

I couldn't stand the creature.

Blagsta

15-12-2006, 08:06 PM

Not really. I'd say the same about a bloke.

No you wouldn't. You wouldn't use terms like "bow legged slut", which is a gender specific term. Put it into social context Kermy.

Abusive? Yes. Woman-hating? No.

It is woman hating. Think about it.

I couldn't stand the creature.

There you go, dehumanising, objectifying. Shame on you.

Teh_Gerbil

16-12-2006, 04:15 AM

She didn't cheat on her husband with 7 men incidentally. They separated before she slept with some of those men.

But in any case it doesn't matter. I didn't have any time for the woman. Like others have said she was an attention-seeking media whore (that disgracefully orchestrated photoshoot when she watched her doctor friend perform an operation on someone, her big eyes all full of make up comes to mind). But I don't think we should be accusing her of being a 'whore' or a 'tart'. If this was a Prince instead of a Princess we'd be talking about a 'ladies man' and some would even regard his womanasing with admiration. But since it's a woman having the affairs, she must be whore.

Not on.

I didn't say she was a whore, evil, or meant to die.

I am just fed up of everyone seeming to not accept she can be criticised for some reason. She was far from this "perfect princess" that some portrayed her as.

I would rather she was alive, losing a mother must be terrible for the Princes, especially when the motherfucking media piss them of every few months by bringing it up again. She can't jusr rest in peace.... no... she was some sort of celebrity, so she can't.

Plus, is she was alive, we would have this story dominating the news all the time. "Some British soldiers are dead in Iraq. More on that later - now - OMG DIANA AGAIN LOL! STORY THAT WONT GO AWAY!"

RedOfTheRose

16-12-2006, 12:27 PM

Didnt care then, dont care now. Its all OTT

Aladdin

16-12-2006, 01:04 PM

I didn't say she was a whore, evil, or meant to die.

I am just fed up of everyone seeming to not accept she can be criticised for some reason. She was far from this "perfect princess" that some portrayed her as.

I would rather she was alive, losing a mother must be terrible for the Princes, especially when the motherfucking media piss them of every few months by bringing it up again. She can't jusr rest in peace.... no... she was some sort of celebrity, so she can't.

Plus, is she was alive, we would have this story dominating the news all the time. "Some British soldiers are dead in Iraq. More on that later - now - OMG DIANA AGAIN LOL! STORY THAT WONT GO AWAY!" It wasn't particularly directed at you. Simply at the comments regarding her sexual activity.

I didn't have any time for the woman myself. But I really couldn't give a fuck if she had regular 300 men-strong bukkake sessions. Her private life, her business. She should be criticised, but for the right reasons.

And the tabloid press should of course give it a fucking rest as well. They are not without fault for her death, and even 24 hours before she died and was elevated to sainthood, our righteous press was savaging her alive.

Richard Desmond with his indescribably boring Daily Express front pages for the last few years should be simply put up against a wall and shot.

otter

16-12-2006, 07:41 PM

not reading the entire thread.
i thought at the time she died that some of the reactions from people were totally OTT. i don't believe there is any conspiracy behind it. and i think she should be allowed to RIP tbh.

Lucy Loves Kealey

16-12-2006, 07:46 PM

otter

16-12-2006, 07:51 PM

I think its awful how the press cant let tradagys like Diana's death lie to rest. I watched that programme the other night and just wonder if people believe that some times terrible things happen and there is no explantion for it...
erm. yeah. but the media will only print stories that sell. people want to hear about it, so the media prints it / broadcasts it.
people do need to move on, its quite pathetic really.

katralla

17-12-2006, 11:49 PM

I find it odd that some of you refer to sleeping with a man other than her husband as 'cheating'. What is 'cheating' about it, marriage has nowt to do with monogomy does it? But then, I haven't read a marriage document myself so, what do I know?

clementine_the_tangerine

18-12-2006, 12:05 AM

What has cheating got to do with her death? Her private life is open to all sorts of rumours. I don't have an opinion, because I didn't actually know her. Yes I found her death pretty sad at the time and I feel bad for William and Harry. Yeah she didn't wear a seatbelt but yknow it seems a bit harsh to say that she 'deserved it'.

Of course it's widely publicised. She was a princess. I don't see the point in getting up in arms over it because Elton John didn't croon over some unknown OAP that decided to pop her clogs. Death is sad whoever it is. But you have to expect the media to over report it because she was a bit of a celeb. It's what the media always will do and seems pointless to me getting offended by it.

For the record, I gave her flowers as a young un and she patted my head. I havent washed my hair since.

bluewisdom

18-12-2006, 03:41 AM

There's some shameful misogyny on this thread.And coming from where I wouldn't expect it tbh.

Man Of Kent

18-12-2006, 04:13 PM

You wouldn't use terms like "bow legged slut", which is a gender specific term.

"Bow legged" maybe not, but I often refer to men as tarts or sluts...

Blagsta

18-12-2006, 04:37 PM

"Bow legged" maybe not, but I often refer to men as tarts or sluts...

Doesn't have quite the same connotations though does it?

Man Of Kent

18-12-2006, 04:42 PM

Yeah it does, or at least it can do.

I don't dispute the point that you are trying to make here, and there are still difference approaches taken with women and men who are promiscuous, but I would have latched onto the point about Charles' extra/pre/post-martial actvities and wonder why no-one seems to be concerned about him. Certainly there is rumour that there weren't just three people in the marriage...

Fairy

18-12-2006, 07:01 PM

The Royal family killed her off and yeah I am sick of seeing her in the papers everyday.

Blagsta

18-12-2006, 07:22 PM

Yeah it does, or at least it can do.

Bollocks. Men are not denigrated in the same way that women are for sleeping around.

Kermit

18-12-2006, 07:40 PM

Are we talking generally or by me?

If the former then I'd agree, the latter and I wouldn't...

HIT

18-12-2006, 08:23 PM

Bollocks. Men are not denigrated in the same way that women are for sleeping around.
I agree, if a man gets called a slut it usually gives them an ego boost or something to be proud of, but in most cases women dont like to be called sluts even if they do come across that way.

seeker

19-12-2006, 07:13 PM

Well I probably would care if it was MI6 - I'd have problems with them bumping off people that the Duke of Edinburgh found inconvinient.

Is that the only criteria you would have to criticise MI6 assassinations ?

Their ex-employee Tomlinson has made a number of claims over the years and I believe he gave an interview for this enquiry.

He`s easily dismissed as the disgruntled ex-employee but according to his blog (which has been taken down in the past) some unsavoury incidents have happened to him. Co-incidence ?

seeker

19-12-2006, 07:18 PM

-']Shouldn't we be investing more time in finding out why Charles De Menezes(spl) was murdered?

I'm sure that would put a lot of people's minds at rest and bring justice to his family.

It looks like it has already been done.

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article2081666.ece

Another inquiry, another nice earner for the inquirer. (Lord wots-his-name)